RCI Suspended Eagle Village Tamiment

[mcara00]

So just wondering now that we have a little bit of an idea what is going on, what is everybody's thought about what we are going to do. Are you going to pay your maintenance fees or still continue riding it out and not paying them and see if they do anything.

Waiting it out for now. After all these years, risking an extra $20, 40 or even 185 to avoid giving away almost $800 dollars to a developer waiting in the wings to take over EV property seems like a reasonable risk for now. I may or may not pay later - I am organizing my finances prior to moving to a Continuing Care Community in the next two years, and so may need one more year of unblemished credit to get that done just in case EV comes after me (which I am not sure is a reasonable assumption they will given that they are likely to have lots of non-payers). However, at some point one needs to just cut the losses and stop throwing good money after a bad situation. Obviously lots and lots of EV owners have already walked away. Not paying appears to be the only leverage we have as a group to force better communication and possibly an offer to take the deeds rather than the time and expense of a judicial foreclosure.

If I were in Pocono Park’s situation I would definitely try to do what they are doing - get as many current owners as I could to pony up maintenance fees one more time to kick start my plans for EV - free money at a time of high interest rates. Great deal if you can get it. And I would have told owners exactly what was said at the meeting - “we’ll get RCI back by the spring” - conveniently after the MF’s are due.

 

[dioxide45]

So if eagle village is not for profit then where do they come up with two to $3,000 when you could register a deed with Pike county for $150 when I inherited my time share they gave a price I think it was about $2,000 to have it put in my name some of the fees were waived and I think it was $1,000 it was a while ago my question is in a deed back situation shouldn't the Price be only 150 dollars that you're signing it back to them who gets the rest of the money when they give the price of 2 to 3,000 is it the timeshare sales person that they use it just doesn't smell right to me the question of paying my maintenance fee I don't think I'll be paying it this year since I paid it all these years and it doesn't seem like they've done any maintenance on the properties the good reviews they get are few and far between and to be honest I think they're either paid for you see one set of people say all horrible it is and then some people say it's the most wonderful place on Earth even if you split the difference the bad reviews outweigh the good reviews you can't get a hold of anybody in the office if they really cared about the owners they would have made it a point to keep people abreast of the situation and giving people a choice either and the timeshare ownership or continue did John Oakes do a cash contract for all the weeks that were abandoned he can take mine now I'll never use it I have a house in the Poconos

The resort is perhaps trying to recoup future maintenance fees (resort operations) that they need to cover until they can sell that week again. They may take your week back and sit on it for a year or more. A week owned by the HOA is a week of unpaid maintenance fees.

 

[nellevad]

I know, it's frustrating. But I did read that Pennsylvania requires a realestate lawyer for any realestate transfer. So there is that cost. There is no timeshare sales person, period. I was there in 2021, so I am an eye witness for the property. I also rent yearly, and get first hand accounts on the conditions. My weeks are in the summer, and in the last 2 phases built. They are not that bad, just dated and worn. Other weeks, I believe, are in units that are under dense tree cover which is really bad for roofs. Hence those are probably leaking. The reviews are true, because I got a review that the dishwasher was leaking and it posted to my Airbnb Account. I have also seen maintenance done, but it has dwindled with lack of funds. Nothing I could do about that except call the resort to get it fixed, which they did. I think the pandemic was the last straw with many deliquencies. If this John Oakes wants to invest, let him have at it. If you want to stop paying, that is your peragative. C'est la vie. What ever is in your best interest I feel you should do. I have options, like renting, or going there yearly. Most people don't. And yes, many people do like the serenity. It is nice, but many people want a NYC style accommodations and have not read the reviews or the website. I am always very honest with people when they rent.

 

[Sammy1234]

I have a question I just inherited my timeshare and not exactly sure RCI works. If I want to trade my week at Eagle Village,can I still do that being Eagle Village is suspended or is my only option to use my week and stay at Eagle Village?

 

[dioxide45]

I have a question I just inherited my timeshare and not exactly sure RCI works. If I want to trade my week at Eagle Village,can I still do that being Eagle Village is suspended or is my only option to use my week and stay at Eagle Village?

With it being suspended, you can not trade it through RCI. Your only option right now seems to be to use it at Eagle Village. Not sure if any of the independent exchange companies (like TPI) may accept it.

 

[nellevad]

I have a question I just inherited my timeshare and not exactly sure RCI works. If I want to trade my week at Eagle Village,can I still do that being Eagle Village is suspended or is my only option to use my week and stay at Eagle

Is the deed now in your name? Because if it isn't, EV has been pretty accepting of taking deeds back upon deaths.

 

[Sammy1234]

With it being suspended, you can not trade it through RCI. Your only option right now seems to be to use it at Eagle Village. Not sure if any of the independent exchange companies (like TPI) may accept it.

