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You're Being Lied to About Electric Cars

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Don't try to present @Carolinian with facts; it just confuses him. I think he'd rather just believe the memes posted on his far-right websites.

And with that I brought this thread full circle from where I started it.

Kurt

Actually, most of my posts on electric car fires and battery problems come from local news sites, usually local TV stations or from major British daily newspapers.


I would rather keep my MGB even if they gave me one of those for free.
 

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Popular plug-in hybrids work quietly as training wheels for EV revolution

The cars that get you addicted to driving electric

Plug-in hybrids are the quiet workhorses of the electric revolution

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2023/05/04/plug-in-hybrids-gateway-evs/

In 2022, plug-in hybrids accounted for almost 30 percent of all electric cars sold, and their sales are rising faster than fully electric vehicles.

If anyone actually read the article that @Carolinian posted, it contained the following statistics:

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Not sure how exactly these stats are calculated, but by those numbers - hybrids are the most likely to catch fire - because hybrids are inherently the most complex of all three vehicle types. BEVs are the least complex of the three types - and the data shows that due to the limited complexity of BEVs - they actually have the lowest risk of catching fire. While the risk/rate is lowest for BEVs, there's no arguing that when a battery catches fire - it's a dangerous proposition given the chemistry used in most battery packs today. As other battery pack tech comes to market, such as sodium ion battery packs, that don't use lithium, hopefully the new tech also has positive impacts on battery fire safety for vehicle occupants and fire extinguishing practices.
 

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I would rather keep my MGB even if they gave me one of those for free.
That's great. I fully support everyone to drive what they prefer to drive, but the facts are that one if more likely to have a fire in a conventional fuel car vs. an EV. And constantly posting articles about individual incidents of EV fires with the intent to show how "dangerous" they are is just fear-mongering.

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That's great. I fully support everyone to drive what they prefer to drive, but the facts are that one if more likely to have a fire in a conventional fuel car vs. an EV. And constantly posting articles about individual incidents of EV fires with the intent to show how "dangerous" they are is just fear-mongering.

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A gasoline based fire does not spread nearly as quickly as the thermal runaway in an EV. Even safer are diesel powered cars, as diesel is much less flamable than gas or lithium.
 

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A gasoline based fire does not spread nearly as quickly as the thermal runaway in an EV. Even safer are diesel powered cars, as diesel is much less flamable than gas or lithium.
To carry your posit to it's logical conclusion, horses and buggies are safer yet due to the FAR less flammable nature of hay and horses**t.
 

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Once you understand Milankovich cycles and earth science just a bit, you will realize how insignificant atmospheric co2 is. Once you realize this, the rationale of it all is diminished and the motivations appear to be profit.

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To carry your posit to it's logical conclusion, horses and buggies are safer yet due to the FAR less flammable nature of hay and horses**t.

I like horses but when the oil wells eventually run dry I hope we don't have to depend on horses for transportation
 

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I like horses but when the oil wells eventually run dry I hope we don't have to depend on horses for transportation
Funny how 120 years ago, everybody had horses, and only the very wealthy had cars. Now EVERYBODY has cars and only the wealthy have horses. Go figure.
 

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Funny how 120 years ago, everybody had horses, and only the very wealthy had cars. Now EVERYBODY has cars and only the wealthy have horses. Go figure.

I call this progress.

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A gasoline based fire does not spread nearly as quickly as the thermal runaway in an EV.
For every one of your fear-mongering, fact-lacking statements on how unsafe EVs are, I can find one of these:


However, what you don't seem to understand is that showing individual incidents means nothing.

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Era of AM radio crackles off into sunset

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/13/am-radio-electric-cars/

"Automakers, such as BMW, Volkswagen, Mazda and Tesla, are removing AM radios from new electric vehicles because electric engines can interfere with the sound of AM stations.
And Ford, one of the nation's top-three auto sellers, is taking a bigger step, eliminating AM from all of its vehicles, electric or gas-operated."
 

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Era of AM radio crackles off into sunset

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/13/am-radio-electric-cars/

"Automakers, such as BMW, Volkswagen, Mazda and Tesla, are removing AM radios from new electric vehicles because electric engines can interfere with the sound of AM stations.
And Ford, one of the nation's top-three auto sellers, is taking a bigger step, eliminating AM from all of its vehicles, electric or gas-operated."

I wonder how many people use am radio anyway.

Bill
 

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We have been listening to a local AM station when driving the vehicle that doesn't have XM
 

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All of my radios have access to am radio but I have so many other options that I rarely listen to am or fm anymore. I think I tuned in a channel for a pass report a few years ago.

Bill
 
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