Introducing WYNDHAM Club Pass

[lcml11]

"Now" is probably a misnomer... destined to be part of WCP when it rolls out in June would be more accurate. I don't know which resorts but I'll ask my contact tomorrow.

Thanks-you. That would be good to know.

 

[rrlongwell]

"Now" is probably a misnomer... destined to be part of WCP when it rolls out in June would be more accurate. I don't know which resorts but I'll ask my contact tomorrow.

Just got off the phone with Shell Vacation Club.

Their Home Resorts currently are:

1. Shell Direct
2. Midwest
3. HI
4. West
5. Pacific
6. California
7. Americana

Do not know which 6r Shell Resorts are joining up with Club Wyndham Pass.

 

[vacationhopeful]

Robert - there are 4 Shell Owners Clubs. If you just brought a 6,000-12,000 point Shell membership, it would become all so clear in the morning.

The question is, which CLUB --
Americana (which also is comprised of Club Southwest & East)
Hawaii
Pacific
West (also referred to a California).

 

[lcml11]

Robert - there are 4 Shell Owners Clubs. If you just brought a 6,000-12,000 point Shell membership, it would become all so clear in the morning.

The question is, which CLUB --
Americana (which also is comprised of Club Southwest & East)
Hawaii
Pacific
West (also referred to a California).

Shell vs. what you say, will go with Shell with the exception that logically Pacific and California could go together. Shell indicated that the Midwest Club was the new kid on the block.

Sorry to disappoint but the Direct Membership Club is made reference to on post 162 in the below link. I will let others finish finding out about the Shell past and current structure if they are interested. I am more interested in the future structure.

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44941&page=7

 

[vacationhopeful]

Robert,
I have my info on a written brochure from Shell, not "whisper down the lane" telephone via a customer service/call center employee or WHAT their water cooler chatter is.

 

[markb53]

Just got off the phone with Shell Vacation Club.

Their Home Resorts currently are:

1. Shell Direct
2. Midwest
3. HI
4. West
5. Pacific
6. California
7. Americana

Do not know which 6r Shell Resorts are joining up with Club Wyndham Pass.

At this point, I believe, Wyndham has not mentioned when or if Shell will become part of Club Wyndham Pass. Club Wyndham Pass is supposed to be an internal exchange between Wyndham and Worldmark.

Wyndham has said that 8 Shell resorts will become Associate Resorts sometime during 2014. Those resorts are:

Orange Tree Golf Resort – Scottsdale, Arizona
The Legacy Golf Resort – Phoenix, Arizona
Crotched Mountain Resort – Francestown, New Hampshire
Vino Bello Resort – Napa, California
Carriage Ridge Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Carriage Hills Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Peacock Suites – Anaheim, California
Starr Pass Golf Suites – Tucson, Arizona

I think the associate resorts will be the first step. Then down the road they may become part of Club Wyndham Pass if that system works out for Wyndham.

Just my opinion, of course

 

[Bigrob]

At this point, I believe, Wyndham has not mentioned when or if Shell will become part of Club Wyndham Pass. Club Wyndham Pass is supposed to be an internal exchange between Wyndham and Worldmark.

Wyndham has said that 8 Shell resorts will become Associate Resorts sometime during 2014. Those resorts are:

Orange Tree Golf Resort – Scottsdale, Arizona
The Legacy Golf Resort – Phoenix, Arizona
Crotched Mountain Resort – Francestown, New Hampshire
Vino Bello Resort – Napa, California
Carriage Ridge Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Carriage Hills Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Peacock Suites – Anaheim, California
Starr Pass Golf Suites – Tucson, Arizona

I think the associate resorts will be the first step. Then down the road they may become part of Club Wyndham Pass if that system works out for Wyndham.

Just my opinion, of course

I believe this is correct. According to my contact, folks who have just recently purchased Club Pass eligible contracts can see the inventory that is being added to Club Pass and are able to start making reservations. He indicated it would be March before others would see it.

