[2008] Southcape Resort

[ClamsCasino]

We were promised wireless internet, a new phone system, and a painted pool - can't they get anything right? Can't they just send someone else out from Comcast

 

[tombo]

I do not think it is Cliff unless he had a lobotomy. Cliff's posts were a lot more intelligent and well written. Cliff bothered to actual make a point and express an opinion.

Of maybe it is Cliff, and his partners gave him one to shut him up....

I was thinking that Festiva Rep came here to try and do some damage control to try and mitigate what Cliff and his alter egos have been doing. Cliff probably was issued a gag order by Festiva and Outfield which is why he no longer posts here as Cliff. Of course he can keep inventing new posters to try and fool not only us, but also to fool the people at Festiva/Outfield who won't let him come and post with us anymore. Come on Festiva/outfield, let Cliff come back and play. We learned so much from him and his aliases.

With Cliff's ego you know that being banished from here was a blow because he was so knowledgable about timeshares that he was going to run verbal circles around all the uneducated bumpkins on this site. That didn't work so well and he got caught in more and more lies. So in comes Festivarep to save the day and shut Cliff up. Now we will see what spin Festiva Rep and the PR department at Festiva can put on the damage that has already been done and how well they can muzzle Cliff,cape,mass,viv,prof,stein, etc.

 

[ChrisH]

Here is OCTOMAN - just spying

Cliff is here .... I think his latest alter ego is Mayor with an aim to distract from a thread when topics get too close to the target and make him nervous.

:ignore: NEVMSLLC
Status: Guest
Last Activity: August 4, 2009 10:26 AM

:ignore: Yesterday he was:
mayorpw
Status: Guest
Last Activity: August 3, 2009 02:36 PM

He gives up each new identity as he gets caught. ProfPaul is gone, Vivmarch is gone, massman is gone. When will 'mayorpw' morph?:hysterical: :hysterical:

 

[tombo]

:ignore: NEVMSLLC
Status: Guest
Last Activity: August 4, 2009 10:26 AM

:ignore: Yesterday he was:
mayorpw
Status: Guest
Last Activity: August 3, 2009 02:36 PM

He gives up each new identity as he gets caught. ProfPaul is gone, Vivmarch is gone, massman is gone. When will 'mayorpw' morph?:hysterical: :hysterical:

Next is governor pw, followed by senator pw, and finally president pw.

 

[e.bram]

How about:
HisHonorpw or
His Royal Highness pw

 

[Classylassy523]

Next is governor pw, followed by senator pw, and finally president pw.

He is already KING ... King of the castle ... his words describing his position at the Sandcastle. And, according to the king ... he will stay the king until enough units have been sold for the owners to take over.

 

[SCapeOwnersRUS]

Can We Get a REFUND

We were promised wireless internet, a new phone system, and a painted pool - can't they get anything right? Can't they just send someone else out from Comcast

Don't you think those ofus taht spent our summer vacations there without these things yet paid for them are entitled toa REFUND?????????????????

 

[Sou13]

Request to see the books

I don't know about a refund, but I want to see proof that the special assessment isn't going for improvements at Sandcastle!

The "trustees" are supposed to deposit the money in a bank account from which money can be withdrawn for the repairs and renovations. Ask to see the bank statements!

 

[ChrisH]

Google Festiva Resorts and see their 'new' address!!!!

Just googled Festiva Resorts to see if there were any new reports and lookee, lookee - they have a NEW address in Denton, TX - on good ole Hickory Street, who woulda thought!!!!



Festiva Resorts LLC 135 E Hickory St Denton, TX 76201-4215 - (940) 565-0030
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maps.google.com

Chris

 

[tombo]

Just googled Festiva Resorts to see if there were any new reports and lookee, lookee - they have a NEW address in Denton, TX - on good ole Hickory Street, who woulda thought!!!!



Festiva Resorts LLC 135 E Hickory St Denton, TX 76201-4215 - (940) 565-0030
Write a review - Directions and more »
maps.google.com

Chris

Curious since Festiva Rep assured us that Festiva had no association with Outfield other than outfield was hired to sell Festiva points. Of course Outfield had so many complaints that Festiva will no longer let them sell on site at several of their resorts, but they still contract them to sell at Southscape, Sandcastle, and in people's homes. I had asked the Festiva Rep last Friday why Outfield was unacceptable to sell on site at some of their properties but yet they were still allowed to sell Festiva points in people's homes? She said she would get back to me after the weekend on that question and several more. Others have questions waiting to be answered too, yet here it is Thursday and no response.

