Thread Dedicated to the Upcoming/Anticipated Integration of Vistana and Marriott Ownerships

[DanCali]

Not sure that I've seen Elite levels referred to as "VIP" before.

I asked to speak with a supervisor yesterday and was on hold for about 20 minutes - didn't quite feel like I got the "VIP" treatment! (although the supervisor was helpful once I finally got her on the line)

 

[dioxide45]

Hybrid owner could refer to owning both MVC and Vistana. It's how they pitched it to me at two different MVC presentations in 2019 as a way to guarantee access to the combined program. Since they don't sell Vistana ownership, they pitched you DC points to take the Elite (VIP) route instead, 4000 getting you to Select level. We have no independent confirmation from Marriott yet whether what are saying is true.

Exactly my point. MVC long considered "hybrid" to be an enrolled weeks owner with Trust Points. Now they pitch it as a Vistana and Marriott owner. No where in the documentation for the program is "hybrid" mentioned. It is a term meant to sell you on emotion, not on logic.

 

[Dean]

Not sure that I've seen Elite levels referred to as "VIP" before.

I asked to speak with a supervisor yesterday and was on hold for about 20 minutes - didn't quite feel like I got the "VIP" treatment! (although the supervisor was helpful once I finally got her on the line)

Technically they're called "Owner Benefit Levels". Elite actually refers to Bonvoy. I personally have used the term VIP interchangeably for MVC. Whether one feels like a VIP really doesn't matter IMO no different than if one feels Elite.

 

[Steve Fatula]

I asked to speak with a supervisor yesterday and was on hold for about 20 minutes - didn't quite feel like I got the "VIP" treatment! (although the supervisor was helpful once I finally got her on the line)

But, but, your call is very important!

 

[catharsis]

The hold time when calling "MVC4VIP" is very definitely different than when calling the non-chairmans club line... so this at least tacitly an official designation.

 

[TravelTime]

Does folks think they are enhancing Chairman’s Level and that is why the online system is having problems?

 

[dioxide45]

Does folks think they are enhancing Chairman’s Level and that is why the online system is having problems?

Doubtful. I was getting some 500 errors just trying to access the profile page. Likely database issues and timeouts.

 

[korndoc]

The salesman told me “hybrid “ referred to owning a week plus owning separately purchased Trust points. And having a total of 4000 combined points brings me to VIP status. Either hybrid or VIP status would allow me to reserve a Westin or other Vistana property.

 

[dioxide45]

The hold time when calling "MVC4VIP" is very definitely different than when calling the non-chairmans club line... so this at least tacitly an official designation.

That phone number and "VIP Weekends" seem to be the only reference to it. I can't find "VIP" referenced anywhere in the MVC Exchange Procedures document.

 

[dioxide45]

The salesman told me “hybrid “ referred to owning a week plus owning separately purchased Trust points. And having a total of 4000 combined points brings me to VIP status. Either hybrid or VIP status would allow me to reserve a Westin or other Vistana property.

"Hybrid" is a meaningless term with no real definition. It can't be found anywhere in the MVC Exchange Procedures document. We also don't know of any official qualifications to be able to book a Vistana property with DC Club Points. It was all a sales trick to sell more points.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Cannot log into Marriott site today. Hmmm...

 

[dioxide45]

Cannot log into Marriott site today. Hmmm...

I have been able to login. But can't navigate very well. Sometimes I can get to the profile page, more times I can't. I was able to do a chat earlier. I haven't tried searching availability.

 

[TravelTime]

I know the new program will be announced in June. Does anyone have an idea if it will be early, mid or late June?

 

[dioxide45]

I know the new program will be announced in June. Does anyone have an idea if it will be early, mid or late June?

I have seen late June reported more often. I predice June 19th or 26th.

 

[dougp26364]

I have seen late June reported more often. I predice June 19th or 26th.

What year?

 

[Pucelle]

I sat through a presentation May 6th at Ko'Olina. In the presentation paperwork they have, everything goes until June 29th and June 30th is the start of whatever the new system will be. I found that to be such an odd date, why not just go to June 30th and start the new program July 1st?