This is interesting and concerning because I just got off the phone with RCI and he insisted that RCI had not suspended Eagle Village. He told me to quit listening to my neighbors. I said, so if I rejoin RCI, I won't have any problems and he said, no, it would be fine. He then proceeded to try and get me to pay so my RCI membership would be active again. I asked to speak to his supervisor and he said, that was not necessary because he has been with RCI for five years and He knows what is going on. So upsetting because how many people will believe him and then have trouble using their week

 

[nellevad]

You should have told him to go check the resort catalog. Because it is not listed.

 

[LisaC]

Well, I still have not received a response so best of luck. Her email is smills@eaglevillagepoa.com
They accepted names at the meeting of owners that wanted to be contacted to work on giving back their weeks to EV. They mentioned the amount is negotiated case by case and has run between $2000-$3000.

That would be nice if they would take our week back. Has anyone been able to have this

This is interesting and concerning because I just got off the phone with RCI and he insisted that RCI had not suspended Eagle Village. He told me to quit listening to my neighbors. I said, so if I rejoin RCI, I won't have any problems and he said, no, it would be fine. He then proceeded to try and get me to pay so my RCI membership would be active again. I asked to speak to his supervisor and he said, that was not necessary because he has been with RCI for five years and He knows what is going on. So upsetting because how many people will believe him and then have trouble using their week

Yes, wish he was right!

 

[slarney77]

I saw a post that said Pennsylvania requires a real estate lawyer for real estate transactions I read the opposite , all you need was a broker or a timeshare broker this is very confusing I also read that the IRS does not deemed timeshares of value that's why you don't pay taxes on them there's so many rules and regulations towards timeshares that to find a straight answer is almost impossible.rci has been emailing me about renewing but I probably won't because if they don't accept the eagle village points then I don't think it's really worthwhile the last time I used them I was told that I had to stay 7 days or else they'd be extra cleaning fees and I asked them why because they're only going to clean that room once no matter what. How's everybody leaning paying the maintenance fee not paying the maintenance fee waiting and seeing what happens

 

[nellevad]

Well, timeshare brokers have lawyers on staff, so that covers the info you found on needing a lawyer in Pennsylvania. On the tax question, if you own a deeded timeshare, you pay your share of the annual realestate taxes every year through your manitenance fees! So, yes you pay realestate taxes. There just isn't a line on your tax return to enter them because timeshares are not primary residences. Hope this helps.

 

[Sammy1234]

I do not know if this would be an option, but someone mentioned before about filing a class action lawsuit. I have an attorney trying to get us out. Would there be enough interest with anyone for me to ask him if we would have a case and if so, how to proceed? I am thinking the reason we could do something is because they did not use our maintenance fees for what they are to be used for - maintenance. Let me know your thoughts on this. I feel like we all need to join forces, and do something.

 

[Sammy1234]

Another thing I think might be a good idea is to contact the state representative in Monroe County where Eagle Village is located. The state representative for that area is: Hon. Maureen E. Madden. Her phone number is (570)894-7905. If you Google her name, it will take you to her website where you can also email her. I don't think it would hurt if we all start contacting her and let her know what is happening with a business located in her district.

 

[slarney77]

Has ev ever sent out anything with repairs they made last thing I saw was an outdated website

 

[Sammy1234]

Has ev ever sent out anything with repairs they made last thing I saw was an outdated website

Which your question brings me to another scenario that is not going to be fair to us. Someone mentioned that the new developer, John Oakes, might give us the option of an out by paying $2,000 - $3,000. Why should we have to give them more money when we have been paying maintenance fees and they have not been using by them towards maintenance. Which in turn, most of us have not been using the "resort" because after reading the reviews that mention, roaches, mice droppings, no heat no air conditioning and this is just to name a few of the reviews, which again means we are paying our maintenance fees and not using our week there, and after talking to the guy at RCI last night who told me RCI did not suspend Eagle Village and we could still exchange our week, but since Eagle Village has poor reviews, we would have to stay at a resort that has the same ratings. So great its a WIN-WIN situation, we get to exchange our Bates Hotel week for some place like the Stanley Hotel where The Shining was filmed. I feel so much better after hearing that.

 

[Patri]

They should pay you that much money.

 

[Arwen]

The resort is perhaps trying to recoup future maintenance fees (resort operations) that they need to cover until they can sell that week again. They may take your week back and sit on it for a year or more. A week owned by the HOA is a week of unpaid maintenance fees.

We got our floating week 11 years ago by just taking over the paying of the maintenance fee. They did not resell the week. There were about 12 weeks on the list they showed us to choose from. I wonder if they ever actually resold weeks?

