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[2008] Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

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Every month, the people who have been scammed(owners) receive a newsletter from "u" resorts relating their progress. That progress has never ocurred. It also speaks of "buy back offers", which I as a scammed owner have never received. They are signed by a "Mr. Andy Stone, MBA. They contain newsy info about what is taking place in Puerto Vallarta and more promises about what is taking place with our investment. I just can't understand, why, people that have stole that much money from me, and so many others, continue to try and lead me to believe they are nothing but "theives". I know, I am not the only victim of this scam, that receives this monthly newsletter. But, I have never read anything about it on the Tug website. We were there, the first 3 months of this year, and, the only thing we could get, was a card with a reference #. That ended up, with no information.

What's up with that?

Why are not more "victims" speaking out? Is it because we know we've been scammed (cheated)?
 

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In January, we vacatoioned in PV/NV and were told that the former Belaire located in the PV Marina area (not the Belair Collection in NV) had "morphed" into "U Resorts" on the same old site. Admittedly, this is hearsay, but the best info I can offer.
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The Belair Collection looks like a very nice resort. We went by there several times on a bus to Buccerias. We never made it to the "U Resort" this year even though we went to the old marina several times. It was too hot to walk to there from the marina during the day. We took a cab once but decided not to do it this year as everything still looks the same according to some local people.

I feel very bad for the people who purchased here and didn't get their money back. i remember that someone started a separate forum for the people who had bought at the Belaire but I don't know if it is still active? Does anyone know?
 

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Belaire Golf Resortand Spa

On March 1, 2012 Mexico passed a law that allows for class action lawsuits. To file al law suit there has to be at least 30 people being a party to the suit.The lawsuit against Belaire has been filed and at this time there is 30 people, maybe more, who are part of this suit. The lawyers are asking for no money up front and if they win they would take 20 percent of the settlement. My wife and I are part of this suit and we gave the power of attorney so that our name would be on this suit.
I do not know how this will all come out butI just hope for the best
 

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My wife and I are part of this suit and we gave the power of attorney so that our name would be on this suit.
I do not know how this will all come out butI just hope for the best
Can people contact you if they wish to be a part of this? If Tuggers wanted to contact you, they can click on your name on the left and send you a private message. That would be better than posting your email or phone number on this public forum.

Best wishes for a successful outcome. Please let us know what happens.
 

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The Belair Collection looks like a very nice resort. We went by there several times on a bus to Buccerias.

I don't believe there is any connection between the Belair in Riviera Nayarit and the old Belaire (now "u") in the Marina.
 

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I don't believe there is any connection between the Belair in Riviera Nayarit and the old Belaire (now "u") in the Marina.
They are not connected as that was mentioned in post #749 that I quoted in my post. No comparison. :)

I still feel very bad for the people who trusted the word of the developer of that skeleton building. It may stand there forever just like another never finished structure in the marina area.
 

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On March 1, 2012 Mexico passed a law that allows for class action lawsuits. To file al law suit there has to be at least 30 people being a party to the suit.The lawsuit against Belaire has been filed and at this time there is 30 people, maybe more, who are part of this suit. The lawyers are asking for no money up front and if they win they would take 20 percent of the settlement. My wife and I are part of this suit and we gave the power of attorney so that our name would be on this suit.
I do not know how this will all come out butI just hope for the best
This is good to know for more victims who were not aware of the other private group (owners) and they may read it here.

What I don't understand is that the bond, that the developer had to put up, before starting the project, didn't cover the completion of the project. When we mentioned this to a well known resort during a presentation, they told us that this is law in Mexico.

I hope for the best with the class action lawsuit but most seem to favor the class action lawyers and not the people in the class action lawsuit. RCI is an example in the USA. I hope that it will be different in Mexico.
 

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I don't believe there is any connection between the Belair in Riviera Nayarit and the old Belaire (now "u") in the Marina.
They are not connected as that was mentioned in post #749 that I quoted in my post. No comparison. :)

I still feel very bad for the people who trusted the word of the developer of that skeleton building. It may stand there forever just like another never finished structure in the marina area.
But I think it can be quite confusing to many readers to suddenly start talking about the Belair resort in thread that has about 750 posts about issues involving the Belaire resort. I think many readers will not catch the distinction, especially after they've waded through pages and pages of posts.
 

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This thread has been very very quiet.

Anyone been down in PV and seen or heard anything?

:wall: :wall: or just more of the same :wall: :wall:
 

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Hotel U site visit

Hi Pam, I visited the site on 08/07/12. There was no visible change in construction of the tower since my previous site visit on 02/05/10. Nor was there any visible change to the entrance since my previous site visit on 09/28/11.
 

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This thread has been very very quiet.

Anyone been down in PV and seen or heard anything?

:wall: :wall: or just more of the same :wall: :wall:

Just received a update from the lawyer who is handling the class action suit against Belaire/Hotel U. It seems all the preliminary work has been done and the courts have accepted the suit. The lawyer indicates that they are now in the "Discovery" process of the lawsuit. It seems quite a number of Belaire owners have signed up for the lawsuit.
 

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Site Visit

This thread has been very very quiet.

Anyone been down in PV and seen or heard anything?

