[May '08 Thread] wanted weeks.com anybody heard of them?

[GrayFal]

Further update: When I received my deed it was a QCD (others have opined on the difference between a QCD and one that makes a general warranty of title). I was not expecting a QCD, but it was not a huge concern due to: 1) my receipt of a detailed estoppel letter from the resort showing title in my sellers, no MF due, contract paid in full, no points usage for 08 or 09; 2) my due diligence with the resort; and 3) my familiarity with real estate transactions in general.

However, I will be getting a warranty deed after all. This past Friday, I received an email from the title services department at Wyndham in Fla. They told me that the WW QCD was insufficient to transfer title because WW did not include an adequate legal description of the real estate in the QCD. I had previously pointed this out to WW, but they said that their filing of the LPOA at the same time as the QCD solved the problem, and for me to just wait and see what Wyndham does.

Well, I was right, but it worked out OK because I drafted a corrected General Warranty Deed, turned it into a .pdf, and emailed it to WW/RTS on Friday for them to execute and record. Kim Moore at Resort Transfer Services confirmed later that day that the deed had been sent out for recording.

As my daughter's favorite singer says, nobody's perfect, so, as long as I eventually get these points recognized on the FairShare Plus system under my name along with my other points, I will give WW a good rec on Ebay. But not until then....

Thanks for the update!
I suspect this will be happening to me, too, as my purchase is for Wyn/FSP.

 

[Denise L]

I can't find their website anymore ---- Can anyone else get into the wanted weeks com? Strange. I was really liking what i saw there.

The website appears to be back up. It was gone for a few days and now looks like it is back, though not updated. Still listing rentals for March 2008.

 

[EZ Ed]

Wanted Weeks? What's the prevailing thought now?

After reading the entire thread, I've seen people whose opinions I trust bat this around for months now. I'm bidding on a Wyn/FF property now and just don't know what to expect. Do the questions you've all raised give me justification to ask for the deal to be cancelled (if possible)?
As always, thanks!
EZ Ed

 

[JMAESD84]

After reading the entire thread, I've seen people whose opinions I trust bat this around for months now. I'm bidding on a Wyn/FF property now and just don't know what to expect. Do the questions you've all raised give me justification to ask for the deal to be cancelled (if possible)?
As always, thanks!
EZ Ed

As I said in an earlier post the jury is still out on this operation. It's quite clear that they make A LOT OF MISTAKES. So you have to to have a certain tolerance for risk to be able to work with this seller.

Hopefully, the sellers intent is not to intentionallly rip people off and whatever mistakes occur can be corrected to everyone's satisfaction.

I see that they received there FIRST NEGATIVE FEEDBACK from a buyer on a timeshare sale on 7/22. They wont survive on eBay if that becomes a pattern.

Be cautious and proceed at your own risk.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Doesn't seem like anyone necessarily cares that the address on their contracts, 300 Center Dr, Superior, CO 80027, unit 351 G, doesn't exist. We drove there, even used our GPS, and it is a vacant lot.

 

[richardm]

Cindy, I'm amazed as well.. I guess Barnum was right "There's a sucker born every minute....."

 

[JMAESD84]

I called one of the WW principals, Shaun Fletcher, and obtained his physical address so that I could FedEx to him my check. His address is 1430 Larimer Street, #302, Denver CO 80202. This is also the address of "Resort Transfer Services."

I google searched businiesses here and found.

TIMESHARE RESCUE
1409 Larimer St
Denver, CO 80202

When I called the phone number posted here for Resort Transfer Service (303-825-0288) it was answered as TIMESHARE RESCUE.

I inquired about the status of my timeshare transfer and after confusing me as a seller, I provided the sellers name from my contract and they found the account. Of course, I was told my prepared deed had been sent for recording as every else has reported.

I asked for a copy of the prepared deed to be sent to me and the woman confirmed my address as the buyer and said she would mail it today.

So I think that clears up which PCC is behind this operation, lets just hope WW cleans up their side of the business.

 

[london]

Resort on Cocoa Beach

I have just won a Ebay auction for Resort on Cocoa Beach (eoy -odd year) for 107.50 plus closing and transfer costs of 495.00.

The listing was accurate as to MF's and usage, and listed the deeded week and unit number. Starts in 2009.

We already own 3 weeks at RCB. So we shall see what happens with this sale.

Will keep you posted.

 

[huddleston]

Cindy, I'm amazed as well.. I guess Barnum was right "There's a sucker born every minute....."

Totally inappropriate comment regarding other TUG Members who have decided to take a calculated risk in purchasing from WW. I got 135,000 Wyndham FairShare Plus points at Wyndham Pagosa Springs, CO for $97.00. I have little doubt that my corrected general warranty deed has been sent to Archuleta County for recording, and it is only a matter of time before I will have use of the points.

