Will this Covid spread continue to level down?

[Brett]

Exactly. Most of the country doesn't have a coronavirus problem, unless you consider a few hundred deaths from a virus a problem. (Which we've never panicked about before.)

well shoot, then what's all the fuss ...
maybe this coronavirus pandemic thing is a bad dream or a hoax perpetrated on unpanicked Americans
ya think? ,

 

[Brett]

I can make an accurate prediction. There will not be any crowds in Times Square on 12/31/2020.

I would not bet against you

 

[davidvel]

well shoot, then what's all the fuss ...
maybe this coronavirus pandemic thing is a bad dream or a hoax perpetrated on unpanicked Americans
ya think? ,

No, that's silly.

When more than half the deaths are in only 3 states, and half the states have less than 500 deaths, yes, most of the country has fared very well against this contagion. Hopefully we have learned from mistakes in those densely packed states and institutions, and the numbers can remain relatively low for most of the country .

 

[Conan]

I also hope the numbers can remain relatively low in the rest of the country, but early reports aren’t great.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/24/coronavirus-rural-america-outbreaks/

 

[Brett]

No, that's silly.

When more than half the deaths are in only 3 states, and half the states have less than 500 deaths, yes, most of the country has fared very well against this contagion. Hopefully we have learned from mistakes in those densely packed states and institutions, and the numbers can remain relatively low for most of the country .

yes, most of the coronavirus deaths are in populated states and most people infected survived, indeed most of us "fared very well" during the pandemic ..................... so to speak

 

[Monykalyn]

All kidding aside I would bet my money that the masks were not always worn Or not worn properly. I could see them being taken off when mixing dyes in a separate area, bathrooms, breakrooms, and elsewhere just to get a breathe of air.

I'd bet you are correct. And therein lies the problem with the masking situation: there wasn't a cohesive comprehensive information program on what type (if homemade), how to wear, why, how to take on/off , why fit is important etc.. No wonder people are confused with varying compliance.

 

[Rolltydr]

yes, most of the coronavirus deaths are in populated states and most people infected survived, indeed most of us "fared very well" during the pandemic ..................... so to speak

View attachment 21290

A map, with context. So, more people get Covid19, and die from it, in cities where the most people live? And, somehow, this shows it’s not really a serious problem? Smdh!

 

[Monykalyn]

I also hope the numbers can remain relatively low in the rest of the country, but early reports aren’t great.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/24/coronavirus-rural-america-outbreaks/

paywall
looking up the rural counties in random sampling with both hard hit urban and mostly rural...well the trackers I've looked at don't show overwhelming. Of course you go from one case to 2 and it's a 100% increase In a county of 2700 people this is not an overwhelming amount.

 

[TravelTime]

This story is making big news

Pool party at Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri draws a packed crowd | CNN

Video posted by a reporter shows partiers crowded together in a pool at the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, this Memorial Day weekend.

www.cnn.com

 

[fillde]

This story is making big news

Pool party at Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri draws a packed crowd | CNN

Video posted by a reporter shows partiers crowded together in a pool at the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, this Memorial Day weekend.

www.cnn.com

San Francisco.
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/memorial-day-weekend-draws-big-crowds-to-san-francisco-parks/

 

[Cornell]

Man Not Sure He Can Take Another 6 Weeks Of Barely Following CDC Guidelines

ST. LOUIS—Following more than a month of halfhearted adherence to guidelines put in place to combat Covid-19, local man Luke Bradley confirmed Friday that he was unsure if he could take another six weeks of barely adopting practices recommended by the Centers for Disease Control. “I honestly...

local.theonion.com

(And yes, this is satire)

 

[PigsDad]

San Francisco.
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/memorial-day-weekend-draws-big-crowds-to-san-francisco-parks/
View attachment 21293

I don't know -- that picture doesn't look that bad to me. First off, it's outside so that is a lower risk. Second, it looks like most groups are staying 6+ feet apart from other groups. And third, all the individual groups are small, most less than 5 people each.

