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Not wearing a mask is the same as coughing in public without covering your mouth. It's inconsiderate of others as well as just plain rude. No one has a "right", or the "freedom" to increase the risk to others.
 

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For those of you that are so “pro mask” ... what would you ultimately like to happen in regards to this topic?

A national order/law that masks must be worn ?
 

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Here’s an idea

All who are self imprisoned and wearing masks as a courtesy should stay home for 2 weeks while all who don’t are allowed to do business as usual and open the World back up

By the end of that period. All of us who ran around maskless should be dead and then the World will be yours, free of rebels and us covid carrying thugs

That’s basically what many are saying will happen anyway.

I totally understand those who are at risk need to take precautions and they should. Just like the person in a wheelchair would around stairs. Or the person who has difficulty walking should when crossing a highway

At some point this has to be the responsibility of the one who is concerned. Not everyone else in the entire world

I have concerns wearing a mask and whether it helps or whether the covid is really what they say and so do a lot of others and that number is rapidly growing
At first people took the time off and accepted it
Now? They are going broke. Going to lose their homes. May not have a job. Losing what little many have had and as we approach that point for the majority then it will be the majority that will say “ I don’t give a damn “
 
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Here’s an idea

All who are self imprisoned and wearing masks as a courtesy should stay home for 2 weeks while all who don’t are allowed to do business as usual and open the World back up

By the end of that period. All of us who ran around maskless should be dead and then the World will be yours, free of rebels and us covid carrying thugs

That’s basically what many are saying will happen anyway.

I totally understand those who are at risk need to take precautions and they should. Just like the person in a wheelchair would around stairs. Or the person who has difficulty walking should when crossing a highway

At some point this has to be the responsibility of the one who is concerned. Not everyone else in the entire world

I have concerns wearing a mask and wether it helps or wether the covid is really what they say and so do a lot of others and that number is rapidly growing
At first people took the time off and accepted it
Now? They are going broke. Going to lose their homes. May not have a job. Losing what little many have had and as we approach that point for the majority then it will be the majority that will say “ I don’t give a damn “
A mask doesn’t stop people from working, moving about and doing what they need to. It is a precaution, that will give those who have higher risk better protection from others wearing them so they don’t need to be locked in their homes and also can do what they need to.
 

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Here’s an idea

All who are self imprisoned and wearing masks as a courtesy should stay home for 2 weeks while all who don’t are allowed to do business as usual and open the World back up

By the end of that period. All of us who ran around maskless should be dead and then the World will be yours, free of rebels and us covid carrying thugs

That’s basically what many are saying will happen anyway.

I totally understand those who are at risk need to take precautions and they should. Just like the person in a wheelchair would around stairs. Or the person who has difficulty walking should when crossing a highway

At some point this has to be the responsibility of the one who is concerned. Not everyone else in the entire world

I have concerns wearing a mask and wether it helps or wether the covid is really what they say and so do a lot of others and that number is rapidly growing
At first people took the time off and accepted it
Now? They are going broke. Going to lose their homes. May not have a job. Losing what little many have had and as we approach that point for the majority then it will be the majority that will say “ I don’t give a damn “


your "idea" may have a few flaws
whether it's sarcasm or not . ;) :poop:
 
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For those of you that are so “pro mask” ... what would you ultimately like to happen in regards to this topic?

A national order/law that masks must be worn ?

In most places there is no "order" or "law" requiring a mask but some businesses require it
And I seriously doubt there will be a "national law" requiring wearing masks - just look at our national leader(s) ;)
 

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At some point this has to be the responsibility of the one who is concerned. Not everyone else in the entire world

I have concerns wearing a mask and wether it helps or wether the covid is really what they say and so do a lot of others and that number is rapidly growing ...

Seriously??

I am not sure why you are unable to digest covid info, but this growing number you refer to has nothing to do with factual information about your droplets affecting other people.

How do you think this virus made it around the world, if not person to person spread? Or, do you think there is no contagious illness impacting the world and killing people? That it is some conspiracy perpetrated in country after country?
 

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For those of you that are so “pro mask” ... what would you ultimately like to happen in regards to this topic?

A national order/law that masks must be worn ?
We don't need a law, I wouldn't be in favor of wasting time on that. What I would like to see happen is people care about other people and keep their fluids to themselves voluntarily.
 

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your "idea" may have a few flaws
whether it's sarcasm or not . ;) :poop:

Omg Brett!!

You are a lifesaver
Why my phone switched my spelling or I actually misspelled a word is unclear

But for you to comment on it shows how wonderful you are and any friends of yours must be honored to be worthy of being part of your circle

Haha haha
 

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Omg Brett!!

You are a lifesaver
Why my phone switched my spelling or I actually misspelled a word is unclear

But for you to comment on it shows how wonderful you are and any friends of yours must be honored to be worthy of being part of your circle

Haha haha

U R welcome my friend - just not sure what's sarcasm or not

(still believe in those faked moon landings ? ;) )
 

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At some point this has to be the responsibility of the one who is concerned. Not everyone else in the entire world

I have concerns wearing a mask and wether it helps or wether the covid is really what they say and so do a lot of others and that number is rapidly growing ...

Seriously??

I am not sure why you are unable to digest covid info, but this growing number you refer to has nothing to do with factual information about your droplets affecting other people.

How do you think this virus made it around the world, if not person to person spread? Or, do you think there is no contagious illness impacting the world and killing people? That it is some conspiracy perpetrated in country after country?