Perhaps the "sucker" is the person that pays several times this price for the same FSP points.
Brian

 

[huddleston]

This is a long thread, but in a couple of places I posted notices that WantedWeeks=TimeShare Rescue=Resort Transfer Services. I also posted their correct physical address (in Denver).

 

[GrayFal]

Totally inappropriate comment regarding other TUG Members who have decided to take a calculated risk in purchasing from WW. I got 135,000 Wyndham FairShare Plus points at Wyndham Pagosa Springs, CO for $97.00. I have little doubt that my corrected general warranty deed has been sent to Archuleta County for recording, and it is only a matter of time before I will have use of the points.

Perhaps the "sucker" is the person that pays several times this price for the same FSP points.
Brian

Thank you Brian.

I agree .....many of us have done our homework and feel comfortable with the situation. I believe that Cindy's DD runs her internet TS rental/sales business out of her home - it doesn't make it any less a legitimate business.
JMHO

 

[london]

Wanted Weeks

Follow up on Ebay auction win for Resort on Cocoa Beach.

I was emailed the contract promptly today. I requested the resort transfer fee be reduced to 75.00 instead of 100.00, and that was done.

The sale contract was well written and spelled out exactly what was being purchased. Indicated unit, week, and biennial usage.

So far I am pleased with the response. We signed and faxed back the contract.

 

[EZ Ed]

Not an investment, but...

Folks,
We all know that timeshares are NOT an investment, but in this case buying one on eBay may have one similarity.

Just as investing carries different levels of risk that some may accept and others may not, buying ebay TS's may carry that same type of risk as well.

If some folks will accept the risk, so be it. If others won't, so be it.

I didn't want to accept that risk; if you can, that's great!

Let's pull back,take a breath, and see what happens. I hope EVERYONE'S deals go through without a hitch.

Thanks,

EZ Ed in Fort Mill

 

[rickandcindy23]

Thank you Brian.

I agree .....many of us have done our homework and feel comfortable with the situation. I believe that Cindy's DD runs her internet TS rental/sales business out of her home - it doesn't make it any less a legitimate business.
JMHO

Pat, that is true, but the address on the paperwork I received and signed from Wanted Weeks doesn't exist at all. No such address, but there is a vacant lot of that address. Perhaps they have contracted to an office space that is to be built there, which is what I assume, but it is a long way from being a legitimate place of business.

I am making it known that my daughter has a timeshare rental business, so this is no secret to anyone, and of course a business can be run out of a home. Rick and I run a chimney cleaning business out of our home, and have been successful for 25 years, and even though I am a Realtor with Keller Williams, I haven't been to the office for months, yet I am still working it over here.

The point I am making is, why a phony address? I have also talked to several people at Wanted Weeks via email, but they haven't returned a phone call we made from the vacant lot. We are purchasing from them, so we will see what happens. I feel okay about it, but I don't get the misleading address. I have the benefit of driving 12 miles to see the address doesn't exist.

Has anyone asked WW why they have an address that doesn't exist?

 

[richardm]

Oh what a tangled web we weave.......

Pat, that is true, but the address on the paperwork I received and signed from Wanted Weeks doesn't exist at all. No such address, but there is a vacant lot of that address. Perhaps they have contracted to an office space that is to be built there, which is what I assume, but it is a long way from being a legitimate place of business.

The point I am making is, why a phony address? I have also talked to several people at Wanted Weeks via email, but they haven't returned a phone call we made from the vacant lot. We are purchasing from them, so we will see what happens. I feel okay about it, but I don't get the misleading address. I have the benefit of driving 12 miles to see the address doesn't exist.
Has anyone asked WW why they have an address that doesn't exist?

The answer is pretty simple!

If timeshare owners found out that their ownerships were not impossible to sell (this impression must be vital to the success rate groups like Timeshare Relief and Timeshare Rescue have at their seminars when they convince people to fork over thousands and sign those POA's!) companies like this would be OUT OF BUSINESS!

The need to hide how these properties are sold must be a major concern... Besides, what is one more little misunderstanding among friends.. I'm sure the vacant lot is really pretty and, who knows, Wanted Weeks employees may have their company picnic there!

This whole thread just makes me feel very scared for the industry! I keep envisioning some creepy guy wearing a dirty cape with big red letters "TR"... He's pretending he's a street magician in the mouth of some alley full of used needles and broken bottles... I can just smell the stench! ........"Look over here, ladies..... Let me show you how I can make this Wyndham ownership disappear and turn into a thick wad of cash!"

Yeah! This type of spectacle should be great for the public's perception of the vacation ownership industry!!!!

My discomfort is my own fault.. I just had this misconception that the majority of TUG members shared my sense of right and wrong.. I may have just misjudged people in this venue!

