*** Official 2023 Vistana Maintenance Fees Thread ***

[zjhasan1976]

Vistana Villages - Bella 81k EOY

 

[DanCali]

I'm finally getting around to opening up my bills and am also shocked at the $307 membership fee. Plus, they added it to my most expensive WKORV OFD week, making that bill a whopping $4,100.000+. I preferred it scattered among two of my bills! It seemed less painful. My fee level is also listed as "Chairman," which I could care less about because I will never use Abound, and have never needed to bank, change names, or pay cancellation fees. If someone has just two intervals, is the fee $239.58? It doesn't seem necessary for me to pay $307/year to book my own home resort reservations. If I opt out, will Marriott decide some year soon to start charging me for transactions that used to be included in SVN?

Per the "fine print" on the back of the MF bill, if you opt out you will be at the "Owner" benefit level in VSN (even if you were 5-Star before, because that's all gone). So, for example, banking Staroptions will have early deadlines, carry a fee each time you do it, and they will be good for only 1 year (starting in 2025). You would also lose what is effectively Bonvoy Titanium for life status, and lose the ability to waitlist for VSN reservations Make sure you are with losing all that because you'll be going from the higher elite level to being much more restricted in many ways and it may be hard to go back without paying a fee.

 

[jeffm211]

Has anyone tried to pay MF from the Vistana website since Abound has launched? I'm getting an error message when trying to pull up statements from the Association link on the website. One would think making it easy to pay is one of the things Marriott would want working for sure!!

 

[dioxide45]

Vistana Villages - Bella 81k EOY

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I can't login to confirm our annual SVV Bella Prime season, but looking at this and doubling it, it looks like about a 7.3% increase.

 

[dioxide45]

Sheraton Vistana Villages dedicated 2BR Prime Bella 81K StarOptions;

2023 OPERATING ASSESSMENT $1,040.12
2023 REPLACEMENT RESERVES $273.45
2023 ESTIMATED REAL ESTATE TAX $123.00
2023 TOTAL $1436.57

2022 TOTAL $1338.75 <<-- 7.3% Increase

 

[dioxide45]

Sheraton Vistana Villages dedicated 1BR Prime Key West 44K StarOptions - Every Other Year

2023 OPERATING ASSESSMENT $246.28
2023 REPLACEMENT RESERVES $52.06
2023 ESTIMATED REAL ESTATE TAX $40.27
2023 TOTAL $338.61

2022 TOTAL $313.94 <<-- 7.9% Increase

 

[VacationForever]

Sheraton Vistana Villages dedicated 2BR Prime Key West 44K StarOptions - Every Other Year

2023 OPERATING ASSESSMENT $246.28
2023 REPLACEMENT RESERVES $52.06
2023 ESTIMATED REAL ESTATE TAX $40.27
2023 TOTAL $338.61

2022 TOTAL $313.94 <<-- 7.9% Increase

MF looks like a 1BR?

 

[Quiet Pine]

Has anyone tried to pay MF from the Vistana website since Abound has launched? I'm getting an error message when trying to pull up statements from the Association link on the website. One would think making it easy to pay is one of the things Marriott would want working for sure!!

So frustrating! Error message yesterday, again this morning. Phoned them & hung up after 20 minutes on hold. MF are due Jan. 5, but I'd like to get it out of the way sooner.

 

[jeffm211]

So frustrating! Error message yesterday, again this morning. Phoned them & hung up after 20 minutes on hold. MF are due Jan. 5, but I'd like to get it out of the way sooner.

Vistana site down again. Was able to get in a short time ago, switched over the MVC site to check on some Abound availability and came back to re-login to Vistana and site is down. Putting MF on Bonvoy Amex card...but they are not making it easy!

 

[dioxide45]

MF looks like a 1BR?

Sorry, Yes it is. I updated my post.

 

[jeffm211]

2023 MAINTENANCE FEES

WLR - 2BR LO - Gold + $1,783.74 - 3400 CPs - $.52/CP

WDW - 2BR LO - Platinum - $2,300.48 - 3725 CPs - $.62/CP

WKV - 2BR LO - Platinum - $1,878.79 - 4050 CPs - $.46/CP

WESTIN RIVERFRONT - 2BR LO EOY - Middle season (95,700 SO) - $1,178.41 - not eligible for Abound at this time.