When Festiva Rep does come back to answer questions, perhaps the question of why the Texas address (a state where Festiva has no timeshares) of 135 E Hickory St, Denton, TX which is a couple of doors up from the address of Outfield Marketing (212 E Hickory St, Denton, TX) would show up as a Festiva address when googled? Since Festiva has no timeshare affiliations in Texas, and since Festiva supposedly has no affiliation with Outfield other than as a 3rd party sales force, why the new Texas address? If Festiva for some reason just wanted to have an office in Texas (far away from their nearest timeshare location), why in the largest state in the US (square miles) would they locate their office in a relativelly small town of Denton, and on the same street as Outfield? The close proximity of these two addresses is not a coincidence. Outfield and Festiva are getting awfully cozy for 2 businesses that are totally separate.

 

[mweinberg]

Curious since Festiva Rep assured us that Festiva had no association with Outfield other than outfield was hired to sell Festiva points. Of course Outfield had so many complaints that Festiva will no longer let them sell on site at several of their resorts, but they still contract them to sell at Southscape, Sandcastle, and in people's homes. I had asked the Festiva Rep last Friday why Outfield was unacceptable to sell on site at some of their properties but yet they were still allowed to sell Festiva points in people's homes? She said she would get back to me after the weekend on that question and several more. Others have questions waiting to be answered too, yet here it is Thursday and no response.

When Festiva Rep does come back to answer questions, perhaps the question of why the Texas address of Outfield (a state where Festiva has no timeshares) would show up as a Festiva address when googled? Since Festiva has no timeshare affiliations in Texas, and if Festiva has no affiliation with Outfield other than as a 3rd party sales force, why the new Texas address?

I think we scared FestivaRep away! Or maybe he/she is vacationing at some nice RCI property this week.

 

[ChrisH]

ALL SAME TX ADDRESS - Outfield, Festiva, NEVMS

If you google outfield marketing ltd - they have 2 addresses - same phone # - maybe they moved to get cozy

135 E HICKORY ST DENTON, TX 76201 Phone: (940) 566-5127
and
Outfield Marketing is located at 212 E Hickory St Denton, TX. Phone: 940-566-5127

FESTIVA Resorts, LLC has this same 135 E Hickory address (although Festiva Adventure Club is in NC).

In the POS for the Commonwealth of MA, NEVS is listed at 135 E Hickory.

Intercity Escrow is in CA and Houston, TX - maybe they'll move soon :hysterical:

 

[Sou13]

Here's some fodder for complaining to the AG

Failure to comply with chapter.
Section 49. If a developer or any other person subject to this chapter fails to comply with any provision of this chapter or of the time-share instrument, any person or class of persons adversely affected by the failure to comply shall have a claim for appropriate relief. A failure to comply with the provisions of this chapter shall be deemed an unfair or deceptive act or practice under chapter ninety-three A. (Chapter 183b Mass State Laws)

And from the Master Deed, PAGE 030 (By-Laws p. 12):

ARTICLE V
Control by Declarant
Section 1. Reservation of Control: The Declarant reserves the right to control the Corporation and its affairs as provided in Sections 2 and 3 of this Article, notwithstanding any provisions in Article VI or elsewhere in these Bylaws to the contrary. This reservation of control shall expire and this Article shall cease to be of any force or effect upon completion of the development of the Premises or upon the completion and occupation of one hundred and &ixty-three (163) Residential Units, whichever first occurs. The Declarant may/ however, prior to such expiration, at its option, relinquish by written notice to the Corporation all or any part of the control herein reserved to the Declarant/ in which case the provisions of this Article, except as necessary to accomplish the partial relinquishment of control, shall remain in effect.

I'm reading the above to mean that, because there is no more land on which to develop more than the existing 55 units, no further development is possible, and therefore the development of the Premises has been completed. Reading and studying a Master Deed are every owner's right, and complaining to the AG is a responsibility IMVHO.

 

[Carolinian]

Those ''unfair'' or ''deceptive'' acts in most state consumer protection laws also trigger such things as being able to collect your attorneys fees out of the defendant and / or treble monetary damages. This could be huge. The prospect of collecting attorneys fees from the defendant may help you get an attorney for a lower retainer or if you are lucky, maybe even no retainer at all. I suggest you check those aspects of consumer protection law, and then get a group and go consult a local attorney.

Failure to comply with chapter.
Section 49. If a developer or any other person subject to this chapter fails to comply with any provision of this chapter or of the time-share instrument, any person or class of persons adversely affected by the failure to comply shall have a claim for appropriate relief. A failure to comply with the provisions of this chapter shall be deemed an unfair or deceptive act or practice under chapter ninety-three A. (Chapter 183b Mass State Laws)

And from the Master Deed, PAGE 030 (By-Laws p. 12):

ARTICLE V
Control by Declarant
Section 1. Reservation of Control: The Declarant reserves the right to control the Corporation and its affairs as provided in Sections 2 and 3 of this Article, notwithstanding any provisions in Article VI or elsewhere in these Bylaws to the contrary. This reservation of control shall expire and this Article shall cease to be of any force or effect upon completion of the development of the Premises or upon the completion and occupation of one hundred and &ixty-three (163) Residential Units, whichever first occurs. The Declarant may/ however, prior to such expiration, at its option, relinquish by written notice to the Corporation all or any part of the control herein reserved to the Declarant/ in which case the provisions of this Article, except as necessary to accomplish the partial relinquishment of control, shall remain in effect.