I was going to see what else I could get from him but he had to finish cutting the grass.

 

[lcml11]

I believe this is correct. According to my contact, folks who have just recently purchased Club Pass eligible contracts can see the inventory that is being added to Club Pass and are able to start making reservations. He indicated it would be March before others would see it.

I was going to see what else I could get from him but he had to finish cutting the grass.

Thanks for the info that Wyndham Club Pass is up and running and people who bought developer points recently can now see the inventory and make reservations.

A interesting variation of the ARP concept.

I guess the water cooler chatter let us down, but, the guy cutting the grass came through.

 

[ronparise]

Thanks for the info that Wyndham Club Pass is up and running and people who bought developer points recently can now see the inventory and make reservations.

A interesting variation of the ARP concept.

I guess the water cooler chatter let us down, but, the guy cutting the grass came through.

so your contact is one of the landscaping staff at one of the resorts?? Oh yea..that makes me confident

 

[Bigrob]

so your contact is one of the landscaping staff at one of the resorts?? Oh yea..that makes me confident

Think he was referring to me... who was being a little facetious.

Guy I'm talking to is pretty green and I wouldn't put too much stock in it frankly. It may be more like "here's what you'll be able to book when the system is open" rather than "here's something only you have access to that you can book before everyone else".

 

[lcml11]

so your contact is one of the landscaping staff at one of the resorts?? Oh yea..that makes me confident

Glad you are confident. Any interesting info coming from your sales contact at Corporate Sales? Maybe input from their perspective would be interesting.

I do not disagree, verification would be appropriate. If true, the new Wyndham World Order may be trail marketing a window where new developer purchases get some lead time over other owners for the better reservations.

To the degree that different Wyndham sources are saying different things about the Club Wyndham Pass System and the Shell purchase, that is nothing particularly new.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Not Happy at all with this new "benefit"

Yikes, I wasn't paying much attentions to the Club Pass thing - figured I'd figure it out when I needed to. Since it's now affecting ME, I'm paying attention and trying to catch up real quick.

YUCK! Trying to book some rooms for a family wedding in San Diego in September. Last time I checked, I was able to view inventory at the 2 WorldMarks in San Diego. Not anymore -- now I get a 'Club Pass - Coming to a theater near you' message.

Called Wyndham and was transferred to a special 'Club Pass' group (sorry if I am repeating what's been said above - tried to skim quickly).

* There are no plans for online viewing of WM inventory by Wyndham owners (necessary so they can control the inventory they will make available).
* Today, if you call in, you can reserve through Aug 15.
* Today, they cannot even check inventory in September for me.
* After June 1 (if the program goes live as scheduled), I can call in to check availability for September
* Random people were selected for a VIPeek program (all my Wyndham emails get automatically directed to a folder that I rarely even look at, so if I was invited, I did not notice). VIPeekers can reserve now using the new Club Pass program (just one more disadvantage for me if I call after June 1).
* Club Pass VC forgot to mention anything about developer only or $99 transfer fee

Unless I am totally off base - I don't expect this is a "perk" I'll ever use. Great job Wyndham - it's 2014 and you took away my ability to do something online, added fees, and made it impossible for me to book rooms past August 15 while I wait for the program to go live.

The funniest part is them painting this as a benefit. Thanks but no thanks, I'll be sticking to Wyndham properties.

 

[jebloomquist]

Looking in June 2014, no luck

I just called Wyndham to see if any WorldMark resorts might be available now for a June reservation. I was told that since I was not one of the "select", I would have to wait until June 1st to reserve anything in June.

I just love this program.

Jim

 

[lcml11]

Yikes, I wasn't paying much attentions to the Club Pass thing - figured I'd figure it out when I needed to. Since it's now affecting ME, I'm paying attention and trying to catch up real quick.

