Masks and male behavior

["Roger"]

It appears that not wearing a mask is somewhat a macho thing. The tally on some recent visits to stores ...

A building supply center and a farm retail store (with lots of tools and other things mostly of interest to males)... In both of those, with most of the shoppers men, I would say about 20% of the customers were wearing masks. (That has changed with the building supply center which now requires masks.)

My wife's visit to a large greenhouse complex with mostly women picking out plants... About 80% to 90% wearing masks.

My experience this morning at a supermarket... About 80% wearing masks. Of those not wearing masks, about 80% men. Of the women not wearing masks. Not one alone. All of them were with a man who was not wearing a mask. This tallies with another supermarket which I more regularly go to during senior hours.

Talking to a neighbor who was sitting in an enormous pick up at the time. He read where masks did not give you protection. (I personally think it gives you some.) When my wife pointed out that the point of masks was to protect others, he made a sound which basically meant, what's that to me.

 

[Brett]

It appears that not wearing a mask is somewhat a macho thing. The tally on some recent visits to stores ...

A building supply center and a farm retail store (with lots of tools and other things mostly of interest to males)... In both of those, with most of the shoppers men, I would say about 20% of the customers were wearing masks. (That has changed with the building supply center which now requires masks.)

My wife's visit to a large greenhouse complex with mostly women picking out plants... About 80% to 90% wearing masks.

My experience this morning at a supermarket... About 80% wearing masks. Of those not wearing masks, about 80% men. Of the women not wearing masks. Not one alone. All of them were with a man who was not wearing a mask. This tallies with another supermarket which I more regularly go to during senior hours.

Talking to a neighbor who was sitting in an enormous pick up at the time. He read where masks did not give you protection. (I personally think it gives you some.) When my wife pointed out that the point of masks was to protect others, he made a sound which basically meant, what's that to me.

OK
people shopping at greenhouse nurseries and building supply centers are from different demographics

 

[Old Hickory]

Reminds me of the SNL skit: Quien es mas Macho?

 

[geekette]

There will always be a pocket of people that don't care about others. I would also make the leap that not everyone understands the need for masks right now. Of those that do, and understand that it's about protecting others, the ones still unmasked are vulgar jerks. I have never noticed a shortage of those.

that said, my observations today from quick grocery run are same as yours. Most everyone in a mask, those that weren't, were male.

That's what's weird to me about anyone wanting to eat in a restaurant now. Nobody eats or drinks with a mask on. Is it more comfortable because you aren't actually passing by people like would happen in a store? I personally just can't do it yet. Partially because anyone at that table with me, has not been hunkered down with me. I kind of feel bad, thinking, "ew, I don't know where you've been! do not unmask near me!"

This is all still too surreal to me. I don't like thinking about everyone else being a threat to me. But I like even less the ones that boldly go around being threats to everyone.

 

[Panina]

My experience has been different. The few that wore masks when I went to Home Depot were men.

 

[davidvel]

There will always be a pocket of people that don't care about others. I would also make the leap that not everyone understands the need for masks right now. Of those that do, and understand that it's about protecting others, the ones still unmasked are vulgar jerks. I have never noticed a shortage of those.

that said, my observations today from quick grocery run are same as yours. Most everyone in a mask, those that weren't, were male.

That's what's weird to me about anyone wanting to eat in a restaurant now. Nobody eats or drinks with a mask on. Is it more comfortable because you aren't actually passing by people like would happen in a store? I personally just can't do it yet. Partially because anyone at that table with me, has not been hunkered down with me. I kind of feel bad, thinking, "ew, I don't know where you've been! do not unmask near me!"

This is all still too surreal to me. I don't like thinking about everyone else being a threat to me. But I like even less the ones that boldly go around being threats to everyone.

People were threats to you, to varying degrees, every day everywhere you went around your town or travels. COVID-19 is not the first threat you'll face from others, and won't be the last.

 

[geist1223]

Our experince has been different. It is either 50/50 for both sexes or more women not wearing masks.

 

[geekette]

People were threats to you, to varying degrees, every day everywhere you went around your town or travels. COVID-19 is not the first threat you'll face from others, and won't be the last.

Those threats weren't super contagious.

 

[clifffaith]

The idiot who had a fit and refused to wear a mask in our local Trader Joe's was a 50ish woman.

 

[chellej]

DD is working on her Masters in Microbiology and the current course is naturally focused on all things covid. What is current;y being discussed is the use of masks and that they are for the protection of others but there is some evidence to suggest that it is also causing reinfections in people who have had the virus.

The other major point at the moment is that staying in home is detrimental along with sanitizing everything in site because of these 2 actions actually weaken people's immune systems. She encouraged me to spend plenty of time outside ( socially distancing of course) without a mask just to allow my immune system to be at its peak...also take emergenC or other immunity booster.

 

[Bailey#1]

My observation is about 80-90% of women where masks and about 60-70% of men where masks. We live in Vermont if that makes a difference.

 

[Monykalyn]

Wearing a face mask helps protect me against Covid-19, but not against racism

The Covid-19 pandemic is putting me in a difficult position as a physician and as a Black man. The order to wear a face mask in public has made it worse.

www.statnews.com

Interesting from a different perspective. A reminder we are NOT all on the same boat nor are we even facing the same storm.

 

[dmbrand]

I don’t see as many mask users in the mom and pop stores I frequent; I bring one along in case it is required, and so does my husband. There are few serious covid cases here. In fact, some hospitals are furloughing workers, and the advertisements on television are encouraging people to come in if they are having other serious ailments. As a whole, though, most everyone keeps their distance.

