American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

[mav]

American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

ROME—Travel has been one of the most deeply gutted industries of the global coronavirus pandemic, so it should come as no surprise that many countries that rely on it for so much of their GDP are getting anxious about when they can start opening up. But travel is not just about the destination...

www.yahoo.com

This looks like an update on an article from a travel blogger a few weeks ago that said France and the head of the E.U. is thinking of closing their borders to all except Schengen countries until September 1st. The USA was on short list of other countries they don't want coming in because of all the Covid cases . I I told my husband that as long as I can get into Bavaria, Germany I will be happy but that is moving further away . BAVARIA...…" Bitte, let me in, Danke

 

[nerodog]

Hi from what I'm hearing, it's still under discussion. I'll post any updates.

 

[bnoble]

If I were putting together a short list of countries I would close my borders to due to covid-19, the US would be on it.

 

[Luanne]

This is another reason dd and I are thinking of postponing our river cruise until 2022.

 

[Monykalyn]

Yes makes total sense considering 'per capita/million of population" there are several Schengen countries with higher counts - Including right next door in Spain,Belgium and Luxembourg.

 

[TravelTime]

Every country has a right to ban whoever they want. But many countries in Europe have a higher death rate than the USA. Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden and the Netherlands are all higher than the USA on a per capital basis. Switzerland is almost as high. I assume the bans will be reciprocal.

Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop
San Marino	643	+5	41		161	441	2	18,950	1,208	3,201	94,339
Belgium	53,981	+202	8,843	+82	13,937	31,201	420	4,658	763	605,237	52,222
Andorra	760	+2	49	+1	576	135	3	9,836	634	1,673	21,653
Spain	271,095	+1,575	27,104	+184	183,227	60,764	1,534	5,798	580	2,467,761	52,781
Italy	222,104	+888	31,106	+195	112,541	78,457	893	3,673	514	2,735,628	45,246
UK	229,705	+3,242	33,186	+494	N/A	196,175	1,559	3,384	489	2,094,209	30,849
France	178,225		26,991		57,785	93,449	2,542	2,730	414	1,384,633	21,213
Sint Maarten	76		15		46	15	7	1,773	350	329	7,673
Sweden	27,909	+637	3,460	+147	4,971	19,478	351	2,763	343	177,500	17,576
Netherlands	43,211	+227	5,562	+52	N/A	37,399	432	2,522	325	275,720	16,091
Ireland	23,242		1,488		17,110	4,644	72	4,707	301	258,808	52,414
Isle of Man	332	+1	23		272	37	20	3,904	270	3,912	46,006
USA	1,413,630	+4,994	83,745	+320	299,008	1,030,877	16,473	4,271	253	9,985,942	30,169
Channel Islands	547		42		455	50		3,146	242	5,342	30,725
Switzerland	30,413	+33	1,870	+3	26,800	1,743	79	3,514	216	322,084	37,215

 

[JohnPaul]

The US per capita death rate is rising rapidly. I'm sure we will be #1 soon enough.

Although Sweden just passed the US.

 

[Bunk]

Oy veh
I travel with a US passport, a NYS driver's license, and wear a Yankee hat.
To quote Cody Johnson, looks like I ain't goin nowhere baby

 

[bnoble]

Yes makes total sense considering 'per capita/million of population" there are several Schengen countries with higher counts - Including right next door in Spain,Belgium and Luxembourg.

That there might be other countries on my short list doesn't mean that the US doesn't rightfully belong on it.

c.f. whataboutism.

 

[mav]

Brian,
I do agree with you because I wouldn't want us either, but I am VERY sad about it . When its all said and done, Bavaria is hands down my favorite country and we have been to over 40 countries . We go there twice a year.

 

[mav]

Nerodog , please post any updates you see. Thank you

 

[Brett]

Oy veh
I travel with a US passport, a NYS driver's license, and wear a Yankee hat.
To quote Cody Johnson, looks like I ain't goin nowhere baby

Oh thank goodness.
I keep hearing about US citizens pretending to be from Canada when traveling, wearing "maple leaf' hats !

 

[Bunk]

Oh thank goodness.
I keep hearing about US citizens pretending to be from Canada when traveling, wearing "maple leaf' hats !

Brett: I don't think too many New Yorkers have manners that are good enough to pass as Canadiens. And we give ourselves away with jaywalking and pronouncing "out"

 

[Luanne]

Brett: I don't think too many New Yorkers have manners that are good enough to pass as Canadiens. And we give ourselves away with jaywalking and pronouncing "out"

When traveling in Europe my dd would just wear her UBC or Canada hoodie and keep her mouth shut.

 

[Monykalyn]

That there might be other countries on my short list doesn't mean that the US doesn't rightfully belong on it.

c.f. whataboutism.

Well I agree-but going strictly only by straight numbers ignores where the virus is more prevalent/dense.

