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[Closed - new thread started] Will Hawaii Open by [OCTOBER???] [Please use this thread for all Hawaii Coronavirus discussions]

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This won't change anyone's minds, but it is nonetheless a testimony to the effectiveness of the orders in place. Not too long ago Hawaii was the furthest right on this chart reflecting the highest Rt value in the United States. Today it is the lowest, meaning a single infected person is spreading the disease to the fewest others of any state in the US. It has gone from ~1.29 about 8 weeks ago (which means exponential growth in cases) to 0.80 today. A value below 1.0 reflects the disease going away.

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It’s good to see progress. I’m particularly impressed with the effectiveness that lockdown orders have had in the states immediately to the right of HI in this chart.
 

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It’s good to see progress. I’m particularly impressed with the effectiveness that lockdown orders have had in the states immediately to the right of HI in this chart.
The problem with the graph is that it's describing what already happened and is limited in predictive value because, for instance, a few big Labor Day parties leading to 200 new cases won't show up on it for a couple weeks. So, grain of salt is in order. But it does show the good results that have occurred so far.
 

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I'm thinking about closing this thread when the quarantine is extended to Nov. 1, and starting a new Hawaii C19 discussion thread, if you guys like that idea? Please use the like button if you think it's a good idea, like Luanne did.
 
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66 new cases reported today, down from 80 yesterday, and continuing the downward march. The very good news, as I see it, is that we are now 8 days past Labor Day, 8-10 past the weekend, and so Labor Day bad behavior should be mostly in the data by now.

The 7-day moving average is 118 new cases. Infection rate steady at 2.2%. 7-day hospitalizations at 8%. All very good numbers. Seems clear that Hawaii is out of its uncontrolled spread and now winding down back to low levels. My guess is the governor extends to Nov 1 for the sole reason that he wants to see if they can open up and maintain these levels. He needs 2-3 weeks after the opening for that, and that puts him well past Oct. 1 to know.

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Based on this (and a dose of reality and common sense) I've finally tossed in the white towel and canceled the Oct 26 HGVC Lagoon Tower reservations, and rebooked for Jan 25. Hopefully that puts some air and space into the plans to allow a Nov 1 or even Dec 1 opening, along with time for some of Waikiki to reopen.
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What options exist for those who arrive only to discover days later that they are C19 positive? They can’t fly home. Where do they stay? What does this cost? Who pays?


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What options exist for those who arrive only to discover days later that they are C19 positive? They can’t fly home. Where do they stay? What does this cost? Who pays?


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Exactly why if/when we go we are determined to self-quarantine for at least 5-7 days before testing so by arrival in Hawaii we're about 9-10 days out and either should have symptoms already or, if asymptomatic, already at the end of contagion per the CDC. If some quarantine is required to make it safe, I'd rather do it at home than in Hawaii!
 

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Based on this (and a dose of reality and common sense) I've finally tossed in the white towel and canceled the Oct 26 HGVC Lagoon Tower reservations, and rebooked for Jan 25. Hopefully that puts some air and space into the plans to allow a Nov 1 or even Dec 1 opening, along with time for some of Waikiki to reopen.
I thought HHV announced that it was closed till at least Nov 15? My friend owns a restaurant at HHV and they might not reopen. They are closed indefinitely but he has to still pay rent. He is not even allowed onto HHV property to do anything at his restaurant.

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I thought HHV announced that it was closed till at least Nov 15? My friend owns a restaurant at HHV and they might not reopen. They are closed indefinitely but he has to still pay rent. He is not even allowed onto HHV property to do anything at his restaurant.

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It's not clear. It appears you cannot make a reservation before Dec 15. But on Sept. 4 I was able to make a reservation for Oct-Nov. I just canceled that this morning, but HGVC had not canceled it, so as of this morning they still had that reservation on the books. Most I can say is that HHV has been unclear in their situation.
 

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I'm thinking about closing this thread when the quarantine is extended to Nov. 1, and starting a new Hawaii C19 discussion thread, if you guys like that idea? Please use the like button if you think it's a good idea, like Luanne did.
I like that you said "WHEN" since you kind of know that it will be extended. Perhaps you should just call it "When will Hawaii Open", that way if it gets extended again and again you won't need to close it. However, I do get the impression from reading the last statement from Governor Ige that he finally got it that extending it over and over is NOT good for Hawaii. He may extend it more than a month to say December 1 and make sure that everything is in place for an opening before the Holidays no matter what.
 
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