 

[plpgma]

Wearing a face mask helps protect me against Covid-19, but not against racism

The Covid-19 pandemic is putting me in a difficult position as a physician and as a Black man. The order to wear a face mask in public has made it worse.

www.statnews.com

Interesting from a different perspective. A reminder we are NOT all on the same boat nor are we even facing the same storm.

It saddens me greatly to read this article -- and I think Monykalyn's comment is spot on. I so hope that weathering this storm as one American people helps heal and close those wounds that are causing this young man to say and feel the things he writes in his article. Sadly, however, I know that there will always be some who will never move beyond their own predjudices regardless of how much we heal as a nation.

 

[TravelTime]

This is a really depressing story about a man who wore a KKK mask to a store. If he was trying to make a statement, he accomplished that. Really terrible that people would go out this way.

Man who wore KKK-style hood to California grocery store won't be charged

The man said he wore the mask was because of coronavirus restrictions and did not intend it to be a racial statement, officials said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Cornell]

There will always be a pocket of people that don't care about others. I would also make the leap that not everyone understands the need for masks right now. Of those that do, and understand that it's about protecting others, the ones still unmasked are vulgar jerks. I have never noticed a shortage of those.

that said, my observations today from quick grocery run are same as yours. Most everyone in a mask, those that weren't, were male.

That's what's weird to me about anyone wanting to eat in a restaurant now. Nobody eats or drinks with a mask on. Is it more comfortable because you aren't actually passing by people like would happen in a store? I personally just can't do it yet. Partially because anyone at that table with me, has not been hunkered down with me. I kind of feel bad, thinking, "ew, I don't know where you've been! do not unmask near me!"

This is all still too surreal to me. I don't like thinking about everyone else being a threat to me. But I like even less the ones that boldly go around being threats to everyone.

Vulgar jerks? Really? So this is what mask-wearers think of those who don't wear masks. Good to know.

 

[geekette]

Vulgar jerks? Really? So this is what mask-wearers think of those who don't wear masks. Good to know.

Yes, in my opinion. I don't know what others think.

You wear a mask to protect me, I wear a mask to protect you. No mask on you? You clearly don't care about others. What message do you think it sends?

 

[Cornell]

Yes, in my opinion. I don't know what others think.

You wear a mask to protect me, I wear a mask to protect you. No mask on you? You clearly don't care about others. What message do you think it sends?

Obviously to you it sends a message of "vulgar jerks" who don't care about other people.

For me it sends a message of "They don't want to wear a mask".

 

[TravelTime]

Not wearing a mask could mean many things. All we know for sure are the facts...they are not wearing a mask.

 

[davidvel]

Those threats weren't super contagious.

Contagious or not, they kill you if you don't lock yourselves indoors. At much higher rates than COVID-19 ever would if there was no lockdowns, every year, indefinitely. But we always accepted that such risks existed and there was no way to continue a society without exposing us all to those risks, while being reasonable to mitigate those risks. That mindset has changed with COVID19.

 

[clifffaith]

20 minutes of nonsense spewed by this woman.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

It appears that not wearing a mask is somewhat a macho thing. The tally on some recent visits to stores ...

A building supply center and a farm retail store (with lots of tools and other things mostly of interest to males)... In both of those, with most of the shoppers men, I would say about 20% of the customers were wearing ....

My experience this morning at a supermarket... About 80% wearing masks. Of those not wearing masks, about 80% men. ......

Darwin award candidates .

 

[dioxide45]

It may also seem that much of this is also regional. Went to Winn Dixie here in Florida today and perhaps only about 25% are wearing masks. It even seems to vary based on the store. In Target it looked to be about 50% where Aldi it was a little higher. Costco was 100% the other day because if you didn't have one, they gave you one.

 

[geekette]

Contagious or not, they kill you if you don't lock yourselves indoors. At much higher rates than COVID-19 ever would if there was no lockdowns, every year, indefinitely. But we always accepted that such risks existed and there was no way to continue a society without exposing us all to those risks, while being reasonable to mitigate those risks. That mindset has changed with COVID19.

Apparently those epidemics never made it into my county and grocery store and workplace and started killing people I know. I have never before heard scientists around the world sound the alarm on social distancing. I have never before seen country after country tell their citizens to stay indoors. I have never before seen such a fast death count. So, what is it about those other epidemics that is so similar to this one? Did I just miss that coverage?

 

[klpca]

I say this about no one here (because I don't actually know you) but about others that I do know. This situation has really shown some people's true colors.

I have seen managers (single, no kids) show absolutely no mercy to their employees who are trying to work from home with preschoolers. The exact words spoken "Not my problem. They chose to have kids. Figure it out". Nice. They are not cut out for management if you ask me. I have friends who refuse to wear masks - "virtue signalling" whatever that means to them, as well as people who are absolutely loosing-their-bunnies when people take a walk without a mask but, maintain social distance. What do they think that they will get from across the street, 30+ feet away from the other folks? When you are on private property you are just going to have to play by the property owners rules. If you don't want to wear a mask in the store, then you need to use instacart or have a friend shop for you. There are folks who are just so black and white on this issue, but my goodness how about applying some common sense? Sometimes I don't recognize some of the citizens of our country. Luckily I have middle-of-the-road friends who have restored my faith in humanity.

To me the last two+ months have been like having training wheels on our bikes and now it is time to take them off. Some will just ride confidently without them, others will wobble. Apparently some will park their bike in the garage. But like it or not, at some point the training wheels are coming off. I hope that going forward, people can try to understand where others are coming from and refrain from name calling, blaming, or being rude. It just makes a bad situation worse.