Masks and male behavior

[geekette]

How many dead people would be enough?

Isn't NY still losing hundreds per day?

 

[geekette]

I was just quoting the number......no editorializing.....I will edit for the accepted sarcasm emoji. My bad that it was not obvious referring to a subset of new yorker's that was many times higher than the total of all new yorkers.

Aren't some areas of the state at least partially re-opening? I thought I saw that on one of Cuomo's recent updates.

 

[bluehende]

Aren't some areas of the state at least partially re-opening? I thought I saw that on one of Cuomo's recent updates.

Yes some areas will reopen. He was asking for plans last week to allow those that met the criteria to open as early as this Friday.

 

[bnoble]

will edit for the accepted sarcasm emoji.

For the record, I am always suspicious of "I was just joking."

 

[bbodb1]

You may want to look at this and change your post.

COVID-19 death rates by age group in New York City 2022 | Statista

The death rate in New York City for adults aged 75 years and older was around 4,135 per 100,000 people as of December 22, 2022.

www.statista.com

At the same time, given the backlog of cases currently overwhelming coroner's offices in the NYC area, can we know these death counts are accurately attributed to the true cause of death with respect to the deceased? To be clear, I am not suggesting any nefarious motivation here, but it takes time to process deaths, to research and accurately attribute the cause(s) of death. The cited article has the following heading:

Deaths rates for COVID-19 in New York City as of May 17, 2020, by age group

From my perspective, this data - and this claim- are questionable for the moment.

 

[geekette]

Cause of death - I am not sure that all states/counties are handling this the same way. For some locales, any positive COVID gets COD as COVID, regardless of underlying conditions.

I would like consistency, it would let us all know what any numbers from anywhere actually mean. I think some bodies await autopsy to confirm COD. My state has a time or two alerted to "increased death counts" because of catching up on some confirmed CODs, including home deaths, warning that they did not all occur "yesterday".

 

[Talent312]

Observations from Lowe's & Home Depot
Yesterday, I went to Lowe's and Home Depot. Both had large signs near their entrances which said, "You must wear a mask to enter." -- Our local C19 order requires masks in retail stores.

HD had a decent # of customers, and everyone was wearing a mask, but Lowe's was a different story.

Lowe's, OTOH, had many more weekend-warriors. I saw about 8 peep w/o masks... an equal number of men + women. Apparently, there was no one at the door checking people as they came in. I was tempted to challenge them, or ask a store employee to do so. But thinking, this isn't my fight, I just turned around and walked in another direction. Kind'a wimpy for a guy, I guess.

 

[bluehende]

For the record, I am always suspicious of "I was just joking."

Not joking.

Pointing out that with the original post he claimed that 2 million people between the ages of 18 and 44 were infected in a state that has 400,000 infections when you do the math. That it would also be hard to lock down 80 million people living in a state that has only 19 million there. My intended sarcasm comes in here as it would be hard to find those other 61 million to lock down. My first post was a polite suggestion that he may want to change his post as he read a chart wrong. I allow him to have his own opinion, but I do not think he should be allowed to give facts that are off by a factor of 40.

 

[geekette]

....But thinking, this isn't my fight, I just turned around and walked in another direction. Kind'a wimpy for a guy, I guess.

Not wimpy at all. Based on how many violent incidents in/near retail establishments since this whole thing began, walking away makes perfect sense to me. One does not know who might not take kindly to something said or done. Why bother? Not your monkeys, not your circus.

Wimpy for a guy ... as a female, this is not the issue upon which I would estimate your manhood. I also don't actually go around estimating manhood nor comparing man to man. Men are men, they are all very different, I have no masculinity scale in my head. My guess is that most of that is men against men. I have always found they insult each other's manhood as a matter of course. I speak for myself only, so I can't be sure there aren't females around dissing manhoodity of any specific male or group of them.

 

[Old Hickory]

Many local governments have put mask orders in place. Does anyone know what metrics will be used to determine when those orders will be lifted?

I know that our county mayor is relying on the county health department who is working closely with the CDC to devise his guidelines and orders. What metrics? I don't know but we've never had orders, for the general public, to wear masks. Private swimming pools opened today but they are under tight restrictions by the health department.

 

[SueDonJ]

Moderator Note: The thread's closed. It's generated oh-so-many reports over its short life but the thing that finally did it for me is the "frady-cats" thing. Really?!?! After dealing with the coward nonsense now we've moved on to "frady-cats?!?!"

Keep on insulting those of us who couldn't care less whether mask-wearing fits somewhere on your whacked masculinity barometer. I'm keeping track, now, of the TUGgers who are making these comments (as opposed to only the comments) and will now begin asking Admin to suspend people who use them.