Corrected: 12/6/22

 

[cubigbird]

Westin Desert Willow 2 Bedroom Lockoff Platinum Plus season

2022 Fees: $1993.79
2023 Fees: $2300.48

YOY increase $306.69 or 15%

 

[cubigbird]

Westin St John Sunsey Bay Diamond Season Home Options 176,700 EOY.

2022 Fees: $1998.19
2023 Fees: $2564.62

These are the fees for just the points, no club dues or anything else.

YOY Increase $566.53 or 28%. TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT INCREASE!!!

Since that’s EOY that puts a week well over $5000 for a week. A substantial jump!!

 

[rubbernyc]

Deleted. please ignore.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Westin Desert Willow 2 Bedroom Lockoff Platinum Plus season

2022 Fees: $1993.79
2023 Fees: $2300.48

YOY increase $306.69 or 15%

Lovely. Just bought an EOY that is not in our account yet. Does this include property taxes? I feel like the Palm Desert resort owners are getting ripped off. Has AC gone up that much in the desert?

 

[dioxide45]

Lovely. Just bought an EOY that is not in our account yet. Does this include property taxes? I feel like the Palm Desert resort owners are getting ripped off. Has AC gone up that much in the desert?

Isn't everything in CA more expensive? I am not really sure what the reason is, but many of the Marriott Palm Desert resorts have also seen steep increases.

 

[cubigbird]

Lovely. Just bought an EOY that is not in our account yet. Does this include property taxes? I feel like the Palm Desert resort owners are getting ripped off. Has AC gone up that much in the desert?

Yes, that includes all the necessary items, excludes club fees, ARDA-ROC etc.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Isn't everything in CA more expensive? I am not really sure what the reason is, but many of the Marriott Palm Desert resorts have also seen steep increases.

YES! Shadow Ridge is so high. A lot of people will be dumping their Palm Desert weeks, but I for one will not be in the market for more of them. I am done with that. They do trade extremely well, but no better than Willow Ridge.

 

[daviator]

Isn't everything in CA more expensive? I am not really sure what the reason is, but many of the Marriott Palm Desert resorts have also seen steep increases.

I went to the annual meeting for WDW this year. The increases are almost 100% due to staff costs, and general inflation. Starting wage for housekeepers is close to $20/hour now IIRC, that's apparently what it takes to find and retain people. Staffing has been the biggest difficulty coming out of the pandemic.

 

[Quiet Pine]

Vistana website was up this morning and I was able to go to the Dashboard and pay my maintenance fee. Finally no Error message!
Sheraton Desert Oasis MF for 2BR Lockoff Villa $691.94

 

[dioxide45]

Vistana website was up this morning and I was able to go to the Dashboard and pay my maintenance fee. Finally no Error message!
Sheraton Desert Oasis MF for 2BR Lockoff Villa $691.94

Every other year?

 

[Quiet Pine]

Every other year?

Of course, yes, sorry about that. Every other year. My 2nd EOY Sheraton Desert Oasis 2BR Lockoff Villa was MF $47.92.

 

[LovesSTJ]

Westin St John Sunsey Bay Diamond Season Home Options 176,700 EOY.

2022 Fees: $1998.19
2023 Fees: $2564.62

These are the fees for just the points, no club dues or anything else.

YOY Increase $566.53 or 28%. TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT INCREASE!!!

Since that’s EOY that puts a week well over $5000 for a week. A substantial jump!!

Ours is the same! It may be time to re-evaluate our ownership with increases like this. I understand the need to retain employees and that costs have gone up. With the job market what it is, I do not expect that the 2024 fee will be something more reasonable.

 

[cubigbird]

Ours is the same! It may be time to re-evaluate our ownership with increases like this. I understand the need to retain employees and that costs have gone up. With the job market what it is, I do not expect that the 2024 fee will be something more reasonable.

I just hope the bad debt expense doesn’t soar. 2024 will have to be more reasonable or the house starts to crumble. I can’t imagine any owner having budgeted that high of an increase. Huge increases like that aren’t sustainable.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Vistana website was up this morning and I was able to go to the Dashboard and pay my maintenance fee. Finally no Error message!
Sheraton Desert Oasis MF for 2BR Lockoff Villa $691.94

I got an error message just now when trying to pay my Sheraton weeks. I am getting frustrated with the website.

But Marriott's website is not much better.