Complimenting HGVC with other Timeshares

[4TimeAway]

It’s accepted and common, even in the hotel industry. Many car rental companies require you to be in their 20’s.

There seem to be a couple of companies that just want the money and a few that really want to keep the policy alive but can be flexible. I had never thought of this though and appreciate the heads up.

Kids generally want to travel with parents so it’s free for them and I suspect that will be the trend here.

The main concern seems to be minibars and damage potential. A credit card in their name with possibly a parent phone call to be sure there will be no issues should solve the problem. My thought is worst case, you call it a business meeting and give them a business card.

Some places like Japan apparently 20 is the age of majority. Oh, the things we learn from the internet.

The Auto issue is the youthful drive challenge and based on liability, so I get that. There might be a way around that also, but I don't intend to solve that one!

 

[GT75]

HGVC GS requires a minimum age of 18.

 

[alwysonvac]

Thanks so much. This is the information I was looking for. Appreciate it,

You're welcome.

For anyone interested in WorldMark, definitely spend some time on the TUG WorldMark Forum

Worldmark The Club

Forum for discussion of all Worldmark Timeshares and related topics!

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Here are a few WM threads

Considering WM for 1st TS

Hello everyone. We recently purchased HGV from the developer, but between the high price and some family drama, decided to rescind. However, we've enjoyed enough marketing stays to catch the timeshare bug, and we think it's definitely something that could improve our family vacations. One of the...

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WorldMark Booking Experience Question

hey Guys, Looking to buy worldmark for the first time (first time share also). I was wondering how the booking experience is for people. How does Worldmark balance # of points sold vs availability of existing resort? it seems it would get harder for people to book because its the same # of...

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How do some members tie-up key units 13 months out?

My wife and I have been WorldMark members since the old Trendwest days 20+ years ago. Now that we are slowing down and traveling more we are trying to better plan our trips. But I am noticing that when I choose to go to highly desirable places (e.g. Worldmark Indio for Coachella for the music...

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What is the most efficient amount of points?

I want to pick up a WM resale contract. So if I wanted only one contract (and maybe deposit to II) what size contract should I get?

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Monday madness/bonus time etc?

Apparently it’s going to be a few more months for access to my worldmark account to get set up. I’m curious on what kind of deals they usually run for those specials?

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Pros/Cons of WorldMark ownership

Hello all. Im new to TS’s and I’ve been researching the Worldmark timeshare listings (as suggested by other TUG users) and I must say they don’t look too bad. Quite a few are relatively driveable from my area in Canada (Alberta), and they look to be decent accommodations. When I research more...

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View from the WM Balcony

They have done this in other threads, so why not a WM version. Marble Falls ROOM 2202 and from ROOM 10204 a few weeks prior to that.

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What Is Your Favorite Candian WM Property?

I did a search and a lot of the posts seem dated, so has anyone been recently? I am open to anyone and I can't ski but just looking for a fun experience and sights. :) thanks!

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New Owner in Worldmark. Looking to plan a trip to Hawaii

Hi, New owner here. Looking to book a trip to Hawaii for June/July 2022. I also have a Marriott week deposited in II for the same time. What is the best Worldmark resort for an Anniversary trip (30 years). We love to hike and she love beaches. Thanks!

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[alwysonvac]

WorldMark doesn't have a reservation fee but there are housekeeping fees and resort taxes (see links below).

• WM Resort taxes - https://tugbbs.com/forums/attachments/wbw-tax-resort-alerts-pdf.79435/
• WM Housekeeping Fee - https://tugbbs.com/forums/attachments/current-rates-and-fees-pdf.77819/
• WM 2023 Dues (aka MF) - https://tugbbs.com/forums/attachments/wm_2023_dues-pdf.77836/

Update: Corrected links in previous post.

 

[Mongoose]

HGVC GS requires a minimum age of 18.
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That’s because you are solely responsible for any damage.

 

[Eric B]

Worldmark is a pure points system - called Worldmark Credits, no deeds. There are a few resorts where you can buy a deeded ownership, but those deeds only allow you to book at that resort - not other WM properties.

Resale buyers are exactly the same in terms of rights and benefits provided by the Club - same WM resorts they can book, same ability to book 13 months out at all resorts, same ability to exchange with II and/or RCI, and same cash booking options. Buying Worldmark Credits directly from Wyndham offers a few benefits that you do not receive if you buy resale - access to exchanges directly booked with Worldmark South Pacific and the Club Pass (access to Club Wyndham resorts). Buying resale, as always here on TUG, is recommended.

Slight correction - the four WorldMark resorts where you can buy deeded ownership were sold in small part as fractionals of one week per quarter making 4 weeks in a year. If you own one of those you can use the weeks, rent them, or pay a very modest fee to convert a week to WorldMark credits (not permanently though you can do it as often as you want). The fractionals are fixed unit rotating weeks and generally work out to a lower cost per credit than straight WorldMark contracts even taking into account the conversion cost.

 

[rog2867]

we own Vitana (westin) they have some nice properties but they have not build anything new in a long time. Resale wise though unless you buy one of the mandatory resorts you can't convert to points to use at the other resorts.

 

[90_Min_Sales_Pitch]

When you book with WM, can you book RCI 1 and II properties? Do you pay same booking fees or less with WM? How much is booking fee for WM properties? Thx

I think WM is a great choice, especially for those of us on the West Coast. You'll have cheaper access to Marriott properties exchanging through Interval, than those who actually own Marriott. We're currently in transition from a HGVC gold week in Orlando, to a platinum contract in Las Vegas, but it was tempting to switch to WM.

