[Closed - new thread started] Will Hawaii Open by [OCTOBER???] [Please use this thread for all Hawaii Coronavirus discussions]

[slip]

Any clues given when a decision on whether to move the Oct 1 date to Nov 1?

There will be another announcement tomorrow but it wasn’t specific if that would be announced.

 

[slip]

Mayor extends stay-at-home order, but reopens parks and beaches for solo activities

“The one thing we’re not going to do a second time is rush to reopen and then have a second spike."

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

He also said they are basing decisions on at least a 7 day average of new case numbers and that a 14 day average is probably better so those averages are the numbers that they are looking at.

 

[csodjd]

There will be another announcement tomorrow but it wasn’t specific if that would be announced.

I realized that this announcement came from the Mayor of Honolulu. The travel rules are coming from the Governor.

 

[slip]

I realized that this announcement came from the Mayor of Honolulu. The travel rules are coming from the Governor.

The Governor is talking right now.

 

[csodjd]

He also said they are basing decisions on at least a 7 day average of new case numbers and that a 14 day average is probably better so those averages are the numbers that they are looking at.

I did see that he said they are looking for "sustained" lower case rates. Makes sense. Here is more "good" news (good in quote because I'm not sure how it's affected by the holiday weekend and reduced testing). If the Rt is, in fact, 0.89, that means the infection rate is dropping. A sustained rate of below 1.0 will result in reduction of new cases.

 

[slip]

I did see that he said they are looking for "sustained" lower case rates. Makes sense. Here is more "good" news (good in quote because I'm not sure how it's affected by the holiday weekend and reduced testing). If the Rt is, in fact, 0.89, that means the infection rate is dropping. A sustained rate of below 1.0 will result in reduction of new cases.

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The Mayor said the re-opening will be very slow and cautious. The Governor was talking about rent and mortgage relief today. We’ll see if he talks about re-opening travel tomorrow. That still might not come until next week.

 

[jabberwocky]

I wonder if they will treat the different islands separately from each other. Maui seems to be doing very well overall? You could almost make the case that transpacific travel to OGG could be opened up with preflight testing. Oahu and BI are definitely no go right now and I would expect them to be extended.

This would give the state a chance to see how the pre-test protocols work and whether they are effective on a smaller scale.

 

[PearlCity]

I wonder if they will treat the different islands separately from each other. Maui seems to be doing very well overall? You could almost make the case that transpacific travel to OGG could be opened up with preflight testing. Oahu and BI are definitely no go right now and I would expect them to be extended.

This would give the state a chance to see how the pre-test protocols work and whether they are effective on a smaller scale.

Yup i agree. I think maui and kauai should open up thier econimies shouldn't suffer because of the other counties.

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[slip]

But both of those islands have extremely limited bed space for hospitals. I wouldn’t think they would do that but we’ll see.

 

[frank808]

Stay at home order extended on Oahu for another 14 days till Sept 24.

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[frank808]

Observation I have made over the past couple weeks.

I average about 2 calls a day asking what time I will be opening store. I have to constantly say that it is closed due to the stay at home order for non essential business. My business is sporting goods, so definitely non essential. When I mention it to callers they have no idea of the stay at home order. So either most people ignore it or are oblivious to it

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[critterchick]

I finally threw in the towel on our October 3 visit. I'm stubbornly hanging on to our late November/early December and February/March bookings, though. I haven't been brave enough to book flights in February, though (I booked November before all this hit the fan).

 

[Fredflintstone]

Right now Trans-Pacific flights to Hawaii require a 14 day quarantine. Starting October 1st, the quarantine can be avoided with a negative test no more than 3 days before arrival. But, that was supposed to start September 1st and was moved back. Many people believe it will be pushed back again.

I agree with the many @slip. I’ll bet you a drink whenever I can safely get to Hawaii that it’s extended to November 1st. We should know the answer in a week or so. The Canada US land border is closed and we too have a required 14 day quarantine upon return. That would mean 28 days quarantine. No thanks.


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[slip]

I agree with the many @slip. I’ll bet you a drink whenever I can safely get to Hawaii that it’s extended to November 1st. We should know the answer in a week or so. The Canada US land border is closed and we too have a required 14 day quarantine upon return. That would mean 28 days quarantine. No thanks.


