Will this Covid spread continue to level down?

[DannyTS]

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how do you explain this:

Shouldn't epidemiologists revisit the case of Sweden? Hasn't their approach actually worked?

I have watched this thread with interest. I have family members who live half the year in Sweden (they are there now). They report that while it is not locked down people are following guidelines for social distancing, hand hygiene, and are wearing masks. The swedish seem much more willing to do...

tugbbs.com

 

[Brett]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/health/coronavirus-children-camp.html

 

[rapmarks]

I don’t see an end because everyone is making exceptions.
at our club in Florida, people going to the bar and grill are pulling in chairs and visiting because everyone in our community is careful and therefore safe. (Our community has almost 1000 homes)
in Wisconsin , I have two places to pick up food one quarter mile from my house. Neither will bring it out to the car. In both, people are lined up shoulder to shoulder at the bar, and a lot of these people are tourists staying at the timeshare. A lot of them are my neighbors. In one, the waitstaff is mask free, they all feel it is perfectly safe.

I noticed the golfing members keep having tournaments. They play and then gather for drinks.maybe 24 people, not wearing masks. One of them helps the community distribute food to the needy and many other helpful activities. The point is so much exposure!
I have socialized with my family. My sons family isolates, my daughter and her children isolate. However her boyfriend doesn’t believe in Covid. So I don’t visit very much.

 

[am1]

Makes me happy I can almost live in my own world and come I. Contact with very few people while still doing what I enjoy. In a 1000 home community no one is safe of interacting and everyone thinks their safe.

 

[Cornell]

I don’t see an end because everyone is making exceptions.
at our club in Florida, people going to the bar and grill are pulling in chairs and visiting because everyone in our community is careful and therefore safe. (Our community has almost 1000 homes)
in Wisconsin , I have two places to pick up food one quarter mile from my house. Neither will bring it out to the car. In both, people are lined up shoulder to shoulder at the bar, and a lot of these people are tourists staying at the timeshare. A lot of them are my neighbors. In one, the waitstaff is mask free, they all feel it is perfectly safe.

I noticed the golfing members keep having tournaments. They play and then gather for drinks.maybe 24 people, not wearing masks. One of them helps the community distribute food to the needy and many other helpful activities. The point is so much exposure!
I have socialized with my family. My sons family isolates, my daughter and her children isolate. However her boyfriend doesn’t believe in Covid. So I don’t visit very much.

What do you think is going to happen the mask order in Wisconsin? You think the courts will overturn? Lots of interesting politics up there.

 

[Brett]

Florida heads toward 500,000 COVID-19 cases; 62 more deaths reported

August 2 2020

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200802-o46a62nj2fbnrglkcffspuigui-story.html

but it might be leveling down ....

 

[rapmarks]

What do you think is going to happen the mask order in Wisconsin? You think the courts will overturn? Lots of interesting politics up there.

The deciding judge had been voted out of office when the vote occurred. The new judge took office August 1 so it probably won’t be overturned. However, I don’t see a lot of mask wearers, I don’t think it will change, and police have already said they will not enforce

 

[Cornell]

The deciding judge had been voted out of office when the vote occurred. The new judge took office August 1 so it probably won’t be overturned. However, I don’t see a lot of mask wearers, I don’t think it will change, and police have already said they will not enforce

Good update... thank you

 

[rapmarks]

A couple of weeks ago, the general manager of Noah’s Ark was let go . he had written a letter to county board on Noah’s ark letterhead against mask ordinance, calling masks the sign of the beast. noahs ark closed Friday after two workers tested positive for Covid

 

[PigsDad]

A couple of weeks ago, the general manager of Noah’s Ark was let go . he had written a letter to county board on Noah’s ark letterhead against mask ordinance, calling masks the sign of the beast. noahs ark closed Friday after two workers tested positive for Covid

You can't fix stupid.

Kurt

 

[Rolltydr]

A couple of weeks ago, the general manager of Noah’s Ark was let go . he had written a letter to county board on Noah’s ark letterhead against mask ordinance, calling masks the sign of the beast. noahs ark closed Friday after two workers tested positive for Covid

Were there a lot of people in 1941-1945 that thought WW2 was a hoax? I just don’t get it and I guess I should stop wasting my time thinking about it.