The pictures of the pool party mentioned above are much, much worse.

Kurt

 

[billymach4]

The pool bar is just plain ignorance.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

May I ask this one question? What is going to happen on New Year's Eve around the world on January 1, 2021?

What will Time Square in New York City look liked, or London, or Paris, or Moscow, or Tokyo, South Africa, or Brazil. COVID-19 you have created one huge problem on earth. IMHO.

We are likely going to do what we did last year . Watch TV & fall asleep,

 

[spirits]

I'd bet you are correct. And therein lies the problem with the masking situation: there wasn't a cohesive comprehensive information program on what type (if homemade), how to wear, why, how to take on/off , why fit is important etc.. No wonder people are confused with varying compliance.

I just read an article where they are saying that the test of masks was only started in 2003 after the SAR's outbreak....and the result of the testing was only completed last year. This is all new and as the virus moves across the world, the science is playing catchup. Please err on the side of caution.

 

[fillde]

I don't know -- that picture doesn't look that bad to me.
Kurt

Personally, I like to to keep a 5-6 distance to prevent exposure to potentially an asymptomatic person. I’m not being judge-mental. Just cautious.

 

[Brett]

This story is making big news

Pool party at Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri draws a packed crowd | CNN

Video posted by a reporter shows partiers crowded together in a pool at the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, this Memorial Day weekend.

www.cnn.com

Personally, I like to to keep a 5-6 distance to prevent exposure to potentially an asymptomatic person. I’m not being judge-mental. Just cautious.

sounds reasonable

unlike these beach goers yesterday

 

[beejaybee]

Back to the MO hairdressers....
Contact tracing will be so helpful in understanding better the transmission of C-19. Reportedly in the first case both stylist and clients wore masks. That stylist was symptomatic throughout her working days. It will be enlightening to learn how many customers contracted C-19 and whether they were asymptomatic, mildly symptomatic, required hospitalization, required ventilators. Wouldn't it be great if no patron contracted the virus?

And re: the partiers....
Here in Ohio I've driven by some restaurants and been able to see how busy the patios are. IMHO just a glance shows me that social distancing is moot.

 

[Panina]

Back to the MO hairdressers....
Contact tracing will be so helpful in understanding better the transmission of C-19. Reportedly in the first case both stylist and clients wore masks. That stylist was symptomatic throughout her working days. It will be enlightening to learn how many customers contracted C-19 and whether they were asymptomatic, mildly symptomatic, required hospitalization, required ventilators. Wouldn't it be great if no patron contracted the virus?

And re: the partiers....
Here in Ohio I've driven by some restaurants and been able to see how busy the patios are. IMHO just a glance shows me that social distancing is moot.

Customer that went to this salon said this in this article
“ Chase visited the Great Clips in Springfield on May 17, where he saw all customers were wearing masks, but some stylists who were not. He added that the stylist who cut his hair was not wearing gloves. Health officials previously stated that both stylists, as well as all their clients, wore masks”

Customer speaks out on possible coronavirus exposure at Missouri hair salon

A customer who was potentially exposed to the coronavirus at a Great Clips in Missouri is speaking out after two hairstylists at the barbershop reportedly worked with COVID-19 symptoms before testing positive for the virus.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Monykalyn]

Customer that went to this salon said this in this article
“ Chase visited the Great Clips in Springfield on May 17, where he saw all customers were wearing masks, but some stylists who were not. He added that the stylist who cut his hair was not wearing gloves. Health officials previously stated that both stylists, as well as all their clients, wore masks”

Customer speaks out on possible coronavirus exposure at Missouri hair salon

A customer who was potentially exposed to the coronavirus at a Great Clips in Missouri is speaking out after two hairstylists at the barbershop reportedly worked with COVID-19 symptoms before testing positive for the virus.

www.foxnews.com

Back to the MO hairdressers....
Contact tracing will be so helpful in understanding better the transmission of C-19. Reportedly in the first case both stylist and clients wore masks. That stylist was symptomatic throughout her working days. It will be enlightening to learn how many customers contracted C-19 and whether they were asymptomatic, mildly symptomatic, required hospitalization, required ventilators. Wouldn't it be great if no patron contracted the virus?

