That ration 1:16.4 was info provided by a member of th Worldmark Board of Directors. He is in a position to know. A typical 2 bedroom in one of the older Worldmark resorts is 10000 credits in red season , but the newer resorts are often more. You can see the credits requirements for each resort by going to www.worldmarktheclub.com and clicking on the "resort gallery" link. That will bring up a map. drill down to an individual resort and the seasons and credits requirements are posted there... apply the 1:16.4 ratio and there you are.
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That ration 1:16.4 was info provided by a member of th Worldmark Board of Directors. He is in a position to know. A typical 2 bedroom in one of the older Worldmark resorts is 10000 credits in red season , but the newer resorts are often more. You can see the credits requirements for each resort by going to www.worldmarktheclub.com and clicking on the "resort gallery" link. That will bring up a map. drill down to an individual resort and the seasons and credits requirements are posted there... apply the 1:16.4 ratio and there you are.
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I just applied the 1:16.4 ratio to Wyndham/WorldMark Angels Camp, where I'll be in a couple of weeks, and it works out perfectly for the 1,2, and 3 BR.
Had better luck to day at the resort for information. Voyager, the portion that is going forward is going to focus on a tighter connection between the Corporate reservation system, the Property Management Groupm, and the Resorts.
Voyager is not the scheduled down time that was mentioned in a thread.
Old Town Alexandria and National Harbor are expected to be part of Club Wyndham Pass.
No particularly new information here.
If anyone else is out in Resorts this weekend, maybe you can ask Resort Management about Voyager and that Resorts involvement in Club Wyndham Pass and post their responses.
Voyager is not the scheduled down time that was mentioned in a thread.
Old Town Alexandria and National Harbor are expected to be part of Club Wyndham Pass.
No particularly new information here.
If anyone else is out in Resorts this weekend, maybe you can ask Resort Management about Voyager and that Resorts involvement in Club Wyndham Pass and post their responses.
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The folks at the resort should have no more information about Voyager and Club Wyndham Pass than we do. Their job is to manage the property, keep the rooms clean and grass mowed and bushes trimmed. They dont have anything to do with reservations or exchange clubs or companies. Why ask them about those things.
persia
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Kept seeking infomation. A couple of points emerged.
Unrelated point, Sales staff at Old Town Alexandria came up with a new sales pitch. It pitches purchase in a company for professionals (an Attorney in this case) and use their client base as the actual users of the reservations.
More on point, Membership Services was very helpful and informative. Regarding Shell and Club Wyndham Pass, he indicated that the Shell resorts coming under the scope of Club Wyndham Pass were the resorts with dots on the Shell site. It appears to be all of them. http://www.shellvacationsclub.com/club/svcresorts.jsp
For people out their that think they get good info from resorts because they are nice, posting the location of the resort, who the info was received from, and what the information is would add to the collective knowledge.
If Wyndham Old Town Alexandria is right, I welcome the upcoming access to Wyndham availability from the Shell system, even if a fee is involved.
He also gave me a list of the current Club Wyndham Access Resorts point out that Wyndham Old Town Alexandria is now on it, he indicated it was updated last week. He printed it from the Wyndham site. It came from the on-line learning part of the site. I counted 69 resorts listed. As far as I can tell, the 8 Affiliate Shell resorts have not shown up yet.
Again maybe the nice people can weasel information coming down the Shell and Worldmark lines. From one weasel to another, the sales weasels would not be a bad starting point.
I do not know for sure whether the 8 Shell Affiliates are going to show up under the Club Wyndham Plus/Access program or Wyndham Club Pass or both. However, here are their names. If they go to Club Wyndham Access the number of resorts would go 77.
8 New Associate Locations in 2014
Announcement posted on Wyndham Vacation Resorts website:
Club Wyndham will be adding eight new Shell Vacations Club locations to the program in 2014 including:
Americana Home Group: Orange Tree Golf Resort – Scottsdale, Arizona
The Legacy Golf Resort – Phoenix, Arizona
Crotched Mountain Resort – Francestown, New Hampshire
Vino Bello Resort – Napa, California
Carriage Ridge Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Carriage Hills Resort – Shanty Bay, Ontario
Peacock Suites – Anaheim, California
Starr Pass Golf Suites – Tucson, Arizona
The Shell Vacation Club site is showing the following as part of their availability:
Wyndham Grande Chicago
Wyndham Midtown 45
Wyndham San Diego Bayside
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Au contraire my friend, the heart of the Voyager system is the attempted hook-up of the resorts, property management, and reservations. Some tend to have tunnel vision when looking at Wyndham Club Plus and miss how this relatively small cog in the bigger Wyndham World fits in.
Same for the comment on Wyndham the Wyndham Club Pass system, this attempted integration of various Wyndham Vacation Ownership systems has a number of the small cogs in play.
I will work with you on this Ron.
Au contraire my friend, the heart of the Voyager system is the attempted hook-up of the resorts, property management, and reservations. Some tend to have tunnel vision when looking at Wyndham Club Plus and miss how this relatively small cog in the bigger Wyndham World fits in.
Same for the comment on Wyndham the Wyndham Club Pass system, this attempted integration of various Wyndham Vacation Ownership systems has a number of the small cogs in play.
I will work with you on this Ron.
Tschuss
Not sure about this. Per Old Town Alexandria Member Services, Club Wyndham Pass has been set up and is becoming another RCI.