 

[Rolltydr]

Not a hoax.

Bill Montgomery, co-founder of Turning Point USA, dies

Montgomery was praised for his devotion to his friends and TPUSA

www.foxnews.com

Pro-Trump youth group TPUSA deleted a tweet mocking protective masks after its cofounder died of the coronavirus

The tweet, a meme mocking "leftists" for advocating protective masks, was posted the same day Bill Montgomery's death was announced.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Brett]

A couple of weeks ago, the general manager of Noah’s Ark was let go . he had written a letter to county board on Noah’s ark letterhead against mask ordinance, calling masks the sign of the beast. noahs ark closed Friday after two workers tested positive for Covid

In Virginia some people consider wearing a mask a sign of the "beast'

https://wset.com/news/local/local-pastor-weighs-in-on-controversial-sign-outside-neighboring-church

 

[Conan]

Ed Yong's comprehensive article on how we got here:

"The United States has correctly castigated China for its duplicity and the WHO for its laxity—but the U.S. has also failed the international community."
....
"As the coronavirus established itself in the U.S., it found a nation through which it could spread easily, without being detected. For years, Pardis Sabeti, a virologist at the Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT, has been trying to create a surveillance network that would allow hospitals in every major U.S. city to quickly track new viruses through genetic sequencing. Had that network existed, once Chinese scientists published SARS‑CoV‑2’s genome on January 11, every American hospital would have been able to develop its own diagnostic test in preparation for the virus’s arrival. 'I spent a lot of time trying to convince many funders to fund it,' Sabeti told me. 'I never got anywhere.'”

How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[TravelTime]

Ed Yong's comprehensive article on how we got here:

"The United States has correctly castigated China for its duplicity and the WHO for its laxity—but the U.S. has also failed the international community."
....
"As the coronavirus established itself in the U.S., it found a nation through which it could spread easily, without being detected. For years, Pardis Sabeti, a virologist at the Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT, has been trying to create a surveillance network that would allow hospitals in every major U.S. city to quickly track new viruses through genetic sequencing. Had that network existed, once Chinese scientists published SARS‑CoV‑2’s genome on January 11, every American hospital would have been able to develop its own diagnostic test in preparation for the virus’s arrival. 'I spent a lot of time trying to convince many funders to fund it,' Sabeti told me. 'I never got anywhere.'”

How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.

www.theatlantic.com

I just saw this article. Its first paragraph sums up my thoughts exactly.

How did it come to this? A virus a thousand times smaller than a dust mote has humbled and humiliated the planet’s most powerful nation. America has failed to protect its people, leaving them with illness and financial ruin. It has lost its status as a global leader. It has careened between inaction and ineptitude. The breadth and magnitude of its errors are difficult, in the moment, to truly fathom.

 

[Panina]

I just saw this article. It’s first paragraph sums up my thoughts exactly.

How did it come to this? A virus a thousand times smaller than a dust mote has humbled and humiliated the planet’s most powerful nation. America has failed to protect its people, leaving them with illness and financial ruin. It has lost its status as a global leader. It has careened between inaction and ineptitude. The breadth and magnitude of its errors are difficult, in the moment, to truly fathom.

Eliminate “most powerful nation” , replace ” THE WORLD where it says America, etc, etc, etc.

It amazes me how both sides here on TUG are politicizing this. It is a world pandemic. Unless everyone locks themselves in, never leaving home, it will spread. and then how do you get food to people? Medical care? Etc.? The more people, the more open borders like our states, the more spread. We are a democracy, you can’t force people to do what they don’t want to, even if it is smart. Easy to blame nation, governments, politicians, everyone else.

Those who complain should offer an alternative solution that works. Oh there isn’t one.

 

[TravelTime]

The article described many of the things we could have done to reduce and/or eliminate the virus had we acted early. This outcome did not have to happen. Instead our government minimized the virus and set a bad example by not wearing masks. The USA is doing much worse than it should be. 4% world population but 25% of covid cases. It is not only the USA that botched its response but there were many things this country did wrong from the beginning that would have changed the outcome. I do not think it is political to complain about the government‘s response to Covid. We already know all of this. I am just venting.

 

[Karen G]

We already know all of this. I am just venting.

14 pages of venting is about enough, I think.

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