Most large businesses get subsidies, tax breaks, etc. I personally got a huge tax credit when I bought the ELR.
Yep, there's massive subsidies for the oil industry as well as the EV industry. You've benefited directly from both sides. I'd love to see them all removed and let the free market prevail.
As I said all big businesses get some kind of subsidies, tax breaks, etc. But I’ve never received a personal tax deduction to incentivize a purchase.(other than the ELR tax credit). I would love to get a huge tax break for using an ICE vehicle, purchasing pharmaceuticals, buying a house, renting a property, utilizing airlines, etc…. The tax credit I personally received for purchasing an EV was astounding. That kind of subsidy is unsustainable IMHO.
What does the abbreviation FRP stand for Not an acronym I am familiar with
You and I benefit from the tax incentives to the oil industry every time we pull up to the gas pump. Our gas is less expensive because of these subsidies, so while it is not as obvious, you do indeed get a huge price break for using an ICE vehicle.
If the reason why so many people are against EVs is because of political reasons and not logical reasons, it is disingenuous to ignore the elephant in the room. But I won't go down that rabbit hole and that is the last I will say the topic, since we don't talk about this here.
What is FRP ?
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Again, for the vast majority of daily driving needs, you cannot beat EVs when charging at home. Since this constitutes 90-95% of miles driven, with 5-10% for outlier use cases, public charging really only comes into the picture on road trips, and the vast majority of drivers taking road trips only drive within a 150 mile radius, which doesn't require public charging during the road trip - only destination charging (which can oftentimes be free once you arrive at your destination if/when that destination has L2 chargers available). For example, we take numerous weekend getaway trips within a five hour radius - and 50% of the locations have free destination chargers. Old Town Alexandria has free chargers, Wyndham Shawnee has discounted L2 chargers, Bentley Brook has free chargers, National Harbor has discounted L2 chargers. It's a nice perk to drive to a destination and pay nothing to charge back up.
and you are welcome to discuss those political reasons elsewhere.
id never heard of it either, google suggests its something related to the external case of the battery itself in protecting the cells from puncture/etc.
That’s right, good point, the oil industry passes a portion of their subsidies on to us. It’s actually us being subsidized. I’m sure it works the same for all big business.
Sorry - I meant LFP. FRP is a Fiber Reinforced Plastic container for batteries/electronics - been looking at them for something else - so it's fresh in my mind. I've corrected my original post.
Again, it's not the lithium that matters - it's when lithium is combined with rare earth metals that it can become unstable when the BMS is not properly coded to manage the pack itself - which is why I'd never buy any non-Tesla EV for the most part - because the vast majority of EV manufacturers don't have the experience and BMS capabilities that Tesla has especially over the long term. This is why LFP batteries have almost no fire risk - yet have just as much lithium as NMC/NCA/NCM packs - because iron is inert. That said, BEVs have 25 times less risk of fire than ICE vehicles - while hybrids enjoy significantly higher fire risk than ICE vehicles since they use both batteries and a ICE under the same hood in very close proximity - which creates a lot more heat and complexity. Ideally I'd only buy a HEV/PHEV with a LFP battery pack - which in theory should bring this risk down quite a bit.
Where did you "hear" that Bill? From your internet sources? More fake news from you.
When comparing the price per unit of gasoline, you have to look at how much of the price is embedded taxes EU tends to have very large taxes per unit compared to the US.
taxfoundation.org
Here is a video showing examples of lithium battery fires, from very small devices all the way up. I just found it interesting and shows that any-sized lithium battery has the protentional to be quite dangerous. One should note that an ICE vehicle is still many times more likely to start on fire than an EV.