 

[cman]

Today, the EU Commision issued their guidance on how to reboot Europe's tourist industry in 2020. I skimmed through it and was impressed. It is a comprehensive plan that provides detailed guidelines for tour operators, hoteliers, transportation providers, restaurants, and just about anyone else associated with the travel industry. From what I can gather, the approach is to first allow tourism among the 27 EU nations, then hopefully expand it later. It's appears to be a solid plan driven by science. It's a lot of info, but here's the link to download the pdf's; https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_20_854

 

[dioxide45]

I am not sure many Americans are jumping at the chance to go to Europe right now or in the near future anyway. I am sure there will be travel bans based on citizenship for a long time to come.

 

[Wyominguy]

I don't have any plans to travel to Europe this year but we do have a lengthy cruise booked for 2021 and I have no reason to apologize for being an American.

Neil

 

[CanuckTravlr]

Oh thank goodness.
I keep hearing about US citizens pretending to be from Canada when traveling, wearing "maple leaf' hats !

Naahh! It's just us Canadians in our Maple Leaf hats (or sometimes Yankees hats...OMG, did I just say that!?!), pretending to be Americans in case we commit a faux pas and don't want anyone to "blame Canada"!!! LOL!!!

 

[CanuckTravlr]

Every country has a right to ban whoever they want. But many countries in Europe have a higher death rate than the USA. Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden and the Netherlands are all higher than the USA on a per capital basis. Switzerland is almost as high. I assume the bans will be reciprocal.

Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop
San Marino	643	+5	41		161	441	2	18,950	1,208	3,201	94,339
Belgium	53,981	+202	8,843	+82	13,937	31,201	420	4,658	763	605,237	52,222
Andorra	760	+2	49	+1	576	135	3	9,836	634	1,673	21,653
Spain	271,095	+1,575	27,104	+184	183,227	60,764	1,534	5,798	580	2,467,761	52,781
Italy	222,104	+888	31,106	+195	112,541	78,457	893	3,673	514	2,735,628	45,246
UK	229,705	+3,242	33,186	+494	N/A	196,175	1,559	3,384	489	2,094,209	30,849
France	178,225		26,991		57,785	93,449	2,542	2,730	414	1,384,633	21,213
Sint Maarten	76		15		46	15	7	1,773	350	329	7,673
Sweden	27,909	+637	3,460	+147	4,971	19,478	351	2,763	343	177,500	17,576
Netherlands	43,211	+227	5,562	+52	N/A	37,399	432	2,522	325	275,720	16,091
Ireland	23,242		1,488		17,110	4,644	72	4,707	301	258,808	52,414
Isle of Man	332	+1	23		272	37	20	3,904	270	3,912	46,006
USA	1,413,630	+4,994	83,745	+320	299,008	1,030,877	16,473	4,271	253	9,985,942	30,169
Channel Islands	547		42		455	50		3,146	242	5,342	30,725
Switzerland	30,413	+33	1,870	+3	26,800	1,743	79	3,514	216	322,084	37,215

Here are the statistics for Canada. Based on the ranking of the chart by deaths/1M of population, Canada would be right at the bottom with 141 deaths/1M. That is an important part behind the general consensus not to reopen the Canada/US border anytime soon, or to permit the arrival of international travellers from overseas. Currently only essential commercial traffic or essential workers are permitted to cross the border in either direction. The first time in over 150 years.

	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Cases /1M	Deaths /1M	Total Tests	Tests /1M
Canada	72,278	1,121	5,304	133	35,164	31,812		1,917	141	1,172,872	31,111

 

[nerodog]

Brian,
I do agree with you because I wouldn't want us either, but I am VERY sad about it . When its all said and done, Bavaria is hands down my favorite country and we have been to over 40 countries . We go there twice a year.

Mav, check flights. I see flights from Frankfurt to USA according to US Embassy. I'm not sure which cities. More flights will be opening up and the date I'm hearing is June 15th

 

[nerodog]

American Travelers Are About to Be Pariahs in This New World

ROME—Travel has been one of the most deeply gutted industries of the global coronavirus pandemic, so it should come as no surprise that many countries that rely on it for so much of their GDP are getting anxious about when they can start opening up. But travel is not just about the destination...

www.yahoo.com

This looks like an update on an article from a travel blogger a few weeks ago that said France and the head of the E.U. is thinking of closing their borders to all except Schengen countries until September 1st. The USA was on short list of other countries they don't want coming in because of all the Covid cases . I I told my husband that as long as I can get into Bavaria, Germany I will be happy but that is moving further away . BAVARIA...…" Bitte, let me in, Danke

When are you planning to travel ?

 

[mav]

THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there

 

[dioxide45]

THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there

July 3rd 2021?

 

[nerodog]

THANK YOU!!! Nerodog! I'll see what I can find out, I am not sure but I think you have to have official business to go there from the USA, but it gives me hope. I have a flight to go to Bavaria, Germany on July 3rd, but at this point I will go even sooner if I can. This gives me hope I will get there

Germany is looking into travel bubbles rightvniw with Austria and Switzerland. It appears that EU countries don't want to lose the summer season yet alotvhas to do with flights espmfrom North America. I agree, probably need a reason right now. I would not give up hope just yet...keep an eye on the news and watch Lufthansa site for info.