YUCK! Trying to book some rooms for a family wedding in San Diego in September. Last time I checked, I was able to view inventory at the 2 WorldMarks in San Diego. Not anymore -- now I get a 'Club Pass - Coming to a theater near you' message.

Called Wyndham and was transferred to a special 'Club Pass' group (sorry if I am repeating what's been said above - tried to skim quickly).

* There are no plans for online viewing of WM inventory by Wyndham owners (necessary so they can control the inventory they will make available).
* Today, if you call in, you can reserve through Aug 15.
* Today, they cannot even check inventory in September for me.
* After June 1 (if the program goes live as scheduled), I can call in to check availability for September
* Random people were selected for a VIPeek program (all my Wyndham emails get automatically directed to a folder that I rarely even look at, so if I was invited, I did not notice). VIPeekers can reserve now using the new Club Pass program (just one more disadvantage for me if I call after June 1).
* Club Pass VC forgot to mention anything about developer only or $99 transfer fee

Unless I am totally off base - I don't expect this is a "perk" I'll ever use. Great job Wyndham - it's 2014 and you took away my ability to do something online, added fees, and made it impossible for me to book rooms past August 15 while I wait for the program to go live.

The funniest part is them painting this as a benefit. Thanks but no thanks, I'll be sticking to Wyndham properties.

Answering both this post and the post that followed it, sorry about the observation in this post, this is just confirming what I had been told earlier about some inventory just going away to Club Wyndham Pass that could be formally booked. They did tell me there was the transfer fees to get the units that go there. The Worldmark inventory was specifically identified as the first inventory that was shifting.

To the second poster, do not feel bad, two or three reservations people told me about the June 1st trick. The fact that I am VIP Platinum made no difference.

It does not surprise me that a select relatively few are getting the 1st dibs on the better inventory.

Take it for what it is worth, Wyndham Sales indicated to me recently that on the Wyndham Club Plus side, all Wyndham Club Access resorts are joining the Wyndham Club Pass program.

I would not be at all surprised that some or all of us will be paying a transfer fee for reservations that were formally available through Wyndham Club Plus, even for Wyndham Club Access resorts.

I have been labeled a Fairfield owner by Wyndham Sales. I fully expect that I will also not be taking advantage of what apparently is developing as my right to pay Wyndham more money to get was what formally available to me.

I like the former Fairfield resorts. Can live without the rest.

Will be interesting to see if the New Orleans Club Wyndham Access inventory joins the Wyndham Club Pass program in whole or in part.

It is interesting that at least initially, a special group is/has been established to handle Wyndham Club Pass.

To track this mess now that the Beta Version of Wyndham Club Pass appears to be operational, that suggests the key components of what is left of Voyager are also now operating.

If anyone has been selected as part of favored few that can availability under Wyndham Club Pass, can you post wish Wyndham Club Plus/Access Resorts are currently showing up in inventory.

 

[ronparise]

Answering both this post and the post that followed it, sorry about the observation in this post, this is just confirming what I had been told earlier about some inventory just going away to Club Wyndham Pass that could be formally booked. They did tell me there was the transfer fees to get the units that go there. The Worldmark inventory was specifically identified as the first inventory that was shifting.

To the second poster, do not feel bad, two or three reservations people told me about the June 1st trick. The fact that I am VIP Platinum made no difference.

It does not surprise me that a select relatively few are getting the 1st dibs on the better inventory.

Take it for what it is worth, Wyndham Sales indicated to me recently that on the Wyndham Club Plus side, all Wyndham Club Access resorts are joining the Wyndham Club Pass program.

I would not be at all surprised that some or all of us will be paying a transfer fee for reservations that were formally available through Wyndham Club Plus, even for Wyndham Club Access resorts.

I have been labeled a Fairfield owner by Wyndham Sales. I fully expect that I will also not be taking advantage of what apparently is developing as my right to pay Wyndham more money to get was what formally available to me.

