[2008] Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

[Archie583]

Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

If any Tuggers are in the Puerto Vallarta area and see or hear anything about the Belaire project would you please post such information.

Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

 

[acaseyc]

Belaire This Month

We will be in Puerto Vallarta for 2 weeks starting Wednesday. I plan on visiting Belaire with camera and will post with my impression at first opportunity ( That means after Margarita Happy Hour)....

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

We will be in Puerto Vallarta for 2 weeks starting Wednesday. I plan on visiting Belaire with camera and will post with my impression at first opportunity ( That means after Margarita Happy Hour)....

We'll be staying in the Marina early next year. I will also try to get some updated photos and status report on the never-ending building sometime when we go out for a walk.

 

[acaseyc]

Musical Chairs? or "Who's on First?"

HOTEL U GOLF RESORT AND MARINA

From visits and meetings October 23, 2010​

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1: Rumors from street timeshare touts: Hotel U is the same 'ol management with a new partner to build a Casino. The Belaire 2nd tower will not be built, but smaller units will be built on property across the street. Belaire bought into the Playa del Sol Resort in Nuevo Vallarta. Same story, new name. Take your pick or make your own dream. I have satisfied myself that the investment in Playa del Sol was the Bel Air Group from Cabo.

2: Some announcements from recent newsletters from the “new” management.
A: Andy Stone, MBA is Director of International Relations
B: Plan is to honor Buy-back agreements.
C: Buy-back will not proceed unless owner ceases actions with banks, credit-cards and PROFECO.
D: Mexico requires 10% advance to change timeshare ownerships.
E: Plans to build Casino confirmed. Here's what they say on their website “U Casino Grand Opening Over two years in the making, and millions of dollars spent the new Hotel U Golf Resort and Marina Casino will celebrate the grand opening with huge crowds and stunning displays. Preparations are taking place at the casino and they span many different areas of the facility. There will be a ribbon cutting ceremony, and then customers will be allowed to enter the casino and begin to gamble. It is an occasion that all involved are looking forward to. "We'll be giving opening gifts to the first several people to come in"

3: Here's a couple of choice pieces of info given from on-site U mngmt to a disgruntled owner:
A: New website Nov 1.
B: New Sales team mid-November
C: Construction start-up mid-November with web-cams.
D: Buy-backs to start late Nov or early Dec.

4: Here's my estimated reality, with some additional commentary:
A: Same player, same story, new name to change image
B: Probably new partner to build Casino
C: Building across street may not happen, that property still had For Sale Sign 10/23/10
D: If these guys are real, making offer to buy back would stop any actions pending and should not require ceasing before buy-back initiated.
E: I seriously doubt that Mexico has any law requiring 10% advance to change timehare ownship
F: Buy-back agreements described to me (second hand) are not structured the way I understand the contracts contemplated, but are to be a re-sale to new owners. Sounds like that old game of payoff investors by raising money from new investors...........
G: If Andy Stone has MBA, he obviously is not supervising the website team:
The old Belaire website still exists without cameras http://www.belairevacationclub.com.
The old “Parent Co.” website ( http://www.theluxuryexperienceprc.com )has been changed with search and replace Belaire with Hotel U Golf Resort and Marina without care or concern that the link to the new website does not work and, among other deficiencies, it still refers to the non-existent Grand Marina Residence Club and Business Center and includes an offer for free visit that expires in 2008.
The new website ( http://hotelugolfresortandmarina.com/ ) includes this laughable description from the Parent Co. site: “Our International Company is a Mexico limited liability corporation that acquires, markets, develops, sells, manages and operates luxury properties in the hotel, hospitality, vacation, travel, r ecreation, and private residence club segments.* The company has created what it believes is the newest and most innovative concept in vacation investment available.”

Picture attached shows missing steel beams, which indicate the sudden termination of work. I have no investment at risk in Belaire, but it saddens me to know what has happened to so many people. If you are invested, my recommendation is to HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND GET OUT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, if its not already too late.

 

[KarenLK]

I would be really surprised to find out that casinos were now allowed in Mexico...

 

[timesharejunkie4]

I would be really surprised to find out that casinos were now allowed in Mexico...

There is a casino in Cabo. I have only walked thru it. Saw lots of slot machines.

 

[judy23]

Bellaire

there are 2 casinos' in PV I have been in one of them and Mr Graziano is putting one in Paradise Village new shopping center.

 

[teesamarie]

Belaire Golf and Spa

Is there anything at all going on there?

 

[acaseyc]

No more www Belaire

Is there anything at all going on there?

Nothing as of Oct 23. Site was littered with cast-off steel beams and drain pipes.
Guard informed us office was open m-f from 10am to 4pm and appointment needed for entry.

Guess something might be happening, the old Belaire website is finally gone...

Maybe the new partner will get something done? I can hardly wait for another onsite view by someone.