:wall: :wall: or just more of the same :wall: :wall:

On September 21st I went to the site and met with Mario Zargatori, not sure of the spelling of the last name as he didn’t carry business cards. He represented himself as the Hotel attorney and part owner. He stated that my 1 bedroom time share was now worth 6 times what I paid 5 years ago however I would have to convert my time share to Hotel U for an additional fee of 80% of my original cost. Hotel U members would have priority. I declined and he said that he would have to report my denial as choosing to terminate my membership.
The restaurant has been closed to the public; there were 2 attendants at the hair salon but no customers. They have removed most of the blue window glass from the 2nd floor. Mario stated that they are going to change the shape of the exterior to a square design and enclose the 2nd floor with solid walls for the casino. There was no construction activity. He stated that the workers and furnishings were coming from Monterey in two weeks. Note their July newsletter said they were coming in one week.
I also met with one of the attorneys from the law firm that is processing the class action lawsuit. He has an office in Puerto Vallarta and speaks English. The attorney also mentioned that it is not a Mexican law to pay a 10% upfront fee to sell your timeshare.
You may contact me at malmack@pacbell.net and I will provide his contact information.
 
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BelAire Resort and Spa Cabo San Lucas

Ok, I am hearing lots of negative info on the BelAire Collection does this apply to Cabo? I will be staying there in a few weeks and I am concerned I will not enjoy my stay. What do you guys recommend? Should I cancel or have a back-up plan and book at another resort?
 

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Ok, I am hearing lots of negative info on the BelAire Collection does this apply to Cabo? I will be staying there in a few weeks and I am concerned I will not enjoy my stay. What do you guys recommend? Should I cancel or have a back-up plan and book at another resort?
I don't believe the one in Cabo is the same company as the one in Puerto Vallarta. Go and have fun! Don't buy from the developer while you're there.
 

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Weird that the blog was created in October 2011 and nothing more posted.

Similar to the whole Belaire scam. Is this guy and the lawsuit legit or just another black hole.
 

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Weird that the blog was created in October 2011 and nothing more posted.

Similar to the whole Belaire scam. Is this guy and the lawsuit legit or just another black hole.

If I was betting IMHO I would guess it MIGHT BE a black hole.

Bruce :D
 

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Buyers be aware!!

Buyers be aware, there are 2 firms from Guadalajara who have access to your contract info and claim to be able to provide you with restitution of your funds. They are the "Mexico Advocate Team" and lately "Juridico Providencia - Fraud Investigation Unit of Mexico". They both claim that they have access to the seized assests of the Belaraire/Hotel U developers. They most likely are in cahoots with the people of Hotel U. They both emailed to me an info sheet, Confidentiality Agreement and Signature Form to be part of the restitution. The 3 forms are identical word for word, except for the address and signature.
 

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See the latest website about Hotel U/Belaire at http://www.uvallarta.com/index.html

This would be funny if it were not for all the folks duped by this group.

I walked by the resort a month ago. Doesn't look at all like the picture, considering that it's just a steel frame from the second floor up.

Progress was being made, though, truth be told. There were two guys working on site (trying to) install glass. And what appeared to be escalators inside plastic wrap were laying on the ground in front of the building.
 

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Last I was there in Feb of this year, the glass had actually been removed or was in process of such...so actually not building but unbuilding...aye aye:confused:
 

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Well now more time has gone on. My dear Father died in December; never able to go to or enjoy this supposed fractional ownership resort. After bilking him and my Mother for thousands and thousand and thousands of dollars!

Now a "Latin America Strategic Law Firm" of Larken and Larken has contacted my Mother. Now they claim they can help her recover some of the money.

I believe this is just another scam.

Anyone else get contacted by this place. The documents are signed by Danny Martinez/Attorney at Law. I am telling Mom to ignore this and just write off all the money they lost. It's a shame that the last 5 years they couldn't afford to go to Mexico because they sold one of their timeshares to these thieves to make the down payment on Belaire. I pleaded with them not to but the salesmen were quite convincing. I HATE IT! :bawl::bawl::bawl:
 

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More Belaire/HotelU scams-Mexico Advocate Group & Mexican Federal Fraud Investigation

I've been contacted by Larken & Larken also. I told them my attorney requested written documentation to be mailed to me and have not received anything.

I've also received 3 forms from both "Mexico Advocate Group" and "Mexican Federal Fraud Investigation Unit". Except for a signatures and the names/logos/addresses - everything is the same. I asked Mexico Advocate to send hard-copy written forms through mail last November 2012 and have not received anything. Looks like a scam to me.

All 3 said they have seized assets and can recover my money - I just need to sign and return the forms emailed to me.
 

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Has any one been contacted by the law firm Larken and Larken in Mexico City, or any other law firm, in regards to getting funds from the Mexican Fraud fund? And if so have they received any monies?
 
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Belaire- U Resort are the same, just as Antonio Copela (which I'm 100% sure is not his real name, he doesn't even have a legal US passport) and Allan Dale are the same person.

All they did was create a new corporation owned by "Antonio Copela's" wife and daughter (Linda Tomasello and Brianna Tomasello) and took advantage of this simulating a transaction, in reality this guy is still running the business backstage.

They spend thousands of dollars of your money every month paying the rent of their luxurious condo's in the Icon Towers (tower one and two) in puerto vallarta, they also drive these amazing cars(mecedes benz suv, lincoln navigator, hummer h2, honda Accord coupe among others) and live the great life in mexico, threatining evert person that works or has ever worked for them.

I will attempt to get more information for you, I know by posting this my life could be in danger, but I'm just sick of these people doing whatever they want either to nice honest american and mexican people.

By the way, I'm pretty sure Copela's real name is John Aurelio Cuda, therfore the username.
 
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