Remember, Wyndham got tagged by the RCI Weeks and RCI Points lawsuit. This may be as simple as a re-action to those lawsuits.
Doing a good job at it to I might add. Their being fee for service is $99 vs. the RCI fee which is significantly higher. This would not be the first time Wyndham had more than one system in the same industry.
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GregT, I fully agree with you that this "PASS" system is just another way to get more CASH from the Wyndham owners. Taking something that was FREE and now charging $99 to exchange into.
Additionally, by adding the conditions that this inventory can NOT be rented nor can points brought off the RESALE market places be use to make reservations, it is an attempt to "subclass" Wyndham points ownership into an "Elite" and bargain basement.
It is also a way to introduce the limited Shell Vacation Club inventory to both Worldmark and the various Wyndham points clubs (Plus and CWA) while Shell continues with its contractual II relationship for awhile. It could be considered a cash generator OR sales leads for more Developer sales. There are some large Shell club points members --- there being a very limited number of Shell resorts. To offer Shell locations as a PASS to CWA or CWP owners could be attractive. Shell owners could trade within the total WVO group. Just a swapping of inventory -- all generating the $99 exchange fee (an increasing exchange fee).
ADDED: Would Wyndham continue to SELL Shell as a separate system? I would ALWAYS suspect Wyndham to keep a SALES PRESENCE at all their resorts - but selling Shell at the Shell locations? Might be more of selling CWA - a generic CLUB property verses a deeded property.
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Especially if WVO stops bulk deposits into RCI and shifts them over to Club Wyndham Pass. If this were done, then it should be a wash for rentors since technically renting from either availability pool would not be permitted.
I have heard of the selling of unsold Shell Inventory into the Club Wyndham Access program from a couple of resorts over the years, but it does not appear to be coming soon based on the Sales Presentation I was at at Shawnee Village recently. I am seriously considering buying one when this happens (Oh my, I might even do it from the developer).
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Oh, Robert, just cross over to the dark side.... buy a Shell resale membership. Get 6,000-9,000 Shell points --- many are free with closing costs included. Some even have a year's worth of FREE points and banked points from last year.
Of course, almost all their locations are a FLY to for you -- but they are nice with many city locals.
Of course, almost all their locations are a FLY to for you -- but they are nice with many city locals.
learnalot
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You are speculating wildly about things you appear not to even understand. Wyndham makes deposits to RCI because Wyndham owners have elected to deposit points with RCI. To suggest that these would be "shifted over" to Wyndham Pass is to fail to grasp the basic nature of the transaction. Speculating MILDLY myself, I don't think there will be a question of any inventory being "shifted" to Wyndham Pass, which would pull it out of the parent system. Rather I suspect that it will simply become "visible" to all applicable ownerships at the 9 month mark- just as Wyndham inventory not booked during ARP becomes visible to all Wyndham points owners at 10 months.
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205135
You are right, I do not know much about the Wyndham bulk deposit program(s) other than I have seen it mentioned a few times with some limited chatter about it.
It would be interesting to know which resorts are being bulk deposited and where that inventory is coming from.
See my post at 139 for the answer to the million dollar question.
For a very interesting response to the OP in the linked thread, look at post number 2.
Could you expand on the comments expressed in that thread?
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His fingers work just fine --- it is the processor controlling those fingers that is way off.
The processor works just fine on my Windows 7 and 8 systems now that I have made some changes. At least the malware that keeps flooding me with re-sale timeshare adds when I use TUG have disappeared.
Try deleting Norton, Norton according to my teckie that broke the code was keeping Wyndows defender in the off position that permitted it to be turned by on.
On the Windows 8 system, I was able to download an upgrade.
I took your comments literally, I did not care for the other implication.
Maybe you could shed some additional light on the Wyndham Bulk deposit system.
Always a pleasant surprise to stop the adds from the dark side.
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Bigrob
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Not so sure it was an implication. Unless you are referring to the term as in "he was implicated in XYZ".
While ads are annoying, it would annoy me more still to have paid retail for my points. Although most of the ads I see tend to be related to the assumption that I am desperate to relieve myself of my timeshares.
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That is them.
learnalot
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Deposits to RCI come from unbooked inventory - not usually before about the 8 month mark. It is "paid for" using the points Wyndham owners have chosen to deposit to RCI.
Thanks, always wondered what happened to those points. Learn something new everyday.
Now I understand. Bulk deposits come from the points owners put into RCI for other accommodations. To the extent that a Wyndham/RCI user puts points they formerly used in RCI in Club Wyndham Pass, a corresponding shift of actual timeshare weeks would pass from RCI to Club Wyndham Pass and the owner pockets a significant reservation fee savings by shifting the use from RCI to Wyndham Club Pass.
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Bigrob
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Well... that might be true if all the RCI resorts were available through WCP. But as I understand it, there are only the Worldmark and 6 Shell Vacation Club locations available through WCP right now. Considerably more limited than the 4000+ locations in RCI.
Agreed. It is unlikely that the three Wyndham Clubs appear to be involved are going to spread to non-Wyndham facilities anytime soon.
What are the six Shell Vacation Club facilities that you believe are now part of Club Wyndham Pass? Also, the identity of their Shell Home Club, if you know it?
Bigrob
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"Now" is probably a misnomer... destined to be part of WCP when it rolls out in June would be more accurate. I don't know which resorts but I'll ask my contact tomorrow.