 

[Mongoose]

I think WM is a great choice, especially for those of us on the West Coast. You'll have cheaper access to Marriott properties exchanging through Interval, than those who actually own Marriott. We're currently in transition from a HGVC gold week in Orlando, to a platinum contract in Las Vegas, but it was tempting to switch to WM.

I own both. The only caution I would have is that WM locations are not the same luxury accommodations as HGVC. They are more midscale. WM is great for shorter trips and lesser known destinations, but it would not be my choice for Hawaii.

 

[90_Min_Sales_Pitch]

I own both. The only caution I would have is that WM locations are not the same luxury accommodations as HGVC. They are more midscale. WM is great for shorter trips and lesser known destinations, but it would not be my choice for Hawaii.

This is why we are sticking with HGVC, Ohau and Las Vegas, location alone there is no comparison.

 

[Mongoose]

This is why we are sticking with HGVC, Ohau and Las Vegas, location alone there is no comparison.

I just stayed in Lagoon tower and enjoyed it. I was concerned because the campus has like 4000 units.

 

[90_Min_Sales_Pitch]

I just stayed in Lagoon tower and enjoyed it. I was concerned because the campus has like 4000 units.

We stayed at Hokaloni last year, right in downtown Waikiki. Smaller property, but you're so close everything, immediately down the escalator.

We bought Wyndham in Kona for the attractive MF, and figured we would prefer a location within the city. Good thing we did, our contract landed with double the points advertised, cheaper per point in MF than anything on the chart!

 

[Mongoose]

We stayed at Hokaloni last year, right in downtown Waikiki. Smaller property, but you're so close everything, immediately down the escalator.

We bought Wyndham in Kona for the attractive MF, and figured we would prefer a location within the city. Good thing we did, our contract landed with double the points advertised, cheaper per point in MF than anything on the chart!

How do you like Wyndham? They look good on paper, but their reputation isn’t the best.

 

[90_Min_Sales_Pitch]

How do you like Wyndham? They look good on paper, but their reputation isn’t the best.

I like the wider inventory, Sunday nights counting as weeknights, and the properties are similar in quality to WM (better than HGV/DRI). Specifically in Sedona and Kona, where 3 star hotels are pushing upwards of $400 per night, we're breaking even on MF in just a 3 nights. Given that our Kona contract came with double the points, we're using some of those extra points for room upgrades and optional late checkout / extra night. It is easy to overlook a few things when you're getting such great value.

On the negative, they're generally a step down from HGVC. The presentations are much more aggressive, deceptive, and persuasive. The website can be glitchy, and it took them forever to get their new payments processing correctly. My Wyndham Business card earns nothing on MF (not even 1X), so I use my IHG card instead.

 

[GTLINZ]

I skimmed thru this so i apologize for any repeats.

I would think it makes sense to define if you prefer a lot of locations or prefer a few targeted locations. Quality and MFs are a consideration. I think you also want to consider Hawaii locations since an easy plane ride away.

WorldMark does sound like a great option with lots of locations in western locations - low MF, quality may not be so high. I am not familiar with it.

Grand Pacific has some great west locations, is not a points system. Likely more expensive - the 3 resorts i visited were all good quality but not like HGVC. GPX is a great way to get cheaper extra vacations. I looked into it years ago but live on East coast and we focus more on that now. We traveled a lot to Cali years ago and loved it.

This is what I chose to supplement my HGVC ownership - a HRC (Hyatt) deeded week. I use for II access, and I love the Bonita Springs location with the private beach, and also Key West. It is high quality like HGVC (often better). Can get for a reasonable price resale. Expensive MF but is a points system and great exchange rate in Interval. Interval getaways are great and I think the Interval intentory is far better than non-HGVC RCI inventory. Carmel, Tahoe and Sedona are great western locations and you would also have lots of ski options. Maui is an option but VERY hard to get internal exhanges (kinda like Ocean Oak with HGVC).

One of my favorite Cali locations which ironically is available thru II and RCI is San Luis Bay Inn. Almost bought there. That may now be part of HGVC Max - i know they had a lot of DRI intentory before but you could buy weeks when I looked. Maybe it used to trade thru GPX as an affiliate ???

 

[Mongoose]

I like the wider inventory, Sunday nights counting as weeknights, and the properties are similar in quality to WM (better than HGV/DRI).

I'm surprised by this. I thought DRI had decent albeit expensive resorts.

 

[Eric B]

My Wyndham Business card earns nothing on MF (not even 1X), so I use my IHG card instead.

Contact Barclays and complain about not getting points for MF for whatever ones you didn't get. The terms and conditions for the card omits points for loan payments/Wyndham timeshare purchase but allows points for MFs. They just typically improperly code them.

 

[90_Min_Sales_Pitch]

I'm surprised by this. I thought DRI had decent albeit expensive resorts.

I stayed at 2 DRI properties before the acquisition, and they were nothing alike. One was a nice resort that had seen better days, older mattress. The other was cabin style in the mountains, kept up very well, comfortable, but had very few amenities. We stayed at a rebranded HGV property last year, and it was not renovated. The bedroom wall had obvious water damage, the carpet crusty, exterior stucco damage, etc. Maybe Hilton will work to make improvements.

DRI was an acquisition company only, and only bought inventory from other struggling timeshare companies. That's why their resorts can have such a drastic range from high end resorts to converted hotels.

Contact Barclays and complain about not getting points for MF for whatever ones you didn't get. The terms and conditions for the card omits points for loan payments/Wyndham timeshare purchase but allows points for MFs. They just typically improperly code them.

That is true for the Earner and Earner+ cards, but not the Business Earner (at least when I looked it up).