 

[dougp26364]

I sat through a presentation May 6th at Ko'Olina. In the presentation paperwork they have, everything goes until June 29th and June 30th is the start of whatever the new system will be. I found that to be such an odd date, why not just go to June 30th and start the new program July 1st?

Perhaps there’s something magical about the 6 months mark?

June 30th is a Thursday. Maybe they want to make sure the IT department is available on a weekday so when the bugs appear they’re not on weekend time trying to fix it? Could also have to do with web site traffic. Maybe Thursday is a slower day and there will less disruption.

 

[dsmrp]

Or maybe Marriott-MVC's fiscal year begins July 1st, and there's a large accounting/tax advantage for having new program begin in the current fiscal year 2022.

MVC IT will be told to support whatever date, day of the week the execs decide on. ( I worked in IT, and financial concerns ruled. )

 

[JIMinNC]

Or maybe Marriott-MVC's fiscal year begins July 1st, and there's a large accounting/tax advantage for having new program begin in the current fiscal year 2022.

MVC IT will be told to support whatever date, day of the week the execs decide on. ( I worked in IT, and financial concerns ruled. )

Marriott Vacations Worldwide is on a calendar year fiscal year - Jan 1-Dec 31.

 

[wuv pooh]

At my presentation yesterday the sales rep was able to show that the resorts are in the system and that initial points and point charts are in the system. Not allowed to review the charts since they are not final, but they are clearly getting close if they can solve their other IT issues.

 

[dougp26364]

At my presentation yesterday the sales rep was able to show that the resorts are in the system and that initial points and point charts are in the system. Not allowed to review the charts since they are not final, but they are clearly getting close if they can solve their other IT issues.

This gives me hope that maybe there might be new places to explore beginning in 2024 for us. My 2023 plans are pretty much laid out. By the time they get the new options loaded I’ll have everything booked for 2023 that I I tend to book with MVW with the exception of December, and December is either south Florida or Hawaii. MVW has great options in both locations, so adding ILG does little for us when making 2023 plans

Of course we’ve had that hope for the last few years……So there’s that

 

[kozykritter]

At my presentation yesterday the sales rep was able to show that the resorts are in the system and that initial points and point charts are in the system. Not allowed to review the charts since they are not final, but they are clearly getting close if they can solve their other IT issues.

Interesting! Did they mention what those other IT issues were?

 

[TravelTime]

This gives me hope that maybe there might be new places to explore beginning in 2024 for us. My 2023 plans are pretty much laid out. By the time they get the new options loaded I’ll have everything booked for 2023 that I I tend to book with MVW with the exception of December, and December is either south Florida or Hawaii. MVW has great options in both locations, so adding ILG does little for us when making 2023 plans

Of course we’ve had that hope for the last few years……So there’s that

Are the new resorts all the Vistana resorts? Anything new other than Vistana? Have you heard how much in advance the Vistana resorts will be able to be booked? 13 months? 12 months?

 

[dougp26364]

Are the new resorts all the Vistana resorts? Anything new other than Vistana? Have you heard how much in advance the Vistana resorts will be able to be booked? 13 months? 12 months?

The only things I’ve heard are on this site. We’ve spoken with salesmen and we’ve actually purchased enough points/deeds to go from executive to presidential to chairman level….. but that was for our own wants/needs/desires within MVW and without concern for whatever the merger may or may not bring.

Judging by what’s been reported by others, everything with ILG EXCEPT for Hyatt/Welk properties should be available based on what’s deposited into the DC points pool. Per this site it sounds as if all unsold inventory will automatically become part of the trust and there will be no more deeds sold, with the possible exception of deeds being resold directly by MVW from owners using their sales department to get rid of their unwanted timeshare deeds (bundle packages of re-sale deed plus new points).

What will we really see? No one knows for certain. It does appear that the fog is clearing from the crystal ball and the information gleaned from the owners updates is more accurate than it’s been in the past.

 

[Dean]

Are the new resorts all the Vistana resorts? Anything new other than Vistana? Have you heard how much in advance the Vistana resorts will be able to be booked? 13 months? 12 months?

My source tells me all Westin related options except the Bahama's and Avon, at least for now.