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[2008] Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

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Reading back through some of the earlier portions of the thread, I figure that there are one of two outcomes for that frequent big dog of a poster:

1. He's slinking around with his tail between his legs while all of the other dogs life their legs a higher.

2. He's laughing like a hyena as he and his pack count up again all the money they wrastled away from the little dogs.
 

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No workers, no equipment on site as of this day. I will visit the site one more time before I leave on April 30.
 

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No workers, no equipment in Jan for 2 weeks and also in Feb and beg. of march whilest I was there. Very little has been done in such a long time....
 

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No workers, no equipment in Jan for 2 weeks and also in Feb and beg. of march whilest I was there. Very little has been done in such a long time....
At least they're no longer even making a pretense that construction is underway.
 

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Is their any TUG member who has been to Puerto Vallarta recently that can tell me if their is any construction going on at Belaire?
 

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Is their any TUG member who has been to Puerto Vallarta recently that can tell me if their is any construction going on at Belaire?

It is now September 15, 2011. I have all but given up on Belaire and accept the fact that it is and always was a total fraud. I was just wondering if any Tug member has been in PV recently and came up with any new information.
Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.
 

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It is now September 15, 2011. I have all but given up on Belaire and accept the fact that it is and always was a total fraud. I was just wondering if any Tug member has been in PV recently and came up with any new information.
Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

I've seen a resort named Bel Air Cabos in San Jose Del Cabo. Is this a related resort? I see exchange availability thru TPI.
 
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I've seen a resort named Bel Air Cabos in San Jose Del Cabo. Is this a related resort? I see exchange availability thru TPI.
no, usually they try to use a hotel name to make it sound like they are affiliated with a different hotel. This is Belaire not Bel Air.
 

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It is now September 15, 2011. I have all but given up on Belaire and accept the fact that it is and always was a total fraud. I was just wondering if any Tug member has been in PV recently and came up with any new information.
Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

We will be there mid-October and plan to "check-it-out"...will post as soon as we can.
 

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All City Group Offer to Resell

I just heard from a group called All City group from Kansas City who has a "buyer" for our interest in Belair AKA U hotel. The usual, an inflated price and no money up front. Anyone else been approached? Where are they getting our names and phone numbers? I told the girl who called to get another job, that this one stinks.:)
 
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What is there to resell?? It has to be another scam. We are owners and have not been called.
 

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Bel Aire - U Resorts

Still a scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't they ever quit? After investing and receiving nothing but Newsletters, who would possibly spend another dime? They think us, the original buyers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Belaire vs Bel Air Playa Del Sol fraud/scam

For clarification, yet another TS fraud--Playa Del Sol with locations in PV, Nuevo Vallarta and Cabos sold their properties out from under the owners. The PV location (formerly called Costa Sur) was sold to Howard Johnson chain and the Nuevo Vallart location (formerly called "the Grand) and the Cabo location have been sold and renamed "Bel Air Collection Resort & Spa Vallarta and Los Cabos" if you google playa del sol this is the names that come up.
So the names look very close but they are different, but the Bel Air Collection via the Playa Del sol Group is equally as much a scam and shouldd be avoided like the plague.

http://www.timesharescam.com/timeshare-scam-mexico/playa_del_sol_timeshare-4
 

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My parents have received an offer to sell their 'piece' back as well.

They have received paperwork. I am going to take it to an attorney that practices in Mexico to see what the heck it's about; I don't want my folks to get fleeced for yet more $$.

Anyone else get contacted by U?
 

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Bel Aire (U Resort & Spa)

I am also an owner and have not rec'd any offers. Can you elaborate on the wording or exactly what they're offering? I will be there in Jan and would like to investigate the possibility.
 

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Bel Aire vs. Belair

I would like to correct and hopefully clarify a post above. We have been members of the Playa del Sol Club for a number of years. Until late 2010, and slightly into 2011, Playa del Sol Club was owned/managed by Ken Molinaro who allowed the resort to seriously degrade in quality, and successfully "ripped off" many members by an "extraordianry fee" that he assessed. Mr. Molinaro sold his interest to a small chain of hotel resorts called the "Belair Collection....." Please note that this Belair is completely unrelated to the Bel Aire resort located in the marina area of Puerto Vallarta, which was a very bad operation operated by a fellow named Antonio, which bilked many people out of millions of dollars. That site and operation now appears to have morphed into "U Resorts", but appears to be virtually the same in operation to the previous Bel Aire.
My wife and I are currently staying at the Belair Collection Resort in Nuevo Vallarta, which is located between the new RIU Palace, and the Villa del Palmar Flamingos (not the one in Puerto Vallarta). The Belair Collection has made som very nice updates to the property, its building infrastructure, and its service offerings. They continue to honor the contracts of holders of the Playa del Sol memberships, but also have numerous guests that patronize the resort as a result of their own marketing. Belair dismissed all the former timeshare sales people including the women who worked at the concierge desk. That dismissal happened about a year ago, and they have had no sales operation on site since. I'm told that Belair may initiate a sales operation in the coming year to be located in the former Italian restaurant on site. The room where the old sales operation was located is now used as a conference room and for weddings.
In short, it is at least incorrect to call the current Belair Collection operation in Nuevo Vallarta a "rip off to be avoided like the plague". The developments of the past year have demonstrated what I see as a significant enhancement to the value of our ownership (actually membership) at the facility. Like almost all Mexsican timeshare operations, that may change for the worse, but as of now, I believe it is best to speak of them and treat them fairly and give them an opportunity to operate in such a way that benefits those of us who have retained and maintained our membership.
I invite Belair members to write me for furter information while I'm here through January 2012. I'll attempt to clarify or correct other points of interest.
Respectful regards,
Bill Rademacher
 

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Bill we will be staying at the Lindo Mar in Puerto Vallarta from Jan 21 to Feb 4, 2012. Maybe there could be a group get together,

Bruce:D
 

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Bruce, I have a photo of you and your wife from our last meeting at Joe Jack's. Let's try to meet again!
 

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My visit to Belaire/U Hotel

I just wrote a long message regarding my visit that I had a few days ago with the "legal counsel" of this operation. I put it on Red Week under the Belaire Vacation Club/Puerto Vallarta section.
 

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No new posts or news on this scam?

This jerks have conned more money out of my retired parents. Makes me so angry. :ignore: :ignore: :ignore:

Why can't the Mexican government step up and help? This is just so bad.
 

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Who is Belaire today?

Does anyone know the name of The latest scam properties owned by the Capolas? Haven't heard their name in a while.
 

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Belaire "Morphed"

In January, we vacatoioned in PV/NV and were told that the former Belaire located in the PV Marina area (not the Belair Collection in NV) had "morphed" into "U Resorts" on the same old site. Admittedly, this is hearsay, but the best info I can offer.
Bill
 

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In January, we vacatoioned in PV/NV and were told that the former Belaire located in the PV Marina area (not the Belair Collection in NV) had "morphed" into "U Resorts" on the same old site. Admittedly, this is hearsay, but the best info I can offer.
Bill

Yes it has, When you go by the building it now says "U". There's discussion of this upthread, including how after the morph the "new owners" were hitting up the Bel Air purchasers for more money to be able to retain their rights under the new ownership. A couple of years ago I was riding on the Marina bus with some folks who were Belaire victims and who were going to be attending a meeting with the "U" people the next day about converting their ownership. They were not at all inclined to do so.

I also understand that even the use of "U" is a scam, and they have been trying to make people think that they are affiliated with the "U" luxury hotel chain that is based in SE Asia.
 
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