I like the former Fairfield resorts. Can live without the rest.

Will be interesting to see if the New Orleans Club Wyndham Access inventory joins the Wyndham Club Pass program in whole or in part.

It is interesting that at least initially, a special group is/has been established to handle Wyndham Club Pass.

To track this mess now that the Beta Version of Wyndham Club Pass appears to be operational, that suggests the key components of what is left of Voyager are also now operating.

If anyone has been selected as part of favored few that can availability under Wyndham Club Pass, can you post wish Wyndham Club Plus/Access Resorts are currently showing up in inventory.

Regardig the New Orleans properties...Didnt you already answer your question when you said all the CWA properties would be available to Worldmark owners at 9 months

By the way Worldmark already owns 63 units(3276 weeks) at the Avenue Plaza resort\

And how do you figure "better inventory"

 

[snickers104]

I have been reading and watching posts in this thread for awhile now.....still don't see how it will cause any problems for a Wyndham owner that bought resale. I bought Wyndham for the Wyndham properties...and will still be able to book those. Just my 2 pennies worth.

 

[ronparise]

I have been reading and watching posts in this thread for awhile now.....still don't see how it will cause any problems for a Wyndham owner that bought resale. I bought Wyndham for the Wyndham properties...and will still be able to book those. Just my 2 pennies worth.

The fear is that 250000 Worldmark owners will jump all over the wyndham inventory at 9 months.... Of course Worldmark owners are afraid that we Wyndham folk will be all over their inventory.

And the complaint is that this new opportunity to exchange what you own, reserved for developer purchases only, will be so special that it will render our resale points worthless in comparison.

You are right..Much ado about nothing

 

[lcml11]

The fear is that 250000 Worldmark owners will jump all over the wyndham inventory at 9 months.... Of course Worldmark owners are afraid that we Wyndham folk will be all over their inventory.

And the complaint is that this new opportunity to exchange what you own, reserved for developer purchases only, will be so special that it will render our resale points worthless in comparison.

You are right..Much ado about nothing

Or, in the alternative, the old Fairfield owners and the successor owners will be the big winners.

Interesting thread. Related or not? I do not know.

http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205647

 

[Bigrob]

Or, in the alternative, the old Fairfield owners and the successor owners will be the big winners.

Interesting thread. Related or not? I do not know.

http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205647

Not really. I don't see any winners out of this. Other than Wyndham Corporate.

 

[ronparise]

Or, in the alternative, the old Fairfield owners and the successor owners will be the big winners.

Interesting thread. Related or not? I do not know.

http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205647

Your going to have to explain that one to me

We are all old Fairfield owners or successor owners, I think

All our deeds are pledged to the Fairshare Trust, just like in the Fairfield days

 

[lcml11]

Your going to have to explain that one to me

We are all old Fairfield owners of successor owners, I think

All our deeds are pledged to the Fairshare Trust, just like in the Fairfield days

Easy explaination. Simply put, I think the re-sale owners of the old Fairfield deeds, points or otherwise, may very well be the big winners when the day is done. The availability for the traditional UDI weeks under Wyndham Club plus that were sold not through Club Wyndham Access I think may have more availability in Resort Specials and the VIP Windows.

Even if availability for Wyndham Resorts goes to the Wyndham Club Pass system through the new exchange system, a bunch of points go with it for the more desirable in demand resorts hopefully leaving the orphaned time frames (off-season and the units that do not fall into the hands of Club Wyndham Access) open for the people that are not necessarily chasing the more desirable time frames in the newer higher priced resorts.

 

[vacationhopeful]

Easy explaination. Simply put, I think the re-sale owners of the old Fairfield deeds, points or otherwise, may very well be the big winners when the day is done. The availability for the traditional UDI weeks under Wyndham Club plus that were sold not through Club Wyndham Access I think may have more availability in Resort Specials and the VIP Windows.