 

[Bulldozer]

Belaire Resort and Spa

I have read several of the posts on Belaire or should I say Hotel U. I understand that the name "Belaire" was stolen from a boutique hotel in the Cancun area? Well, guess what? Hotel U is a a small chain of high end boutique hotels in Asia.
I contacted the President of Hotel U in Asia (the real Hotel U) and asked if they were affiliated with this project in PV and I sent him a link to the website. I was advised by the President that this project was not at all affiliated with their chain of hotels and that he was going to be forwarding this information onto their legal department. These guys in PV even stole the insignia of the Asian hotel chain.
I was in PV over Christmas and New Year. The sales office was closed, however the salon was open for some of those days. Even the guy who runs the salon has no idea what is going on with this development.
I stopped by on Jan 03, 2011 just a few hours prior to leaving the country to see if there might be some sales people around. There was some Mexican guy walking around in a shirt and tie who presented himself as an Engineer for this project. Since I too am an Engineer I am quite confident that this fellow was no more an Engineer than he was Santa Clause. I took it upon my self to walk into the back room where I saw an older caucasian lady, a younger Mexican lady, what appeared to be an IT type guy and a 400lb Mexican guy who I guess was some sort of security guy since it was him who attempted to remove me from the back room. After some verbal altercations with these people and the 400 pounder calling someone on the phone I decided that it might be in my best interest to leave. These guys either could not or would not answer any of my questions about the project.
Upon my leaving the building, the so called Engineer followed me to my vehicle
I guess to ensure that I left the premises. He told me that he too was leaving for the day. He followed me all the way to my vehicle which was the very last car parked on the street. I entered my vehicle and left, the so called Engineer kept walking. I guess he would be the only Engineer I know that does not have a vehicle since there were no other vehicles parked past where I was parked.
I can only conclude that these guys are nothing more than con artists who have ripped off what must be millions of dollars from trusting tourists.
BTW, there was no construction taking place on the site, I was in PV last May as well, there has been no construction since that time either.
The so called Engineer advised me that there would be full construction on this building in one or two weeks and that it would be complete by Dec. of this year. Well its been 17 days and to the best of my knowledge there is still no construction taking place at this development and still no cameras up and running.
I printed this so those of you who have purchased from these criminals and have not been back to PV in some time would have an idea as to what is taking place at Belaire aka Hotel U.

Bulldozer!

 

[Archie583]

Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

I am at the Mayan Palace Marina and have not been able to go down to the Belaire project because my wife has been quite ill. However I will share this with you. I meet a man at the Mayan who is an owner at Belaire, he scheduled a meeting with the resort and was told he had to pay an additional $7,000 dollars if he wanted any hope of keeping his contract valid. Unfortunatley this poor gentleman seems to have made this payment. This seems to be the latest scheme in this long running mess. I will be in the Puerto Vallarta area until April 30, and if I see or hear anything I will post it.

 

[kingofthegeeks]

Honestly, i gave up on this money a couple years ago, the only satisfaction i get is that i did not want to buy here and it was my wife who really pushed it. So while i paid alot of money, its the only time i have ever been able to get my wife to admit that i was right..........

Its unfortunate but i really have just considered this a blown investment, and have learned that unless i can move into something immediately after the paperwork is complete, i will not be buying it.

 

[PamF]

What I will never understand is how the Mexican government and Profeco continue to allow the Belaire to keep stealing money from people.

My parents were hoodwinked by these cons years back and still think something might actually be built one day.

I just don't understand.

 

[judy23]

Pam,
We have no proof,but the word from the locals is that they paid off everyone they had to to turn the other way including profeco, who is useless.The resort has been nicknamed "All Aire" on the street. The reason why the sales dept is not open is because no one will send people there.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

The resort has been nicknamed "All Aire" on the street.

What's the nickname in Spanish - "todo aire"? "sólo aire"?

"Bellaco Aire" might fit. "Bello Aire" => "Bellaco Aire"

 

[Archie583]

February 24, 2011
No construction has started as of this date. The Belaire now calls itself the Hotel U and claims the Belaire does not exist anymore, thus lawsuits against Belaire are not possible. They claim construction will start soon and take 10 to 11 months to complete. They are asking former Belaire owners for an additional 7999.00 dollars and they say they have 200 members who have already signed up. They said they will honor Belaire contracts of those who do not pay but they will go to the bottom of the list in terms of priority. I wil not even consider giving these peope one additional penny until I see a completed tower. I am moving downtown and if I see or hear anything else I will post it.

 

[hobyhaus]

Latest news

I also visited U Hotel after making an appointment. I was met by a gentleman, whose name might be Carlos Camba. He took me in and offered me something off an old menu. He left to get a copy of my contract. I noticed another couple and went overand asked them if they had also purchased. They replied yes. I them told them not to invest any more money into this operation. The young man returned but he did not want me to speak to them.

Another gentleman came in whose name is Mario Llamas, head honcho. He explained that nothing has started as they still had to get the permits and did not want to pay the Mexico government $250,000. last July as they were not ready to start construcion at that time. I told them that the newsletter stated that the permits were in order. They cannot even get their story straight. I asked him about Mr. Hightower and Mr Williams but he said that he did not know anyone with those names. He told me the transfer fee would be $7999.00.

The other couple left and in just a minute we all ended up in the same room again. Since my husband was not with me he wanted to leave ASAP. The first gentleman took me out and while walking out I asked him why they had security 24/7. He told me it was there to protect the construction equipment. I told him I did not think any one would be stealing the steel superstructure that was in place. He offered to drive me back to my hotel and went to get a key but then returned to say that the cars were out of gas.