I'm reading the above to mean that, because there is no more land on which to develop more than the existing 55 units, no further development is possible, and therefore the development of the Premises has been completed. Reading and studying a Master Deed are every owner's right, and complaining to the AG is a responsibility IMVHO.

 

[Sou13]

More irregularities

These "developers" are trampling all over our "rights" as deeded owners of more than 1600 of 2800 Southcape intervals. That's more than 51% but it just doesn't stop them. I just did a "Corporate Search" for "Southcape Resort" http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/co...ReadFromDB=True&UpdateAllowed=&FEIN=042922230 and discovered that a new "clerk" has been added in place of Cliff Hagberg. All without the corporate filings required by Massachusetts law and without an election by deeded interval owners.

Since the Master Deed has been taken off the website I can no longer direct anyone to the BOOK and PAGE which gives owners rights to elect directors of the Corporation. This is outrageous!

 

[FestivaRep]

Obviously, "Maine" was a typo. That was only on our website for about a day until I caught it.

Thanks

I was just up on the Festiva website. Clicked on the NEW, LATEST resort that has been added to the Festiva corral of resorts ... Southcape Resort and Club. Now, I thought this was the Southcape Resort and Club in Mashpee, Massachusetts. It is said to be on Cape Cod. Read the following --

Festiva Resorts
This is a new website for Festiva Resorts’ Southcape Resort & Club. Here you can find everything you need to know about our fantastic property in Mashpee, Maine. Please feel free to navigate back to Festiva Resorts’ main site to learn more about the Festiva Family by clicking here.

We also have exciting features exclusively for our members, including a secure password-protected section that allows members to pay maintenance fees, request reservations and more!

If you have any comments, suggestions, etc., please click here to send us an email or post comments under any article of this website.

Okay ... this enquiring mind wants to know:
A) Did they move the Southcape Resort? And, when?
B) Did they move Cape Cod? Did they hook a chain on at Race Point and haul it up along the coast?
C) Just where is Mashpee, Maine? Is it near the ocean?

Maybe you better get the Maine AG on board and up to speed on what has been going on.

I think Festiva needs to hire a good proofreader!

Jean

 

[FestivaRep]

Festiva did not issue any such gag order to Cliff.

I was thinking that Festiva Rep came here to try and do some damage control to try and mitigate what Cliff and his alter egos have been doing. Cliff probably was issued a gag order by Festiva and Outfield which is why he no longer posts here as Cliff. Of course he can keep inventing new posters to try and fool not only us, but also to fool the people at Festiva/Outfield who won't let him come and post with us anymore. Come on Festiva/outfield, let Cliff come back and play. We learned so much from him and his aliases.

With Cliff's ego you know that being banished from here was a blow because he was so knowledgable about timeshares that he was going to run verbal circles around all the uneducated bumpkins on this site. That didn't work so well and he got caught in more and more lies. So in comes Festivarep to save the day and shut Cliff up. Now we will see what spin Festiva Rep and the PR department at Festiva can put on the damage that has already been done and how well they can muzzle Cliff,cape,mass,viv,prof,stein, etc.

 

[FestivaRep]

I can assure you all that Festiva does NOT have an office anywhere in Texas. The home office for Festiva Resorts, LLC, is here in Asheville, NC. We do not operate any offices in Texas. I have sent a request to Google to remove this location from the map. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

If you google outfield marketing ltd - they have 2 addresses - same phone # - maybe they moved to get cozy

135 E HICKORY ST DENTON, TX 76201 Phone: (940) 566-5127
and
Outfield Marketing is located at 212 E Hickory St Denton, TX. Phone: 940-566-5127

FESTIVA Resorts, LLC has this same 135 E Hickory address (although Festiva Adventure Club is in NC).

In the POS for the Commonwealth of MA, NEVS is listed at 135 E Hickory.

Intercity Escrow is in CA and Houston, TX - maybe they'll move soon :hysterical:

 

[FestivaRep]

I haven't been scared away, and I have not been on vacation. I have noted that I will not be able to be as active on the board as I was several months ago (on other threads) as my job responsibilities have expanded and most of the time I've spent on here is after work hours on my own time. I expect to be able to catch up on the board once every week or two. If you have specific questions, you may get a faster answer if you e-mail them directly to me at comments@festivaresorts.com, and you can post my response(s) here if you wish.