Did you wear a mask last year when you had the flu?
Nope
You must not care either

I have watched people, especially old people spew droplets on others and not give a damn for years

You can argue that this is worse. Says who? Media. Drs. Scientists?
For everyone that says it’s worse there is one professional who says it isn’t
Why is your news feed right and mine wrong?

We have been told not to believe everything you hear but with this you people can’t get enough of it
Cut your facts in half. Then reassess your life

If you still want to wear a mask. Then please do but if I don’t and you see me then stay away like 50’.
That’s just as easy and considerate as me wearing a mask right?
 

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Yesterday, I went my the frozen yogurt shop. We do have mandatory mask wearing in our county. There were a couple older males who were in line behind me, not wearing masks and talking (they didn't arrive together). I thought about this thread and how that was the first time I noticed only males not wearing masks. Usually, basically everyone, male and female, are not wearing masks in public. Anyhow, the part that grossed me out was that each one of them did a big spit on the ground. Why do so many men need to spit on the ground? I feel like I always see that. And, FWIW, it has grossed me out my entire life. I used to dry heave from seeing stuff like that when I was younger.
 

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In most places there is no "order" or "law" requiring a mask but some businesses require it
And I seriously doubt there will be a "national law" requiring wearing masks - just look at our national leader(s) ;)
Leaning a bit political?
 

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....You can argue that this is worse. Says who? Media. Drs. Scientists?

The WHO has determined this to be a global pandemic. If you don't believe them either, ok.
 

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Just an update on my original post. I mentioned a farm retail store (carrying lots of other stuff from tools to clothing, often referred to locally as the man's mall) and a building supply center. As mentioned, the building supply center decided to impose a policy requiring all customers to wear masks. The farm retail store did not.

I had to go to both yesterday. Normally they do about the same amount of business. The building supply center was totally packed. I would say that the farm retail center had about three fourths the usual number of customers.
 

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For those of you that are so “pro mask” ... what would you ultimately like to happen in regards to this topic?

A national order/law that masks must be worn ?
The situation is not all that new. I have been at many retail stores during a normal flu season when the clerk would be sneezing into his or her hand and then handling my stuff. At the same time, I knew that the clerk needed the job and was not afforded any sick leave. Not a good situation.

A law requiring face masks. Of course not. But to be quite honest, if someone were to make light of the health risks of the situation and the lack of sanitation, I would not be happy. JMHO
 

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Did you wear a mask last year when you had the flu?
Ah yes, good ol' whataboutism.

There is a reasonably effective flu vaccine but little to no natural immunity to C19. C19's R0 is higher than influenza's. C19's case fatality rate is higher than influenza's. And, while we still don't really know, there is some mounting anecodotal evidence that the lingering effects of C19 in people who "recover" can be serious.

In other words: More people are vulnerable, it spreads faster, it kills more effectively, and may also do more collateral damage.

But sure, keep on making pointless comparisons in a disingenuous way to try to feel better about the fact that, as far as I am concerned, you won't do something that is minimally inconvenient in return for potentially protecting others around you. While you do that, welcome to my ignore list.

And, to your original question: I did not wear a mask, but I did get a flu shot. I did not do that for me alone, but also to help protect others who for one reason or another can't or won't get the vaccine.
 

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I resist wearing a mask. If I am going to be in close proximity to someone (example getting my hair cut, visits to my Doctor, etc), I will. Otherwise I try to stay 10' away form others and will only get on empty elevators. I'm more stubborn than practical but that is what I do...

George
 
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Most of the mask wearers in my area are seniors, or at least gray-haired ( since I can’t see faces). I’m a “pre-senior” and I wear a mask.
 

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Whether you support the wearing of Masks or not if it is a store policy you should comply without argument or shop elsewhere. But people whom are attacking store employees for being reminded that a Mask is required to shop is way over the top. They need to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extend of the law. Instead of attacking an employee for doing her job just leave.
 

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I resist wearing a mask. If I am going to be in close proximity to someone (example getting my hair cut), I will. Otherwise I try to stay 10' away form others and will only get on empty elevators. I'm more stubborn than practical but that is what I do...

George

You might want to go a little longer without a haircut George, we wont call you a hippie. :)




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I also come across people who do about 1/2 of what they should be doing such as plexiglass at the register and then hand me change with physical contact

Wait, you are one of those that still insist on using filthy paper money and dirty coins?

Waiting for someone to dig coins out of a purse or pocket at the checkout is more annoying that not wearing a mask.

Google or Apple Pay on your phone, just wave it near the card reader, and you get bonus points or cash back for using credit cards.


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Thought: Is there a component of mysophobia going on here in regards to reactions to C19, particularly in regards to advocating for mask usage?
 

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Thought: Is there a component of mysophobia going on here in regards to reactions to C19, particularly in regards to advocating for mask usage?
Sounds like a reasonably scientific explanation. ;)
 

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There was a time during the 1800s when not taking a shower for weeks was perfectly acceptable. Although there is no law, people now shower at least a few times a week. This is considered good hygiene and courteous to others.

Doctors wear masks. The government experts recommend wearing masks. Covid is more infectious than the flu and there is no vaccine.

Times change. Norms change. A person's choice to wear a mask doesn't affect your rights. But your choice not to wear a mask affects other peoples' rights.

Either get over it, or stay home and find ways to remain socially distant so your choice doesn't affect others.
 
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