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American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

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American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

ROME—Travel has been one of the most deeply gutted industries of the global coronavirus pandemic, so it should come as no surprise that many countries that rely on it for so much of their GDP are getting anxious about when they can start opening up. But travel is not just about the destination...
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:cry: This looks like an update on an article from a travel blogger a few weeks ago that said France and the head of the E.U. is thinking of closing their borders to all except Schengen countries until September 1st. The USA was on short list of other countries they don't want coming in because of all the Covid cases . I I told my husband that as long as I can get into Bavaria, Germany I will be happy but that is moving further away . BAVARIA...…" Bitte, let me in, Danke
 
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Hi from what I'm hearing, it's still under discussion. I'll post any updates.
 
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This is another reason dd and I are thinking of postponing our river cruise until 2022.
 
Yes makes total sense considering 'per capita/million of population" there are several Schengen countries with higher counts :rolleyes: - Including right next door in Spain,Belgium and Luxembourg.
 
Every country has a right to ban whoever they want. But many countries in Europe have a higher death rate than the USA. Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden and the Netherlands are all higher than the USA on a per capital basis. Switzerland is almost as high. I assume the bans will be reciprocal.

Country,
Other		Total
Cases		New
Cases		Total
Deaths		New
Deaths		Total
Recovered		Active
Cases		Serious,
Critical		Tot Cases/
1M pop		Deaths/
1M pop		Total
Tests		Tests/
1M pop
San Marino643+541 161441218,9501,2083,20194,339
Belgium53,981+2028,843 +8213,93731,2014204,658763605,23752,222
Andorra760+249 +157613539,8366341,67321,653
Spain271,095+1,57527,104 +184183,22760,7641,5345,7985802,467,76152,781
Italy222,104+88831,106 +195112,54178,4578933,6735142,735,62845,246
UK229,705+3,24233,186 +494N/A196,1751,5593,3844892,094,20930,849
France178,22526,991 57,78593,4492,5422,7304141,384,63321,213
Sint Maarten7615 461571,7733503297,673
Sweden27,909+6373,460 +1474,97119,4783512,763343177,50017,576
Netherlands43,211+2275,562 +52N/A37,3994322,522325275,72016,091
Ireland23,2421,488 17,1104,644724,707301258,80852,414
Isle of Man332+123 27237203,9042703,91246,006
USA1,413,630+4,99483,745 +320299,0081,030,87716,4734,2712539,985,94230,169
Channel Islands54742 455503,1462425,34230,725
Switzerland30,413+331,870 +326,8001,743793,514216322,08437,215
 
The US per capita death rate is rising rapidly. I'm sure we will be #1 soon enough.

Although Sweden just passed the US.
 
Monykalyn said:
Yes makes total sense considering 'per capita/million of population" there are several Schengen countries with higher counts :rolleyes: - Including right next door in Spain,Belgium and Luxembourg.
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That there might be other countries on my short list doesn't mean that the US doesn't rightfully belong on it.

c.f. whataboutism.
 
Brian,
I do agree with you because I wouldn't want us either, but I am VERY sad about it :bawl:. When its all said and done, Bavaria is hands down my favorite country and we have been to over 40 countries . We go there twice a year.
 
Bunk said:
Brett: I don't think too many New Yorkers have manners that are good enough to pass as Canadiens. And we give ourselves away with jaywalking and pronouncing "out"
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When traveling in Europe my dd would just wear her UBC or Canada hoodie and keep her mouth shut.
 
Today, the EU Commision issued their guidance on how to reboot Europe's tourist industry in 2020. I skimmed through it and was impressed. It is a comprehensive plan that provides detailed guidelines for tour operators, hoteliers, transportation providers, restaurants, and just about anyone else associated with the travel industry. From what I can gather, the approach is to first allow tourism among the 27 EU nations, then hopefully expand it later. It's appears to be a solid plan driven by science. It's a lot of info, but here's the link to download the pdf's; https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_20_854
 
I am not sure many Americans are jumping at the chance to go to Europe right now or in the near future anyway. I am sure there will be travel bans based on citizenship for a long time to come.
 