And re: the partiers....
Here in Ohio I've driven by some restaurants and been able to see how busy the patios are. IMHO just a glance shows me that social distancing is moot.

And the stories are so inconsistent-one positively states "worked while positive" like they knew, one states one stylist worked with symptoms then another article both worked with symptoms, not a single actual identifiable fact: Did they have symptoms and when, who did they talk to about symptoms, WHAT were there symptoms (I live here and allergies have been BAD this spring!!). WHEN did the positive test come back and where they told to NOT work while tests pending? Was the 2nd stylist tested because of "symptoms" or because exposure and then found positive? I didn't get a test when I had the symptoms but NO fever in Urgent care a week ago (plus I had the congestion from allergies). Seriously I am sick of media making stuff up as they go without facts and letting the pitchforks come out. And the glove thing- whatevs.
And that stupid bar-those swim up bars are just GROSS anyway bleh. I am surprised they didn't limit capacity at all; they are huge money makers and too many of the fun resorts around there have installed them now-so instead of a nice lake view while listening to a reggae band while watching the sunset you get drunk parties. We quit going to so many of our favorites for this reason.

 

[Cornell]

@Monykalyn Could not agree w/you more about media making things up as they go . About 6 weeks ago, a teenager died in our school district. Terrible. The parents told the district he died from C19. Then the school district sent an email out to all families which this was mentioned. Panic ensued , further scaring parents into the idea that school is not safe and that children are vulnerable. Later on , the family informed that the student died from other causes.

 

[DeniseM]

Cornell - Your post above has nothing to do with the "media making things up," or the topic of this thread. Your post says that the family made a mistake and that the school district fulfilled their mandatory obligation to inform parents that there was a serious illness in the school.

Please stop interjecting your socially contentious opinions into every thread possible.

TUG POSTING RULES: Avoid posting about politics, religion, or contentious social issues. Unless directly related to timesharing, such discussions are prohibited in these forums, including TUG Lounge. We've been down that road before, it was ugly, and we are not going there again.

 

[DeniseM]

Everyone: Some of you have found the high road to be too high - try harder.

Post #2 in this thread: Folks - This thread could go either way, please take the high road.

 

[billymach4]

Forgive me but I had to look it up.

Take the High Road - Idiom, Origin & Meaning

As a content creator and full-time fiction author dealing with readers, industry professionals, and other authors in my community, I find myself taking the high road quite a bit. People can be so mean and

grammarist.com

Take the high road

• 
  

To take the high road is an American phrase which means to approach an endeavor or problem in a fashion that is above pettiness, to travel the moral high ground, to behave decently. The phrase to take the high road came into popular use during the American presidential campaign of 1948, Thomas Dewey claiming to take the high road against Truman’s campaign tactics.

take the high road
When you 'take the high road' - it means doing the right thing even if its not popular or easy.

Just a reminder as Denise is trying to maintain some decorum here. I appreciate the courteous content.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

With more localities opening up, more people starting to get back to work, travel, beaches, religious gatherings. Yes these are all good things and activities that will support the economy and make us feel normal.

Unfortunately in my opinion the virus is continuing to spread in the US and will start to ramp up again.
We are starting to see the spread increase in certain locations again.

Just saying.

Hi billymach4

As I understand it - a reduction in overall transmission rate requires that in macro numbers - for each 100 people infected fewer than 100 get the virus from the first group .

Whereas if 100 infected people become 200 become 400 / become 800 - pretty soon you have a really big problem .

So “levelling down” requires preventing enough transmission that the number falls in each subsequent transmission cycle .

preventing transmission of a virus that spreads from asymptomatic carriers requires more than good luck .