You're Being Lied to About Electric Cars

[easyrider]

It’s hard to beat the utility of a modern pickup truck. They drive like cars these days, and the higher end models have luxury features that rival most luxury cars.

Trucks & suv's ride nicely when the air pressure is reduced but the reduction does effect the mpg. I disagree that a modern pickup truck is riding anywhere as nice as a Luxury Sedan. Currently we are road tripping in the Lincoln Towncar and I can drive this car for for 14+ hours without feeling road weary.

Bill

 

[Chrispee]

Trucks & suv's ride nicely when the air pressure is reduced but the reduction does effect the mpg. I disagree that a modern pickup truck is riding anywhere as nice as a Luxury Sedan. Currently we are road tripping in the Lincoln Towncar and I can drive this car for for 14+ hours without feeling road weary.

Bill

I'm a big fan of the Ford panther platform, and enjoyed the Town Car rentals I've had in the past. IMO the Lightning does ride better than a Town Car, and the modern day Ram 1500 has very few rivals for comfort. Have you driven either?

 

[Elan]

Driving a truck as a daily driver gets to be a drag. My truck (F150, 4WD, 3.5EB) goes 0-60 in under 6 seconds, but there's nothing confidence inspiring enough about the handling or braking to make me want to do that. As with all full sized trucks, it has a turning radius of about half a football field. At this point, I'd gladly ditch it for a midsize truck if they were either clearly better at something or clearly cheaper. But they're not. If Honda would make a PHEV Ridgeline, or if Ford would bring the PHEV Ranger stateside, I'd likely bite.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Trucks & suv's ride nicely when the air pressure is reduced but the reduction does effect the mpg. I disagree that a modern pickup truck is riding anywhere as nice as a Luxury Sedan. Currently we are road tripping in the Lincoln Towncar and I can drive this car for for 14+ hours without feeling road weary.

Bill

Go drive either the F150LP or the RAM 1500 Limited models with the coilover air suspension. The 1500 Limited or Longhorn models are consistently rated among the top ten of all vehicle interiors for mass production vehicles for a reason, that’s why I have owned two over the past ten years now.

The air suspensions deliver a really nice ride for a pickup. I’ve taken road trips up to nine hours non-stop in our 1500s over the years except for bathroom breaks - zero issues.


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[easyrider]

I'm a big fan of the Ford panther platform, and enjoyed the Town Car rentals I've had in the past. IMO the Lightning does ride better than a Town Car, and the modern day Ram 1500 has very few rivals for comfort. Have you driven either?

Nope. The trucks we drive are bigger than a 1/2 ton other than our Ridgeline which is comfortable to drive for maybe 8 hours at most. Our slightly lifted Expedition would be as close as I can get to the Ram 1500. The Expedition is on 285's and I run 30 psi in the tire for a cushy ride but my mpg is about 10, lol. I did drive it to Sedona and it was comfortable but not as comfortable as the Town Car.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

Driving a truck as a daily driver gets to be a drag. My truck (F150, 4WD, 3.5EB) goes 0-60 in under 6 seconds, but there's nothing confidence inspiring enough about the handling or braking to make me want to do that. As with all full sized trucks, it has a turning radius of about half a football field. At this point, I'd gladly ditch it for a midsize truck if they were either clearly better at something or clearly cheaper. But they're not. If Honda would make a PHEV Ridgeline, or if Ford would bring the PHEV Ranger stateside, I'd likely bite.

We were about to get another Ridgeline but Honda decided to use VCM and disabling the VCM voids the warranty is what they say.

Bill

 

[HitchHiker71]

Nope. The trucks we drive are bigger than a 1/2 ton other than our Ridgeline which is comfortable to drive for maybe 8 hours at most. Our slightly lifted Expedition would be as close as I can get to the Ram 1500. The Expedition is on 285's and I run 30 psi in the tire for a cushy ride but my mpg is about 10, lol. I did drive it to Sedona and it was comfortable but not as comfortable as the Town Car.

Bill

I’ve ridden in a few older Expeditions before - the ride doesn’t compare to my RAM 1500 with air suspension. That said, some Expedition models do offer air suspension - I’ve just never ridden in one. I run 40PSI in my tires (Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2 - P275/60R20) rides just fine. I only air them down when driving on beach/sand. The Tungsten edition is the top of the line with upgraded softer alcantara leather heated and cooled seats - a step above the normal leather in the Limited and Longhorn models. My 2012 RAM 1500 had heated leather seats that were plenty comfortable but not as nice as my current truck.


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[easyrider]

I’ve ridden in a few older Expeditions before - the ride doesn’t compare to my RAM 1500 with air suspension. That said, some Expedition models do offer air suspension - I’ve just never ridden in one. I run 40PSI in my tires (Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2 - P275/60R20) rides just fine. I only air them down when driving on beach/sand. The Tungsten edition is the top of the line with upgraded softer alcantara leather heated and cooled seats - a step above the normal leather in the Limited and Longhorn models. My 2012 RAM 1500 had heated leather seats that were plenty comfortable but not as nice as my current truck.


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Sounds nice but kind of spendy, lol. My situation is I can travel alot with family, have a cabin for family and help my family buy property or buy a couple of $80,000 vehicles. I guess I could do both especially if I financed the vehicles but I'm happy with the vehicles that we have.

Bill

 

[HitchHiker71]

Sounds nice but kind of spendy, lol. My situation is I can travel alot with family, have a cabin for family and help my family buy property or buy a couple of $80,000 vehicles. I guess I could do both especially if I financed the vehicles but I'm happy with the vehicles that we have.

Bill

We paid $47k for the 2018 RAM 1500 back in Jan 2018 (MSRP was 64k back then). We leased it through our real estate business for three years, then bought out the lease in 2021 for around $28k with a note at 2.49% and paid it off early. We have a firm rule to only have a single car payment at any one time. We bought our 2023 Tesla MY LR two years ago now for around $60k and financed $30k at that time (sold our 2017 Honda Accord that was paid off to fund most of the downpayment). That was the most expensive vehicle we’ve ever purchased by far.

I’d never buy a new pickup these days. They are just too expensive at $80-90k MSRP for the higher end models that I prefer. I’d buy certified preowned - which is how we’ve bought most of our vehicles prior to buying our current RAM and Tesla vehicles. That said, we only have 63k miles on our 2018 RAM 1500 and knock on wood it’s in great shape - no reason to get rid of it really.


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