 

[TomBenoit]

Welcome Back FestivaRep - Please answer the question

You asked for specific questions.........

OK FestivaRep, perhaps you can provide an answer to the following:

Who is Jonathan Brown and did he tell us the truth?

He showed up at our house with a copy of our deed to Southcape back in December 2008. He informed us that (some is scratched out on paper):

1) Festiva had purchased Southcape
2) Maintenance fees were going to $750/year
3) The ENTIRE septec system needed to be replaced for $5-10mm
4) There would be a $500/yr assesment for at least 5 years until
a) Septic is paid off
b) There is a $2mm reserve
5) All of Soutcape was switching to II
6) We could avoid the increased maint/assesments by 'upgrading' to Festiva
a) Year 1 of II would be included
b) Year 1 of Festiva maint would be included
c) We could 'opt out' of Festiva without penalty - anytime

 

[e.bram]

It would be interesting to find out EXACTLY how many weeks 25-34 Festiva controls in Southcape and Sandcastle.

 

[ChrisH]

NEVS LLC, postal address????

I can assure you all that Festiva does NOT have an office anywhere in Texas. The home office for Festiva Resorts, LLC, is here in Asheville, NC. We do not operate any offices in Texas. I have sent a request to Google to remove this location from the map. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

Hi Festiva Rep

Do you have the correct postal mailing address for NEVS in Massachusetts? I can't seem to find it anywhere and I wish to write them questions about Sandcastle. The last address I used was 93 Hawes Ave in Hyannis, but it was returned as not picked up after 20 days by the post office.

Thanks
Chris

 

[Sou13]

Owners' report from the resort

Over the weekend I received some reports from owners who are vacationing at Southcape this week. Here's some of what I've learned:

NEVMSLLC is on vacation this week but Rosaleen Cassidy, Resort Manager, is very cooperative and gracious about meeting with owners and providing the reports that were passed out to owners at the meeting, as well as recent minutes that weren't passed out. She is also willing to show owners the renovated unit that was shown to owners who attended the meeting.

The wireless Internet is accessible but not to all the units. If you bring your laptop you may be able to access the Internet from your car or the clubhouse area.

The septic repairs are on hold until the red tape issues get resolved.

The interior renovations are scheduled begin in the fall but may continue on a staggered basis through the off-season months rather than all at once.

Owners who check in over the weekend are being called Monday a.m. and offered a $50 gift card for *attending a meeting to learn about upcoming renovations.

There are no permits being issued for the town beach. If owners want to use the town beach they have to get a permit for $25 from town hall which isn't open until Monday a.m.

Parking at the state beach is at least $7 per day.

The patio area outside the clubhouse is painted concrete which will need to be repainted every two years.

 

[Classylassy523]

Festiva in Texas

I can assure you all that Festiva does NOT have an office anywhere in Texas. The home office for Festiva Resorts, LLC, is here in Asheville, NC. We do not operate any offices in Texas. I have sent a request to Google to remove this location from the map. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

How did Festiva end up with a Denton Texas address on Google? Did Google make it up? If that is the case, then are the Outfield Marketing and NEVS addresses and phone numbers bogus too?

I should think that Google would be open to a lawsuit for falsely claiming that there is a business located at a certain address and it not be there. And, amazingly enough, all three of those entities are hooked together in one way or another. Did Google know about these connections and assume that Festiva was at that address too? Just how does Google get the information that they have on their website. I doubt they have people driving up and down streets, roads and highways all over America writing down names and phone numbers. Maybe they use public records such as phone records, city, county and state records ... that kind of information.

I know you can contact Google and request that the listing be deleted from their site, but taking the listing off of Google doesn't change what actually is located at that address, now does it? I hope I am not coming across as combative, but we have been lied to by so many people who are all connected to Festiva in one way or another. It is difficult, for me at least, to accept blindly anything I hear from anyone connected to these businesses.

 

[Classylassy523]

Other search services

Son of a gun ... I decided to do some further checking. It appears that Google isn't the only website with a listing for Festiva in Denton, TX. I went to AnyWho, an AT&T site, and, lo and behold, there was Festiva again. Same address as Google and with a phone number. http://anywho.yellowpages.com/name/Denton-TX/Festiva-Resorts?from=AnyWho

Is this yet another case of smoke, smoke, smoke and no fire? Or, maybe, someone just wanted to be a meany and called up and had phones installed at that address for Festiva, Outfield and NEVS.

Just call me a doubting Thomas.

Maybe you could spend a few hours checking every search engine on the Internet and when you find another Festiva listing in Texas you can contact them and have it removed. But, like I said, removing the name, address and phone number from the listing doesn't change what is actually at that address.