Well, I actually talked to someone at Eagle Village. They are still open and taking reservations. They are waiting for the final paperwork to be completed by the lawyers regarding the Oakes Group. Then the renovations will begin. The woman was very nice. I told them I would be using both my weeks, and they confirmed them. She said the recreation center is open, and the pier is still accessible to use. So, I guess I will go ahead and post them for rent again. It doesn't look like it is going to close this year. I'm just trying to give everyone a heads-up. I know many of you are hoping it closes, but it doesn't look like it will be this year.
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RCI Suspended Eagle Village Tamiment
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Yes, they still want our money and are attempting to operate. The issue is they have not been maintaining the property while giving themselves raises. I have emails with John Oakes directly where I offered them my free and clear deeded week. I was asked for deed info which I provided then told they'd be in touch later in the week, then next week, then next week, and now get no response. I believe John Oakes has cooled on the entire idea. The management/office staff are collecting their checks while our units rot away and RCI suspends our property. They haven't maintained the Facebook page, the website, the units, the grounds, or even answered most phone calls. It's a sinking ship unfortunately.
You hit the nail on the head. They have been taking our money and letting the units rot. I have posted numerous times about how horrible the reviews are on trip advisor and Yelp plus the fact RCI suspended them speaks volumes. Why was this allowed to go on for so long? Why did the board of directors let this go? It seems only fair that they should be held accountable for. They are the ones who broke the contract in my opinion because if we don't pay our maintenance fees, they send us to collections, yet what recourse do we have against them for not using the maintenance money for maintenance??
Gotta figure the positive reviews are either paid or EV staff given the actual photos. That may also be an issue for some of the posts on this board cheerleading for everyone to pay up their maintenance fees.
I’d like to ask that in the coming months those who hear from EV or a collection agency let everyone know what they are experiencing and the outcomes.
No, I'm not a cheerleader for the resort, or a paid EV staff. But if there is a chance to renovate this resort, would you want to jump ship just yet? I have actually used the resort recently. I rent it every year I don't use it. The quality of the units vary depending on location. I have 1064 which is one of the last ones built. Honestly, it does not look like some of those photos. I also know that the resort is in trouble due to loss of Maintenance Fees, first. The result is what we see now. Not some shady board taking the money instead of spending on the resort. The employees are not members and deserve a fair wage. Without employees, the place could not be open. So yes, I agree employees have probably gotten wages over up keep. And some should not have. But the bottom line is if there are no MFs, a resort will fail. I don't blame anyone for not paying MFs in this situation. I just don't like all the anger, and I like to make judgements based on fact. Nobody set out to rip us off. We are all in this together, unfortunately. I still feel a year needs to pass to see if any real changes will occur. If not, it will close and we all get out without any legal ramifications. Lawyers will jump on this bandwagon and take what they can from owners. They will outline what they are doing and tell you it will take time and money. All the while they are just letting your units go into foreclosure and using the fees they charge you to cover costs. If the resort closes next year, all owners in good standing are relieved of financial responsibility without the cost of a lawyer or a credit hit. Those who don't pay will probably get a foreclosure notice and have to pay lawyer fees to the resort through Blackwell Recovery. Use reason, not anger to figure out what is best. Concord Servicing and Blackwell Recovery will be the ones making money, so rest assured they are happy this resort is failing. This is just my view, my opinion, my experience. If it makes sense, then fine. If not, fine also. But keep thing factual. I am an owner just like you.
There is a chance that Eagle Village can get an RCI reinstatement. RCI specified to Eagle Village what needs to be done for reinstatement. It is up to Eagle Village to let RCI know when they are ready for reevaluation.
In general, this process can take about a year to complete the upgrades and reevaluation. I shared the annual budget line items with RCI that relate to property maintenance and the potential plan for the Oakes group unit acquisitions and renovations. I asked that this information be sent up the RCI chain of command.
Even some units could be upgraded, they might be considered separate branches of Eagle Village such as Eagle Village 1 and 2 and possibly allow the RCI reinstatement while the rest of the properties are still being renovated. For this reason, it is possible that reinstatement could occur in less than a year.
From my perspective, what needs to be worked out is how owners can be made whole due to the property mismanagement and RCI suspension. If the property is currently essentially unusable, there must be some possible ways that Eagle Village can make property owners whole from their mismanagement of the resort quality. For example, Eagle Village might put this year's points on hold, or categorize them as bonus points, or provide stay options at a local hotel or resort they may have an agreement with. It would be ethical for Eagle Village to notify property owners of how they are going to handle this loss.
I have called Eagle Village many times to no answer, left voicemail messages, sent emails and tried to send them a fax which appears to be disabled. Their website doesn't appear to have been updated for many years. I plan to reach out to the Attorney General to see if they can provide some assistance.
In general, this process can take about a year to complete the upgrades and reevaluation. I shared the annual budget line items with RCI that relate to property maintenance and the potential plan for the Oakes group unit acquisitions and renovations. I asked that this information be sent up the RCI chain of command.