Even if availability for Wyndham Resorts goes to the Wyndham Club Pass system through the new exchange system, a bunch of points go with it for the more desirable in demand resorts hopefully leaving the orphaned time frames (off-season and the units that do not fall into the hands of Club Wyndham Access) open for the people that are not necessarily chasing the more desirable time frames in the newer higher priced resorts.

WHAT IS THIS DRIBBLE? Are you drooling also?

 

[vacationhopeful]

Corporate Wyndham has just found another way to fleece it's captive market of owners. They added a (current, but sure to rise) $99 fee to its "special" developer only buyers (smucks) to use something that was FREE.

The rational the Customer Service Agents have been grilled to say, "this is going to make MORE inventory available to CWP or CWA owners" could be labeled as "retarded'. (The owners are the members of Worldmark - it is an inventory trade. Plus, the percentage of RESALE owners in Worldmark can't be that far off from CWP or CWA population).

The ONLY thing that has changed is the ADDED $99 fee and the perceived "value" of booking vacation time in Worldmark.

So, to "help" with this problem, Brian should "tweek" his internal exchange function here on TUG ...

 

[lcml11]

WHAT IS THIS DRIBBLE? Are you drooling also?

Points go to RCI for a exchange, now that Wyndham Club Pass appears to be operational for the select few based on points being given for what appears to be designated units that formally used to be available to Wyndham Club Plus members, those points, more than likely, will be used to scarf up the better timeframes and resorts from Club Wyndham Access et. al. This would then presumably leave more off season resorts go to the discount windows.

The mega rentor group would be the ones that could afford to take the $99 fee and pass it on to their customers for the high demand resorts. I am sure a lot of mega rentors would just use the Pass system and forget to mention they are renting to Wyndham and just call the person a friend or guest.

This, by the way, is not inaccurate. If I were a mega rentor, all of my customers would be my friends. Hey, they are my customers after all.

Maybe Club Wyndham Pass should be re-named Club Wyndham Preferred for the select few. The subscript could then read, by invitation only.

 

[ronparise]

Easy explaination. Simply put, I think the re-sale owners of the old Fairfield deeds, points or otherwise, may very well be the big winners when the day is done. The availability for the traditional UDI weeks under Wyndham Club plus that were sold not through Club Wyndham Access I think may have more availability in Resort Specials and the VIP Windows.

Even if availability for Wyndham Resorts goes to the Wyndham Club Pass system through the new exchange system, a bunch of points go with it for the more desirable in demand resorts hopefully leaving the orphaned time frames (off-season and the units that do not fall into the hands of Club Wyndham Access) open for the people that are not necessarily chasing the more desirable time frames in the newer higher priced resorts.

Im not saying you are wrong, I just dont understand what you are saying,

You seem to be making a distinction between the old Fairfield resorts and the new UDI resorts, But both are part of club pass. and both are and have been available to all Wyndham points owners. Remember "points are points"

You talk about availability going to Club Pass. as if it leaves Club Wyndham when it does... I dont think thats true. The available Wyndham inventory will still be available to us Wyndham owners, but at 9 months will be available to a select number of Worldmark owners too

And why do you call out Club Wyndham access? This inventory is available to all Wyndham points owners at 10 months and whats available at 9 months will become available to Worldmark owners too. Thats no different than inventory that is not part of CWA


No doubt Wyndham is trying to make points bought from them seem much more valuable than points bought on the secondary market. And to give their salesmen another benefit to talk about (more dots on the map (more vacation choices) is a favorite topic. But we dont need you trying to add to the confusion with what Linda called "Dribble" But as we know, "Points are Points" and that wont change with Club Pass

Dont try to draw a line between old Fairfield owners, CWA members, UDI owners etc etc... we all own points and again as you know, but refuse to acknowledge, Points are Points.... If a resale owner wants those Worldmark resorts available to them, all they have to do is buy a few Worldmark Credits.(on the secondary market).