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[2020] A little stock market sense

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Richard
 
I was a landlord for about 20 years before I retired. The added income was great but overall, a giant PIA. I sold my rental properties when I retired cuz I didn't want the headaches anymore.
REITS are a better alternative, but you don't get as many tax breaks as you would as a landlord, IMO.
I do not have any REITS in my portfolio. I guess I wanted to get out of the landlord business entirely. LOL.
 
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What are the Pelosi's buying? I am following investments of key members of Congress to get some tips on what stocks to buy or sell. Here are some recent major investments.
markets.businessinsider.com

Nancy Pelosi's husband just invested millions in 4 mega-cap tech stocks, including Apple and Amazon

The stock purchases come as Pelosi's wife and the House of Representatives work on anti-trust legislation designed to regulate tech monopolies.
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Congress is currently working on a bill that includes major incentives to Intel and other chip makers. Ohio and Columbus already are providing Intel millions of dollars of tax incentives to build a plant near Columbus, but they are also looking for large federal grants. I'm in favor of encouraging more companies to expand production in the US, but how much is fair? They will make a lot of profit from these facilities and local communities will need to spend a lot to increase infrastructure and expand schools.
 
From the same article:

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It's great that we are on an upward trend, but we still have quite a ways to go to recover from the losses of this year.

Kurt
 
PigsDad said:
From the same article:

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It's great that we are on an upward trend, but we still have quite a ways to go to recover from the losses of this year.

Kurt
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Yeah - we’ll just ignore that 30%+ plunge and the fact we’re still down about 20% since the start of the year…

 
Brett said:
maybe it's time to sell stocks and get survivalist gear

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Apparently, you’re going to need to explain the concept of the trend line. Some people don’t get it. They seem to think it should go from 30% down to 30% up in a single session.
 
Rolltydr said:
Apparently, you’re going to need to explain the concept of the trend line. Some people don’t get it. They seem to think it should go from 30% down to 30% up in a single session.
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Nope. I just find it funny when we ignore downside risk on the basis of a two month chart.

And just so people understand, if you have a 30% drop the market would have to increase over 42% just to get back to where you previously were.

Buying and holding with periodic rebalancing is the way to go IMO. Trying to time the market is a fools errand and buying because the trend line is moving that way is a quick way to lose money.
 
Brett said:
maybe it's time to sell stocks and get survivalist gear

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You never struck me as the survivalist type, but you can do what you want. I did increase my stock holdings a bit over the past few months as part of a reallocation between cash and stocks (I took my bond allocation to zero awhile back since the downside risk didn’t compensate for the upside risk).
 
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Nope. I just find it funny when we ignore downside risk on the basis of a two month chart.
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And just as funny, or foolish, to ignore the upside benefits. I like balanced reporting, not always doom and gloom, nor pie in the sky. ;)
 
My bet is markets begin to crash on Monday 9-26 or Tuesday 9-27.

Bill
 
I'm putting a bit of $$ in "I-Bonds" for intermediate needs and stability.
At my age, stability is becoming more important.

That said, most of my $$ is remains in various stock ETF's.
They may have taken a beating, but the bear market won't last forever.
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My bet is markets begin to crash on Monday 9-26 or Tuesday 9-27.

Bill
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Just curious, why one of those two particular days----not tomorrow, or after those two days?

And, your definition of 'crash' ?

p.s. I too think we are headed down, but that's less definitive than your guess.
 
#1 Cowboys Fan said:
Just curious, why one of those two particular days----not tomorrow, or after those two days?

And, your definition of 'crash' ?

p.s. I too think we are headed down, but that's less definitive than your guess.
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Sept 17, 2001 sell off. Sept 29, 2008 sell off. Sept 18, 2015 sell off. Sept 27 , 2022 ???? . All of these dates are about seven years apart and fall on Rosh Hashanah. It seems like an interesting trend and probably means nothing but things are lining up for sell off, imo. It might as well be on Rosh Hashanah.

Bill
 
September does have a history of being a harsh month in the equities market. October as well. :(

Kurt
 
PigsDad said:
From the same article:

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It's great that we are on an upward trend, but we still have quite a ways to go to recover from the losses of this year.

Kurt
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Then there is today, when that 20% bear market rally has gone bust, beginning August 16 -- five days after you posted the chart -- and the Nasdaq Composite it now back down to 11,000.

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From BankRate.com
"... the average bear market since 1929 has resulted in a roughly 37 percent decline in the S&P 500 and it has taken an average of 344 days, or nearly a year, for the market to reach its bear market bottom... The average duration from peak to trough would mean the market could bottom in mid-December 2022, based on its peak of January 3, 2022."
 
The S&P 500 Stock Market index has gone back to 2021 levels - finally a little stock market sense !
 
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