RCI Suspended Eagle Village Tamiment

[Sammy1234]

You said "Bottom line is, instead of letting it get this bad, they could have gradually increased maintenance fees, looked for grants, brainstormed with the board to do something."

I'm confused, who is "they"?

The board did increase MFs, 350 in 2002 to 760 in 2024. That's an average of 4% a year over the last 22 years. I would call that gradual.
You wrote "if the number of timeshare owners has decreased over 50%, wait til these increases happen, its going to really drop."

I asked about special assessments when I was there in 2021. The office person said it was afraid of losing more people, just like you said. Ownership is less than 30% at my last visit in July 2024. It must be less now. Around 25%. Yes, EV will lose more. But Oakes is taking ownership through a new separate company of deeded back, ownerless timeshares. So is he part of our timeshare anymore? I dont think so. He's not an owner of Eagle Village POA, so he can't vote. He is Bushkil PA Eagle Village Property Owners, LLC. I think we will be separate. That's why I don't think our Board will be unreasonable with assessments.

About the bids, I think we need to start trusting the board. Give it some time to organize and accept bids.It has already said what the plan is. It won't be giving us a blow by blow. But it did say check the new website from time to time. The renovation plan just started and it said would take 2 years.
I'm a fact nerd. It helps me to stick with the facts. That's why I went to see for myself. I don't think there is anything nefarious going on. Truly. But I would appreciate your observations should you decide to visit it. I was reading up on the history of Tamiment Hotel just last night. It was such a wonderful, beloved place back in its heyday by so many people.
The real villian is Seong Hong, the man who bought the property and then closed it down in 2004, just 2 years after I bought it. I really feel cheated about that, but happy, Sammy1234, you got so many wonderful years. Makes me smile about the watermelon races, even though my kids missed out on that.

Yes, back when I went with my parents back in the 80's, it was beautiful and many fun times at the pool. Interesting enough, I just today was telling my neighbor who I knew lived in the Pocono's about Eagle Village, she said, her parents owned the property directly across from Taniment. She said, one day, some short guy with a mustache walked over to talk to her parents, I said, Wayne Newton? She said, yes that's who it was. She said her parents had cabins out front on their property (I think I kind of remember that). She said, the cabins were old and run down and Wayne Newton asked if he could pay to have them torn down because they were an eyesore to the people coming into Taniment. So yes, at one time there was pride of ownership.

 

[194725RR]

We have a progress update post on Facebook:

Eagle Village Resort

🌳Forging New Paths🌳 🍃To us this means listening to our owners, embracing feedback, and infusing fresh ideas into our beloved resort. We’re dedicated to enhancing our facilities, elevating service...

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[LisaC]

We are in the process of doing the deedback. Really hate to put out the $2,500 but we figure with maintenance fees going to increase...probabaly close to $1,000 and by the time they add some assessments, we might not be far off and this gets us out of this forever!

 

[natalia]

We are in the process of doing the deedback. Really hate to put out the $2,500 but we figure with maintenance fees going to increase...probabaly close to $1,000 and by the time they add some assessments, we might not be far off and this gets us out of this forever!

Definitely a large amount to pay however it is understandable since the upcoming maintenance fees and possible special assessments are unknown and questions still remain about these “changes” forthcoming.

 

[Sammy1234]

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a problem with the fact that people have posted things like, I almost broke my ankle because the steps were rotten, no air conditioning, just to name a few major faults, but yet they are excited to tell us they are putting in a new walking trail that will be finished by 2025? Shouldn't a new walking trail be at the bottom of the list of renovations? Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

[TugFhj]

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a problem with the fact that people have posted things like, I almost broke my ankle because the steps were rotten, no air conditioning, just to name a few major faults, but yet they are excited to tell us they are putting in a new walking trail that will be finished by 2025? Shouldn't a new walking trail be at the bottom of the list of renovations? Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I agree! I am sure there might have been some safety concerns, but when did they meet with the 10+ contractors and obtain bids to get the best prices for the tree removal? Renovations sound nice however most of the units need a deep cleaning and some basic repairs to become more useable and get RCI reinstated. Seems to be priorities not in the right order. They seem to also promoting deed buy backs a little too eagerly and at $2600 a bit extreme! Time keeps passing and still really no plan revealed to the owners. My own opinion they have something else in mind like more homes. Do you really think in this day and age of timeshare not as popular the decline of the Pocono area that a "new" resort would make financial sense ?

