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RCI Suspended Eagle Village Tamiment

194725RR said:
Great News! Decorum is being followed. Eagle Village just sent out a notice that on 2/28/25 at 10:00 am a meeting of the timeshare interest owners will take place for the purpose of removing 3 or more directors and to elect successor directors to serve beginning immediately with staggered terms.
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I received the same letter today.
Not sufficient (or any) information on candidates and sending out a notice concerning a board meeting approximately a week away is not acceptable or appropriate.
 
Sammy1234 said:
How do they pick candidates. Shouldn't they have sent out notice that they were looking for candidates and where and who they could send a letter of interest to be considered?
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No, not required in the R&R. If you are interested, you submit your name to the existing board.
 
I'm reading through the R&R. I'm thinking that the number of owners who paid this year's MFs is smaller, than the outstanding defaulted owners plus POA owned units, plus Oakes owned units. We as owners would not make a difference. Here's my math:
68 units x 51 weeks =3468 total weeks that could be owned.
If Oakes has 906 (not verified though and if true were popably the ones previosly owned by EV POA), and there are 1400+ in default, and about 175 in the new Bushkill PA Eagle Village LCC, that totals 2481 weeks without owners. 3468 -2481= 987 weeks with owners in possibly good standing. Of those, historically, only 50% might return a proxy. Our votes would not make a dent.
 
And that is how these places end up getting to be a nearly exclusive club for the people that work there and live nearby. They own the votes and get what they want...
 
nellevad said:
I'm reading through the R&R. I'm thinking that the number of owners who paid this year's MFs is smaller, than the outstanding defaulted owners plus POA owned units, plus Oakes owned units. We as owners would not make a difference. Here's my math:
68 units x 51 weeks =3468 total weeks that could be owned.
If Oakes has 906 (not verified though and if true were popably the ones previosly owned by EV POA), and there are 1400+ in default, and about 175 in the new Bushkill PA Eagle Village LCC, that totals 2481 weeks without owners. 3468 -2481= 987 weeks with owners in possibly good standing. Of those, historically, only 50% might return a proxy. Our votes would not make a dent.
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Owners in default can still vote. You may be restricted from use of the property and amenities but voting rights remain. John Oakes company is Bushkill PA with about 175 deeds last I checked. If they aren't the deed holder they don't get a vote. His company may be consulting for the POA but that doesn't give them any additional voting power. Deeds held by the POA aren't owned weeks so they don't get a vote. You must have actual skin in the game to vote by owning the week and being responsible for maintenance fees. All owner votes should matter and historically Eagle Village has sent out information on elections requesting nominations. Did that happen at all the last two years? Not that I saw. Removing and electing new Directors should take an act of the body so again your votes should matter. This entire situation doesn't look good.
 
I don't believe owners in default get to vote. From section 12c of R&R:
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This from section 13d:

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John Oakes Bushkill PA Property Owners LCC does own the deeds. The deeds accepted back to EV Property Owners over the years are owned by the POA and I believe I read they are controlled by the Association. But I can't find that yet. I'll keep reading. And those might be the ones given to John Oakes? But I haven't seen a deed transfer yet.

And here is a section on Special Meetings and voting for replacing directors. I think this explains why we didn't get a proxy.
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Nellevad,

Some states including the one I live in have struck down, through their own laws, allowing Owners' Associations to remove voting rights for delinquency regardless of what is in the CCR's or Bylaws. I do not know about PA specifically so it's a shame IF that is still legal. Being behind hundreds or a couple thousand dollars should not keep an owner from deciding matters that will impact their ownership interests for many years to come. Taking away use and amenities is fine but voting rights is a slippery slope for sure. Imagine disputing a $100 fine and being told you can't vote. I'm very glad to be out but following and hoping to see a happy outcome.
 
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nellevad said:
And these must be the 3 names mentioned who were named to the board?View attachment 106522
All live in California and acquired a week/unit on the same day.
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This is my biggest complaint with the "Deed-back" advertising. I bet Cary, Heller, and Berry Bros paid for a deed-back when in reality it was a direct transfer to those 3 new individuals. I would say that is a fraudulent/deceptive practice. None of these are deed-backs or deed buybacks if the POA is not receiving them.
 
EagleVillage08 said:
Nellevad,

Some states including the one I live in have struck down, through their own laws, allowing Owners' Associations to remove voting rights for delinquency regardless of what is in the CCR's or Bylaws. I do not know about PA specifically so it's a shame IF that is still legal. Being behind hundreds or a couple thousand dollars should not keep an owner from deciding matters that will impact their ownership interests for many years to come. Taking away use and amenities is fine but voting rights is a slippery slope for sure. Imagine disputing a $100 fine and being told you can't vote. I'm very glad to be out but following and hoping to see a happy outcome.
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I am only sharing factual information from the Rules and Regulations for EV. It's better to base opinions and beliefs on facts. If those facts have changed, then my opinions and beliefs probably will also. If in your state they have passed a law, that is your basis. But I have not seen one for PA. I'm sure if there is a "dispute" over an amount of money owed, an association would find a solution. But owing MFs is not a dispute. It effects all owners as you have seen with EV. Associations have to have recourse to collect. Hasn't that been the problem with EV? The BoDs (over the years) failed to forclose and collect debt on 1400 owners. The BoDs failed on having a resale program that would keep membership up. I believe voting rights should be recinded. Why should delinquent owners have any rights to make decisions if they have left the rest of us holding the bill? Anyways, that's water over the dam. Right now we have 1400ish, plus 906 plus 185 weeks that no MFs are coming in on. John Oakes is collecting all of these weeks in a new association that is tied to his other property. His motives are not clear and transparent. That is worrisome. Is he really going to act as a developer and resell these weeks to pay himself back for renovations or is he stockpiling land. Those 3 people received deeds directly from the previous owners. If it had gone through Bushkill PA Property Owners LLC, it would have been recorded as such first. I see no such recording, so I see it as legal. Did they pay for the weeks? Probably not. No one can sell or even give these weeks away. It doesn't bother me if they got them for free because now they are on the books to pay MFs.
 
Sammy1234 said:
That's fine that its not required, but why submit a letter of interest if they already picked the three board members?
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You have to submit a letter of interest to the Board to make it known of your intent to run at least 30 days before a notice of a meeting is sent to owners. Typically there are more nominees than places to fill. If there are exactly the number of nominees to available positions, it's a shoo-in. No point in sending out bio's, I guess, except it would be more responsible and considerate of the remaining owners. They should also post the names of the new BoD, but EV has never done that.
 
natalia said:
Not a good sign.
I am curious if anyone has stayed at Eagle Village recently?
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I was just thinking the other day, that there have not been any updates or comments lately. I wondering what is going on?
 
Just out of curiosity, I went to their website that is still online and put in a bunch of different dates from April to June, and it keeps saying, no availability for any of the dates I tried.
 
I called yesterday to see if my unit would be available. They said either my unit or a comparable one would be available. I'll know for sure come July. They are providing units to owners only. No RCI swaps and no rentals as per their last letter.
 
nellevad said:
I called yesterday to see if my unit would be available. They said either my unit or a comparable one would be available. I'll know for sure come July. They are providing units to owners only. No RCI swaps and no rentals as per their last letter.
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Ok thanks, I did forget about that.
 
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