Brian- Why don't you approach these groups and enter into a partnership of some type? Post their properties here in this forum for free so your members can benefit.. It will save the PCC's money from not having to pay eBay- it will make it much easier for them to hide how they sell- and it will keep these ridiculous prices from being as exposed to the public as they are now.. Besides- you want ads to fill up your classifieds- and these guys create a bunch!

Just another crazy idea rattling around........

 

[JMAESD84]

Pat, that is true, but the address on the paperwork I received and signed from Wanted Weeks doesn't exist at all. No such address, but there is a vacant lot of that address. Perhaps they have contracted to an office space that is to be built there, which is what I assume, but it is a long way from being a legitimate place of business.

I am making it known that my daughter has a timeshare rental business, so this is no secret to anyone, and of course a business can be run out of a home. Rick and I run a chimney cleaning business out of our home, and have been successful for 25 years, and even though I am a Realtor with Keller Williams, I haven't been to the office for months, yet I am still working it over here.

The point I am making is, why a phony address? I have also talked to several people at Wanted Weeks via email, but they haven't returned a phone call we made from the vacant lot. We are purchasing from them, so we will see what happens. I feel okay about it, but I don't get the misleading address. I have the benefit of driving 12 miles to see the address doesn't exist.

Has anyone asked WW why they have an address that doesn't exist?

I returned my (edited and signed) contract to WW via confirmed receipt mail to the "phony address" in question and it got delivered.

So the absense of a building at the location seems to only mean that no work occurs at that location.

Why that address? Who knows. At a minimum, I would think they would want an address that is different than the one used by TIMESHARE RESCUE.

I hope this thread doesn't get hijacked by the REALTOR LICSENSE required argument that has been discussed at length elsewhere. Let's keep this thread focused on what we know about WW and their performance.

 

[rickandcindy23]

JMaes, which address did you send that paperwork to? Are you talking about Larimer St.? That one definitely exists, close to Rick's firehouse in Denver. The Superior address is the one I am questioning.

 

[JMAESD84]

JMaes, which address did you send that paperwork to? Are you talking about Larimer St.? That one definitely exists, close to Rick's firehouse in Denver. The Superior address is the one I am questioning.

WantedWeeks, LLC
300 Center Drive
Suite G 351
Superior, CO 80027

 

[jadejar]

That is also the address I sent my paperwork to - so far so good.

 

[Aussiedog]

Why that address? Who knows. At a minimum, I would think they would want an address that is different than the one used by TIMESHARE RESCUE.

My very cynical attorney DH suggests that it is very hard to serve a summons in a civil action to an empty lot.

Ann

 

[rickandcindy23]

I suppose a person can have mail forwarded from a phony address, but there is definitely no mailbox on the empty lot.

Pigsdad (Kurt) lives much closer than I do to Superior. Perhaps I can ask him to drive by also, so he can report the same.

It seems that some people don't believe that I drove to the correct place, since mail is making it there okay. I guarantee it's an empty lot. 301 Center Dr. is a Panda Express, and it stands to reason that this office would be very near it. You can see it with Google Maps, satellite view. That is a very recent picture because it is exactly what I saw.

 

[JMAESD84]

It seems that some people don't believe that I drove to the correct place, since mail is making it there okay. I guarantee it's an empty lot.

I believe you. Why would you feel otherwise?

It just doesn't appear to be an issue of significance since all communications and documentation is done by mail, email, phone or fax.

 

[rickandcindy23]

I believe you. Why would you feel otherwise?

It just doesn't appear to be an issue of significance since all communications and documentation is done by mail, email, phone or fax.

I am not offended, on the contrary. I just thought another person going to the address would be further proof.

A phony address is unnecessary, as Pat pointed out, because a home address is perfectly acceptable for this type of business. I just think it would be better to not list a secondary (phony) address, if you have to make one up and have mail forwarded. Perhaps they know someone who owns the lot. It makes some of us uncomfortable, knowing no such building exists.

 

[huddleston]

Brian- Why don't you approach these groups and enter into a partnership of some type? Post their properties here in this forum for free so your members can benefit.. It will save the PCC's money from not having to pay eBay- it will make it much easier for them to hide how they sell- and it will keep these ridiculous prices from being as exposed to the public as they are now.. Besides- you want ads to fill up your classifieds- and these guys create a bunch!

Was this directed to me? It is nonsensical.
Brian

 

[DebbieM]

Cindy is correct, it really is an empty lot. I go by the area all the time (our nearest Costco). It is a commercial area still under development, so it stands to reason that there will probably be construction on the lot sometime in the future. However, there are absolutely no signs of development right now, just dirt and weeds.

Cindy is also correct that there is no mailbox at the lot, but there is a collection of them nearby. I looked at them this weekend to see if they might shed any more information, but they are simply numbered 1-16. I tried!