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They were asking and I probably shouldn’t have put that last sentence in there. Your or my thoughts make no difference in the decision that will be made.

 

[Fredflintstone]

They were asking and I probably shouldn’t have put that last sentence in there. Your or my thoughts make no difference in the decision that will be made.

Yes, it’s not up to us for sure.


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[csodjd]

Observation I have made over the past couple weeks.

I average about 2 calls a day asking what time I will be opening store. I have to constantly say that it is closed due to the stay at home order for non essential business. My business is sporting goods, so definitely non essential. When I mention it to callers they have no idea of the stay at home order. So either most people ignore it or are oblivious to it

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Sad and scary.

 

[jabberwocky]

Observation I have made over the past couple weeks.

I average about 2 calls a day asking what time I will be opening store. I have to constantly say that it is closed due to the stay at home order for non essential business. My business is sporting goods, so definitely non essential. When I mention it to callers they have no idea of the stay at home order. So either most people ignore it or are oblivious to it

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It might not be that far-out of a question. Some jurisdictions consider sporting goods stores essential due to the fact that they sell hunting and fishing supplies (or maybe I'm thinking of a different kind of sporting good store).

 

[frank808]

Different sporting goods for a specific team sport. My goods would be about as non essential as there is.

Fishing supply stores are open as they supply the commercial fishing trade which is essential.

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[csodjd]

There are slight modifications for outdoor activities. Parks, beaches and trails will reopen to allow for solo activities, including reading, meditating, eating lunch, jogging and sitting on the beach alone, the mayor said at a news conference at Honolulu Hale.

“One thing we’re not going to do a second time is rush to reopen and then have another spike and have that occur during the holiday season,” Caldwell said.

VIDEO: Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell extends stay-at-home, work-from-home order, with modifications | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

UPDATE: 1:05 p.m.

www.staradvertiser.com

I thought it was curious in one respect... “Sorry honey, you’ll have to go sit over there.” That’ll go well with your wife.

 

[JanT]

I thought that same thing - how strange it would be to go to the beach with my husband and have to sit apart from him.

I thought it was curious in one respect... “Sorry honey, you’ll have to go sit over there.” That’ll go well with your wife.

 

[rickandcindy23]

We are going in February no matter what. I saw an article that says they are hoping to open up to tourists for the holidays. I hope they do, but in any case, the virus will not be gone completely, so I expect the self-quarantine to stay in place.

What could happen is our resort may not be open for us to visit in February. Hono Koa is a small resort with 27 units, and if I can go there and sit on the lanai, I would be a happy camper indeed. Also Sands of Kahana may not be willing to have us there in February. That is a big resort. I think a lot of resorts are closed, but we get no information about Soleil-managed resorts.

 

[slip]

We are going in February no matter what. I saw an article that says they are hoping to open up to tourists for the holidays. I hope they do, but in any case, the virus will not be gone completely, so I expect the self-quarantine to stay in place.

What could happen is our resort may not be open for us to visit in February. Hono Koa is a small resort with 27 units, and if I can go there and sit on the lanai, I would be a happy camper indeed. Also Sands of Kahana may not be willing to have us there in February. That is a big resort. I think a lot of resorts are closed, but we get no information about Soleil-managed resorts.

Best thing to do is call and check and specifically ask if you can quarantine there if you need to.

 

[magmue]

I'm still holding out hope for the holidays too. We have a week booked at KBV from Dec 20-27 followed by 10 days at Kingsland. When we made the plans back in April/May, it seemed totally reasonable. Now it's feeling like a long shot.

 

[csodjd]

Latest data is promising. 100 new cases reported. Here is the graph. Give it another 1-2 weeks.

 

[dsmrp]

I doubt the Honolulu police patrolling the beaches are going to cite a couple sitting together on the beach. We went to Ft DeRussy end of Waikiki last week for 2 days. There was a small family with children digging in the sand, and other scattered couples and solos on the beach, when no one was supposed to be lounging. The police officer who drove by was more concerned about the 4-5 guys talking by the outdoor showers.