 

[natalia]

I agree! I am sure there might have been some safety concerns, but when did they meet with the 10+ contractors and obtain bids to get the best prices for the tree removal? Renovations sound nice however most of the units need a deep cleaning and some basic repairs to become more useable and get RCI reinstated. Seems to be priorities not in the right order. They seem to also promoting deed buy backs a little too eagerly and at $2600 a bit extreme! Time keeps passing and still really no plan revealed to the owners. My own opinion they have something else in mind like more homes. Do you really think in this day and age of timeshare not as popular the decline of the Pocono area that a "new" resort would make financial sense ?

Good points.
After thinking about the latest updates from “new management”on Facebook and their many promising projects I am not convinced that this “Timeshare” project is the real priority.

 

[LisaC]

Has anyone who has done a Deedback get their title and show it has been completed? I am waiting for mine to complete, its been about 3 weeks in process so far.

 

[nellevad]

You will get a letter, not a title, stating the transfer is complete. You could also call EV and find out if their records show you are no longer an owner.

 

[LisaC]

You will get a letter, not a title, stating the transfer is complete. You could also call EV and find out if their records show you are no longer an owner.

Yes, that's a good idea. I was told she would send me confirmation when the account is closed. She said once she has been notified by the resort management, she would send it to me. I am thinking maybe early next week.

 

[LisaC]

Officially out of it. Got my letter today. It's been 18 years of owning it.

 

[194725RR]

Officially out of it. Got my letter today. It's been 18 years of owning it.

Sorry to see you go. Glad you are satisfied with the outcome. Hopefully, everything works out well for each person with a stake in this property. There's a lot of history here for many of us. Thanks for your contributions to this blog.

 

[LisaC]

Sorry to see you go. Glad you are satisfied with the outcome. Hopefully, everything works out well for each person with a stake in this property. There's a lot of history here for many of us. Thanks for your contributions to this blog.

Thanks so much! I am going to keep tabs on this page to see what I am missing out on. Just curious how everything turns out and when they get reinstated back to RCI.

 

[kevlev]

Just an update. We used our week in mid-July and survived! We were placed in 1064 instead of our 1061(under renovation). Another 3BR. Unit was functional with AC and appliances all working. Biggest problem was mice...Not so great. We were given two glue traps which both yielded results for better or worse. Stephanie said they contract for regular pest control. Maybe a new pest controller is in order! Otherwise it was a very nice stay with the usual deer visitations although no bear sightings. Thanks to Nellevad for her "scouting" ahead of our stay. And it was nice to meet John Oakes, who was jogging around the property at the same time as me.

 

[mcara00]

Just an update. We used our week in mid-July and survived! We were placed in 1064 instead of our 1061(under renovation). Another 3BR. Unit was functional with AC and appliances all working. Biggest problem was mice...Not so great. We were given two glue traps which both yielded results for better or worse. Stephanie said they contract for regular pest control. Maybe a new pest controller is in order! Otherwise it was a very nice stay with the usual deer visitations although no bear sightings. Thanks to Nellevad for her "scouting" ahead of our stay. And it was nice to meet John Oakes, who was jogging around the property at the same time as me.

Interesting - we owned week 24 in this unit (#1064). We almost always traded (especially after moving south from PA). We never stayed in unit 1064, but did spend a week in a similar 3 BR unit one year over New Years when the hotel was still in operation. It is very sad that EV has deteriorated to this extent - the golf course was once very nice. I said "owned" (past tense) because we receive notification this week that our deed has been transferred so we are officially out.

Good luck to those sticking around to see what happens. Unfortunately, the amenities we were attracted to when we purchased in 1987 will likely never be back and we won't ever live close enough to PA to make owning at EV worth waiting through more of the tough times still ahead.