Brett said:
Oh thank goodness.
I keep hearing about US citizens pretending to be from Canada when traveling, wearing "maple leaf' hats !
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Naahh! It's just us Canadians in our Maple Leaf hats (or sometimes Yankees hats...OMG, did I just say that!?!), pretending to be Americans in case we commit a faux pas and don't want anyone to "blame Canada"!!! LOL!!! :p
 
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Every country has a right to ban whoever they want. But many countries in Europe have a higher death rate than the USA. Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden and the Netherlands are all higher than the USA on a per capital basis. Switzerland is almost as high. I assume the bans will be reciprocal.

Country,
Other		Total
Cases		New
Cases		Total
Deaths		New
Deaths		Total
Recovered		Active
Cases		Serious,
Critical		Tot Cases/
1M pop		Deaths/
1M pop		Total
Tests		Tests/
1M pop
San Marino643+541161441218,9501,2083,20194,339
Belgium53,981+2028,843+8213,93731,2014204,658763605,23752,222
Andorra760+249+157613539,8366341,67321,653
Spain271,095+1,57527,104+184183,22760,7641,5345,7985802,467,76152,781
Italy222,104+88831,106+195112,54178,4578933,6735142,735,62845,246
UK229,705+3,24233,186+494N/A196,1751,5593,3844892,094,20930,849
France178,22526,99157,78593,4492,5422,7304141,384,63321,213
Sint Maarten7615461571,7733503297,673
Sweden27,909+6373,460+1474,97119,4783512,763343177,50017,576
Netherlands43,211+2275,562+52N/A37,3994322,522325275,72016,091
Ireland23,2421,48817,1104,644724,707301258,80852,414
Isle of Man332+12327237203,9042703,91246,006
USA1,413,630+4,99483,745+320299,0081,030,87716,4734,2712539,985,94230,169
Channel Islands54742455503,1462425,34230,725
Switzerland30,413+331,870+326,8001,743793,514216322,08437,215
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Here are the statistics for Canada. Based on the ranking of the chart by deaths/1M of population, Canada would be right at the bottom with 141 deaths/1M. That is an important part behind the general consensus not to reopen the Canada/US border anytime soon, or to permit the arrival of international travellers from overseas. Currently only essential commercial traffic or essential workers are permitted to cross the border in either direction. The first time in over 150 years.

Total
Cases		New
Cases		Total
Deaths		New
Deaths		Total
Recovered		Active
Cases		Serious,
Critical		Cases
/1M		Deaths
/1M		Total
Tests		Tests
/1M
Canada 72,2781,1215,30413335,16431,812 1,9171411,172,87231,111
 
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mav said:
Brian,
I do agree with you because I wouldn't want us either, but I am VERY sad about it :bawl:. When its all said and done, Bavaria is hands down my favorite country and we have been to over 40 countries . We go there twice a year.
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Mav, check flights. I see flights from Frankfurt to USA according to US Embassy. I'm not sure which cities. More flights will be opening up and the date I'm hearing is June 15th
 
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mav said:
www.yahoo.com

American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

ROME—Travel has been one of the most deeply gutted industries of the global coronavirus pandemic, so it should come as no surprise that many countries that rely on it for so much of their GDP are getting anxious about when they can start opening up. But travel is not just about the destination...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

:cry: This looks like an update on an article from a travel blogger a few weeks ago that said France and the head of the E.U. is thinking of closing their borders to all except Schengen countries until September 1st. The USA was on short list of other countries they don't want coming in because of all the Covid cases . I I told my husband that as long as I can get into Bavaria, Germany I will be happy but that is moving further away . BAVARIA...…" Bitte, let me in, Danke
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When are you planning to travel ?
 
:love:THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there
 
mav said:
:love:THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there
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July 3rd 2021?
 
mav said:
:love:THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there
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Germany is looking into travel bubbles rightvniw with Austria and Switzerland. It appears that EU countries don't want to lose the summer season yet alotvhas to do with flights espmfrom North America. I agree, probably need a reason right now. I would not give up hope just yet...keep an eye on the news and watch Lufthansa site for info.
 
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