Even some units could be upgraded, they might be considered separate branches of Eagle Village such as Eagle Village 1 and 2 and possibly allow the RCI reinstatement while the rest of the properties are still being renovated. For this reason, it is possible that reinstatement could occur in less than a year.
From my perspective, what needs to be worked out is how owners can be made whole due to the property mismanagement and RCI suspension. If the property is currently essentially unusable, there must be some possible ways that Eagle Village can make property owners whole from their mismanagement of the resort quality. For example, Eagle Village might put this year's points on hold, or categorize them as bonus points, or provide stay options at a local hotel or resort they may have an agreement with. It would be ethical for Eagle Village to notify property owners of how they are going to handle this loss.
I have called Eagle Village many times to no answer, left voicemail messages, sent emails and tried to send them a fax which appears to be disabled. Their website doesn't appear to have been updated for many years. I plan to reach out to the Attorney General to see if they can provide some assistance.
Right, the employees, who one person said, they walked in the office and they were smoking pot (the employees) deserve to be paid. Of course they do, how else would they pay for their pot?
What came first, the chicken or the egg. In other words, did people quit paying maintenance fees because the maintenance was not being done? Or did people quit paying maintenance fees and Eagle Village could not do maintenance. Whatever the scenario, Eagle Village should have taken some sort of action before things got this bad.
Thank you for contacting the Attorney Generals Office. If more people can do the same, maybe we can get some outside help to get out of this.
The lack of maintenance appears to be an ongoing problem, it did not happen overnight if eagle village would have sent out information on what needed to be done and put it up to the owners to vote on either raising maintenance fees or another way of getting the maintenance done that would be one thing but there was a clear lack of communication for years the last time the website was updated I believe was 2013 I could be wrong but that's the date I saw on the website. I complained to the attorney general because it's odd that I've been paying maintenance all these years and all I hear from eagle village is once a year with a bill there is no other communication they put meetings at times where many people cannot go to and this day and age of Microsoft teams or zoom they don't even put it online where you could sit in on a meeting I find that odd it's like they're hiding something.
How would it work for the oaks group if they're putting all this money into eagle village to renovate units would they get first pick of these units or would these units simply Branch off from eagle village as a whole and be for the exclusive use of the oaks group was that addressed at the meeting
Carolinian
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I hope that the HOA BOD is well insured for directors liability coverage.
I have been thinking the same exact thing, why didn't they raise the maintenance fees if they needed more money? Why just let it go? I agree there is something else going on here.
There are a few possibilities In this situation. Some have a higher probability than others. Someone on the inside may have siphoned money over the years for personal use and tried to run under the radar. It could also be that someone was in charge that wasn't qualified to run the property and didn't have the knowledge to make the correct decisions, nor provide proper inspections or utilize a maintenance schedule. Luckily, banks keep meticulous records and our legal system, should an investigation be necessary, will find the truth. This underscores how helpful it would be for current owners in this situation to contact the Attorney general for assistance. Hopefully, there's a very simple explanation and the right steps will be followed to recover owners' loss from this situation.
I was looking at some of the reviews trying to see what the most recent ones were saying and it appears a lot of the good reviews they had recently didn't say anything it just was five stars no comments that's why a lot of people including me may feel that somebody's reviews were bought or AI
Sounds like the recent positive reviews can't be held as a viable status of the resort quality. There needs to be a third party inspection. Hopefully, enough owners have reached out to the Attorney General and maybe during fact finding they can initiate an honest inspection of the property.
The unusual reviews leads me to believe that one of the requirements from the checklist of RCI reinstatement rules is a certain number of positive reviews or some average star amount. The recent reviews may be an attempt at reaching a mandatory requirement. It could be a good sign that the resort is trying to accelerate reinstatement, but a but a bad sign that they are continuing to use inappropriate practices to manage the property.
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That will be concerning if they are getting friends and or family members to write positive reviews in order to get reinstated. I wonder if RCI ever does physical inspections before they reinstate?
I have looked many times at Trip Advisor. As a matter of fact, I just read a new one from March 2024, and the people said, they packed up and left after one night. This place is really starting to infuriated me. I looked up the local state representative for that area and calling tomorrow and asking them if they can do anything. Plus I am going to call their local municipality and see if they can send the code inspector out. I do not see why not, it I file a complaint with the township, they have to look into it.
Just looked at their review on Expedia and all of a sudden in 2024, there are a couple of new reviews that are giving excellent reviews. This is concerning because in order for RCI to reinstate them, they have to show improvements in their reviews. So you can pretty much say, they are having friends and family post fake reviews, which I think screams FRAUD!!
These sound like great courses of action. I also saw the recent TripAdvisor review and was appalled. It is completely unethical for Eagle Village to accept nearly two million dollars from owners and not follow through on their obligations while making visitor's vacation dreams a nightmare. They either need to renovate the property or close it. I hope that current property owners who are paying their maintenance fees continue to take whatever legal actions are necessary to resolve this.