I am aware of this, but very interesting that a long-time Hyatt rep has never heard of PPP.
My guess is he was lying. Maybe to keep the discussion on track to sell you on the Hawaii property?
I am aware of this, but very interesting that a long-time Hyatt rep has never heard of PPP.
No way to tell, but I didn't get that impression; he was very low key/pressure. BTW, my guess is he has a pretty easy job; this resort is gorgeous, possibly the nicest on Maui.My guess is he was lying. Maybe to keep the discussion on track to sell you on the Hawaii property?
We will be there soon. Curious what the incentives were for the presentation. How long was it? Nice to hear it was low key. It would be a great place to own but the Wetin Villas are so much more affordable.No way to tell, but I didn't get that impression; he was very low key/pressure. BTW, my guess is he has a pretty easy job; this resort is gorgeous, possibly the nicest on Maui.
I've not checked out Valdoro because they are not in II. The best along with the most convenient ski-in/out locations at Breck are Grand Lodge at Peak 7 and Grand Lodge at Peak 8. Both have reasonable MFs. Unfortunately, I will not buy floating ski season weeks and I could never find a resale fixed week at those locations for the specific time period I was looking forCurious to know if you looked at HGVC Valdoro for Breckinridge? If so, what did you think?
We will be there soon. Curious what the incentives were for the presentation. How long was it? Nice to hear it was low key. It would be a great place to own but the Wetin Villas are so much more affordable.
We will be there soon. Curious what the incentives were for the presentation. How long was it? Nice to hear it was low key. It would be a great place to own but the Wetin Villas are so much more affordable.
We stayed in a 1 BR unit recently but didn't take a tour this year. Do they show the 1 and 3 BR condos still too or only the 2 BR condos?
We like the Marriott too but not so much the small balconies at the newer towers but the oceanfront view is much better, IMO. We decided not to take an update there either.
I was surprised to read that the HRC in Ka'anapali is only 57% sold out.
We just called to set up a presentation as I want a tour and we wanted to do one before our children started arriving. We signed up for the 15,000 Hyatt points but there are lots of options of activities too.
I agree with Liz ,this is one I wouldn't mind owning.
This is an amazing resort. Very few weeks will be in PPP. As more units are sold, I suspect it will be harder and harder to get using points. Most owners will use or rent.
We seem to get in each year 6 months out and I have been seeing inventory , some Nov dates were there this weekend. Very rare to see middle of the summer or prime winter months though. But the majority of inventory is 30 to 60 days.This property is not in the HPP, so no points are there (or do you mean the possibility of them being there in the future because of the Marriott purchase?). It seems like the units I have seen on the internal trades are mostly <30-60 days out, which makes me think they are only there because of schedule issues by the owner at the last minute. The rest, like you say are either used by the owner or rented.
He asked if there were any owners in the room that had decided to participate in the portfolio program and no one raise their hand, he stated how surprised he was. He went on to say that people who participate in the program we're going to be given preferential treatment in regards to reservations and that it was going to become more difficult to book vacations. I'm not sure how that could be possible if they're keeping legacy separate from PPP.
We are currently at the property Coconut Plantation in Bonita Springs. On Monday, we attended an owners meeting with Rey, the property manager. He said a few interesting things during that meeting that caught my attention. First, he talked about ILG recently being acquired by Marriott. He stated that as of right now things were to remain business as usual as far as Hyatt properties were concerned. Regarding PPP, he asked if there were any owners in the room that had decided to participate in the portfolio program and no one raise their hand, he stated how surprised he was. He went on to say that people who participate in the program we're going to be given preferential treatment in regards to reservations and that it was going to become more difficult to book vacations. I'm not sure how that could be possible if they're keeping legacy separate from PPP. He briefly touched on owners being able to deposit their points on a year-to-year basis but stated that would be taken up and addressed by the sales team. Curiosity was getting the best of me so we have an appointment tomorrow morning to have the sales staff "enlighten us" as to "the truth" about the program. We were told that the information we were getting was not correct. I have no idea how they would even know what the information is that I have received. Anyone on here that would like to suggest some questions that I should present to the salesman tomorrow morning? I have no intention of participating in the program since we currently own at two properties. I would like to make him squirm a little bit so I'm open to all suggestions.
Thank you cropman for your response. I will definitely pose these questions.I like Kal’s suggestions. Ask him to show you how many popular weeks are available in the program that day. In other words, week 7, 51, 52 at any resorts. Weeks 5-13 in Florida. Ski weeks. Etc. Tell him you would really like to go to Hawaii in the winter. (Oh yeah, that’s not in the program.) Depends on how much you want to make him squirm.
I will definitely question him on this issue. I'm sure the acquisition is going to put a kink in the program. From a legal standpoint, I would like to know if there is any protection as a legacy owner as to what can legally be done regarding our ownership and the original program we bought in to.This guy has NO idea what Marriott is going to do. He needed to say no more. He did himself in with this statement. One thing I'm pretty sure of is Marriott is going to modify things, including PPP (which was a disaster from the start).
This guy has NO idea what Marriott is going to do. He needed to say no more. He did himself in with this statement. One thing I'm pretty sure of is Marriott is going to modify things, including PPP (which was a disaster from the start).
I will definitely question him on this issue. I'm sure the acquisition is going to put a kink in the program. From a legal standpoint, I would like to know if there is any protection as a legacy owner as to what can legally be done regarding our ownership and the original program we bought in to.
. He further stated that 98% of current owners are not selling off their legacy units, but they are buying into the portfolio points program to give them more flexibility. He said that 30% of the current owners that are previewing the program currently buy into it.
I'm not sure if he is saying there are 300 unit-weeks from EACH property, or 300 total. We can do some arithmetic on this:... There are nine properties with approximately 300 units/weeks that went into PP inventory. Currently there are no units that have been deposited from Breckenridge, Hawaii, Siesta Keys, or Beavercreek...
Hmmm, 98% of legacy owners are buying into the HPP. That really would cause a case of intestinal blockage requiring immediate departure from the pitch....He further stated that 98% of current owners are not selling off their legacy units, but they are buying into the portfolio points program to give them more flexibility.