 

[Arwen]

Also, we tried to get a reservation for this spring before we knew what was going on. My husband has been going fishing there for 10 years and for about the past 4 years he had big complaints about the poor condition of the resort. I emailed EV asking for the reservation and never got a reply. I know they got the email becuase it was not returned to me. I then made phone calls and heard the message about RCI and a letter. We did not put EV into our RCI account so had not heard anything. The phone message started me looking around for what was going on and I found this site. I also called 3 times and went on three different lines of the phone tree and no one ever answered so I oeft a message each time asking about making a reservation and no one has ever gotten back to me. Apparenly they do not want anyone there.

 

[Sammy1234]

Also, we tried to get a reservation for this spring before we knew what was going on. My husband has been going fishing there for 10 years and for about the past 4 years he had big complaints about the poor condition of the resort. I emailed EV asking for the reservation and never got a reply. I know they got the email becuase it was not returned to me. I then made phone calls and heard the message about RCI and a letter. We did not put EV into our RCI account so had not heard anything. The phone message started me looking around for what was going on and I found this site. I also called 3 times and went on three different lines of the phone tree and no one ever answered so I oeft a message each time asking about making a reservation and no one has ever gotten back to me. Apparenly they do not want anyone there.

This is another good reason why I think we should look into a class action lawsuit. Eagle Village is not even answering phone calls so how is anyone suppose to get reservations??
Again, is anybody interest in looking into a class action lawsuit. If so, I'll start making some phone calls. But I have to know their is an interest.

Also, I mentioned in a prior post that starting tomorrow, everyone should start calling the state representative for that area. I supplied all the info. in an above post.

 

[nellevad]

What would be the result of a class action law suit? There is no business to sue. The Property Owners Assocition is us. And the Board is simply owners who were elected to run it and do not get paid. If they are poor at their job, the only option is to run for the board yourself. There is no money for restitution. Did they run off with our money? The annual budget shows they did not. The money that came in was spent on wages and running the property expenses. Just wasnt enough money. If EV is bankrupt, it will end on its own. You can speed it up by not paying MFs. How do you plan on paying a lawyer? There will be no pot of money for a lawyer to take a percentage. I'm not seeing how going to a lawyer or making a complaint will solve this.

 

[Sammy1234]

What would be the result of a class action law suit? There is no business to sue. The Property Owners Assocition is us. And the Board is simply owners who were elected to run it and do not get paid. If they are poor at their job, the only option is to run for the board yourself. There is no money for restitution. Did they run off with our money? The annual budget shows they did not. The money that came in was spent on wages and running the property expenses. Just wasnt enough money. If EV is bankrupt, it will end on its own. You can speed it up by not paying MFs. How do you plan on paying a lawyer? There will be no pot of money for a lawyer to take a percentage. I'm not seeing how going to a lawyer or making a complaint will solve this.

Ok, that's why I asked for input and what you said makes sense. Unfortunately we got a lawyer last year before we knew about all the trouble they are in. Not sure how its going to work out for us.
Thanks again for your input.

 

[slarney77]

I called the Monroe county representative and talk to the secretary and talk about what was going on with eagle village and they said they'll look into it but they recommended calling consumer protection

 

[SalonJ]

Does anyone really think that RCI will reinstate us?

I agree why should we pay. I lost my week last year we can't exchange and they send me a bill for this year . At this point I'm not paying it. They never call back and I don't think they are going to.

 

[SalonJ]

Ok, that's why I asked for input and what you said makes sense. Unfortunately we got a lawyer last year before we knew about all the trouble they are in. Not sure how its going to work out for us.
Thanks again for your input.

If you don't mind me asking what advice did your lawyer give you? I don't want to pay anymore for a time share that's falling apart and that we can't exchange . Maybe we should all stop paying.

 

[SalonJ]

So if eagle village is not for profit then where do they come up with two to $3,000 when you could register a deed with Pike county for $150 when I inherited my time share they gave a price I think it was about $2,000 to have it put in my name some of the fees were waived and I think it was $1,000 it was a while ago my question is in a deed back situation shouldn't the Price be only 150 dollars that you're signing it back to them who gets the rest of the money when they give the price of 2 to 3,000 is it the timeshare sales person that they use it just doesn't smell right to me the question of paying my maintenance fee I don't think I'll be paying it this year since I paid it all these years and it doesn't seem like they've done any maintenance on the properties the good reviews they get are few and far between and to be honest I think they're either paid for you see one set of people say all horrible it is and then some people say it's the most wonderful place on Earth even if you split the difference the bad reviews outweigh the good reviews you can't get a hold of anybody in the office if they really cared about the owners they would have made it a point to keep people abreast of the situation and giving people a choice either and the timeshare ownership or continue did John Oakes do a cash contract for all the weeks that were abandoned he can take mine now I'll never use it I have a house in the Poconos

Hi I don't think any of us should pay MF's this is crazy . I have called many times to get no answer and left messages and no call back . I lost my week last year and now we can't exchange. I have owned since 1983. Back then it was nice but now it's gone down hill and seems like not worth much at all .