I left pronto. Would I give them any more money NO.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

While riding the Marina Vallarta bus last Sunday headed towards downtown, we were talking with a couple who had boarded the bus with us at the Mayan Palace stop. After the bus made the turnaround on the north side of the and stopped in front of Velas Vallarta, I pointed out the steel superstructure and mentioned that the Bel Aire was a notorious scam.

A couple sitting several rows away, who had just gotten on, commented that they were among those who had been stung, having bought a Bel Aire unit preconstruction in about 2006. They mentioned that they had received the notice that the new owners were prepared to exercise the buyback that was included in the Bel Aire contract, but first they were required to pay in 10% more to get the buyback process started.

They said a meeting had been scheduled for the next day, Monday, to discuss the situation with the "new" owners. They said they had no plans to pay any additional money for any purpose.

If I saw them again on the bus I was going to ask them how the meeting went. But I didn't see them again.

 

[taffy19]

Two more recent posts here. We were planning to go by this resort again to see if anything had happened since last year but the timeshare sharks told us that they are out of business.

I feel so sad for the people who have bought here in good faith and I was hoping that they would get their money back. We were told by a salesman at one of the resorts that the developer has to have a bond or something equivalent in place before he can start building just in case the project goes out of business so the buyers are protected. I wonder now if this isn't true?

The laws are different here from us at home. What is so strange is that Profeco has helped some people (mentioned in the other thread too) but not everyone. Did they really get bought off? I do not want to believe that. Who knows what is going on here?

 

[Zib]

Just back from P.V. We went by the property a number of times and saw no activity at all. There is a Century 21 "for sale sign" on the porperty.

 

[siesta]

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[hobyhaus]

Very latest information

I drove by on March 9th and 10th. On the 9th there was a guard in his house, but on the the 10th none. In the drive were about 10 cars. There is no for sale sign out front. It is on the property that is across the street that they say they have purchased. I forgot to say in my last report that the unit that I owned they are "selling for" $114,000.00 now. I did notice that there is some black stuff on the bars where they have been welded together. Rust perhaps?

Has anyone contacted the AZ Travel Service that we are to contact for exchange to go to Belaire or to go elsewhere? I got this information from Profecto as I have a complaint with them about Belaire.

Still very disgusted.

 

[judy23]

We have friends who were able to get weeks at both the Mayan in the Marina and Nuervo,also the sea garden, the last 3 yrs through this co in Az. They pd $300 for each week for a 1 br unit . They only purchased an exit package from Belaire for very little money

 

[brucecz]

WARNING, BE VERY CAREFUL. There is a preconstruction sales going on a little north Buecerus and we did a presentation this January and to sounded to good and big and true. They were going to supposedly build their own Malecon, their own airport and we could bring our own Great Danes.

We of course passed as the MO seems like the Belaire in that it is being pitched as a a investment in a fractional and it is supposedly not a timeshare and you will make a lot of money on" your investment" They have their rental division that makes it sound like they guarantee it will rent but the agreement guarantees to only list your rental, but does NOT guarantees your rental, Sounds a lot like the Belaire, the Mayan Palace, etc.

We feel very sorry for those Tuggers who got ripped off by the Belarire. We almost got suckered into buying a exit package from Belaire, but recinded the next day as no one could deliver any were the amount of services they promised for $600 per week for a 2 bedroom. Plus the agreement once we read we understood that it was a terrable deal with no protection against leggally being ripped off.

It was to bad that some on this board did not heed Greggs and my and other Tuggers early warnings over 3 years ago.

Even some Tuggers sided with the shills and questioned our motives and agendas. Some of us got hammered on Tug and in nasty private emails for telling the truth and trying to get the word out.

Go back to posts by Dutch 23, the Mule and other the shills personal attacks to understand. That string as I pointed out 3 years ago might have set a record for supporting a resort in preconstruction sales.

But it was well worth it as several Tuggers after seeing our posts and following our instructions on how to legally cancel the Belaire contracts did so and thanked us on Tug and behind the sences.

Now finally 3 or so years later all people should know beyond a doubt that we were just trying to help expose the Belaire and help them.

I think it helped a lot when one of the mods, I think I have to credit Dave exposed a shill when the shill said he was posting from his home in the US and it was really from Puerto Vallarta.

Bruce

 

[california-bighorn]

Remember it well

Bruce, I remember well your warnings about the Belair in PV and some of the criticism directed at you and others for "raining on their parade". Their claims were so far fetched I didn't think anyone would believe them, but unfortunately some did and I feel for them bigtime. Last time we were in PV about 2 years ago, we walked by the Belair just so I could see firsthand the lack of progress, even at that time. After a year and a half it was just a few steel beams. Even if it had been completed, the location off the beach didn't interest me. There are probably several lessons to be learned from this, but not everyone knows of access to information like TUG and some will get burned on other projects that hit the pocketbook and run. Reading the recent updates leaves no doubt in my mind (if there ever was any) that investors in Belair will never see any returns.