 

[Sammy1234]

Does anyone have any concerns with John Oakes wanting to use this resort if you want to call it that to let people that go to his venues use EV. especially when just to name a few of his venues include names like Taste of Chaos, Mayhem, Vegas Bike Feast UPROAR Festival, just to name a few. Do you honestly think people returning from these concerts are go back to EV and getting in their pj's? No! its going to be parting all night into the morning. Good luck with that!

 

[nellevad]

So glad to hear all the news. I also own 1064, but saw no mice when I was there in early July. Didn't mean there weren't any, of course. We were very careful with food ( being campers). We did see ants in the lower bathroom at the end of the week. So I imagine they might do a monthly pest control plan. Also very glad you contacted John Oakes, for I thought I saw him there. Just couldn't catch up to him. I firmly believe he will turn the place around. His communication on Facebook has yielded more important information on loss of income over the years. 1400 non paying owners for over 5+ years is devastating to a budget. That is over a third of the ownership. I expect to see more information on that when the budget is released. I sincerely hope he can successfully forclose on those. I think we are in a unique place to be. This area is about to be redevelopment. We have front row sests.

Does anyone have any concerns with John Oakes wanting to use this resort if you want to call it that to let people that go to his venues use EV. especially when just to name a few of his venues include names like Taste of Chaos, Mayhem, Vegas Bike Feast UPROAR Festival, just to name a few. Do you honestly think people returning from these concerts are go back to EV and getting in their pj's? No! its going to be parting all night into the morning. Good luck with that!

He also wants to offer it as a wedding venue for his Lake House. I have biker friends and hard rock friends who would never dream of trashing places. No, I don't have any concerns.

 

[Sammy1234]

So glad to hear all the news. I also own 1064, but saw no mice when I was there in early July. Didn't mean there weren't any, of course. We were very careful with food ( being campers). We did see ants in the lower bathroom at the end of the week. So I imagine they might do a monthly pest control plan. Also very glad you contacted John Oakes, for I thought I saw him there. Just couldn't catch up to him. I firmly believe he will turn the place around. His communication on Facebook has yielded more important information on loss of income over the years. 1400 non paying owners for over 5+ years is devastating to a budget. That is over a third of the ownership. I expect to see more information on that when the budget is released. I sincerely hope he can successfully forclose on those. I think we are in a unique place to be. This area is about to be redevelopment. We have front row sests.

He also wants to offer it as a wedding venue for his Lake House. I have biker friends and hard rock friends who would never dream of trashing places. No, I don't have any concerns.

I said nothing about trashing the place. I said, people would be up partying after the concerts. Which I would be right there with them, but I am bringing grandkids that are 7 & 9. So its feels like it won't be a place to bring families with young kids.

 

[nellevad]

There is a 10 pm no noise policy.

 

[Sammy1234]

There is a 10 pm no noise policy.

Hopefully there will be enough staff there to enforce that policy.

 

[natalia]

I just finished reading a book about “Jerry Lewis & Dean Martin.”
I was amused to read this mention on the last page!

 

[SalonJ]

Yes, that's a good idea. I was told she would send me confirmation when the account is closed. She said once she has been notified by the resort management, she would send it to me. I am thinking maybe early next week.

Hi, how did you start this process? I've been an owner for 40 years and I would like to do the same. I lost my week last year and this year we can't even exchanged. I even talked to RCI today and they still are not exchanging with Eagle Village. They are still on suspension. I would like to get out of it if possible I'd appreciate if you could let me know. Thank you.

 

[LisaC]

Hi, how did you start this process? I've been an owner for 40 years and I would like to do the same. I lost my week last year and this year we can't even exchanged. I even talked to RCI today and they still are not exchanging with Eagle Village. They are still on suspension. I would like to get out of it if possible I'd appreciate if you could let me know. Thank you.

Sure, you can contact: Frank @ Resale Closings, Inc. @: 610-863-1581

He took good care of the deedback. It cost $2,500 but I am officially released from it, which to me was worth it.

 

[TugFhj]

So for those of you who are still owners have you received your email from Eagle Village to setup your owner portal access? Any helpful info posted?

 

[194725RR]

So for those of you who are still owners have you received your email from Eagle Village to setup your owner portal access? Any helpful info posted?

I've been working with customer service trying to receive my portal link, but I have not yet been successful via email or via text message. They said they're working on it.