Frankly, I DON'T CARE! I wear a mask. If anyone says anything, I say, "I just came from a hospital where many people are positive. I wear the mask for you. Not for me." Funny how they move away.
Jim
Jim
Right-and the previous studies done with influenza-where you can still be infectious before symptoms-didn't show masks stopped transmission either. Heck even preliminary studies out of China on household groups - while showing probably asymptomatic (or more accurately-presymptomatic) transmission still didn't show 100% of all members who had contact with infectious people actually got infected either.Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.... Riiiiiiight... this is no longer accurate the moment we learned that people can be infected and be asymptomatic.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.... Riiiiiiight... this is no longer accurate the moment we learned that people can be infected and be asymptomatic.
Are you kidding? They’ve done so for decades! There are laws against unprotected sex by someone who knows they have a STD. For example: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/transmitting-std-criminal-laws-penalties.htm
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Actually, the condom / mask analogy doesn't work. A condom protects those having sex, a mask protects people that happen to cross paths or airspace. Zero intimacy required. For most people, there will be more incidental, shared airspace encounters than sexual. At least in my grocery store.
Those laws are only enforceable if you knowingly had the disease and infected others. Most of the people walking around don't know if they have Covid or not. Their going to have a hard time prosecuting anyone let alone figuring out who to prosecute until such time as more people are tested. Going to the store without a mask and going to the store without a mask knowing you are infected with Covid are two completely different things.
Another analogy
1. Having sex unprotected with another not knowing if you have an STD. (Legal)
2. Having sex unprotected with another knowing you have an STD. (Reckless and illegal but your still free to choose)
Quote from the website you linked.
"However, if you are unknowingly infected with an STD, you cannot be found guilty of this crime. In order to convict you, a prosecutor must be able to show that you knew you had the disease and you intentionally exposed someone else to danger. Alternately, a prosecutor can show that, while knowing you had the disease, you were indifferent to the risk of exposing someone else and engaged in contact that recklessly endangered the other person.
If someone knowingly and intentionally infected another to cause death, then attempted murder charges are a possibility."
So the real question is not wearing a mask considered reckless endangerment of another person. If thier is a law that say's you must wear a mask then you have the choice to obey the law or not obey they law. But if you choose to not obey it you need to be prepared to face the conseqences whatever they may be. However you are entitled to your day in court and your opinion.
The contagious part is missing. But, yeah, no analogy will be perfect.No analogy is going to be perfect. Frankly I still think the drunk driving analogy is a good one.
At this point I don't trust both WHO and CDC and whatever guidance they issue. I rely on my own logical thought process.It is still posted on their website and in more than one place.
At this point I don't trust both WHO and CDC and whatever guidance they issue. I rely on my own logical thought process.
be the sunflower in a world of weeds
can we have just one thread that doesnt turn into a fight? maybe? be the sunflower in a world of weeds.
Ken, just to clarify, my comment was not intended to be directed at "you" -- it was just where I happened to be when I got the reply button -- after trying to get through a series of posts that had started to sound more like a debate than the expression of personal thought responding to OP.Taken out of context, I would agree with you. In this case, I'm responding to a previous post where "you" is appropriate since it's only directed at one person. (Also notice that the previous post included the word "you" (referencing me), yet you didn't choose to admonish him. I wonder why you thought it only appropriate to select me for this criticism...and yes, another "you").
Precisely. We have our own reality on how we see the world.OK
everyone has their own "logical thought process" and follows it
I have a friend who lives in Taiwan. He says everything is open, including gyms and restaurants. He says everyone wears a mask in public, everyone washes their hands a lot, and they practice social distancing as much as they can. He said his gym is cleaned meticulously, and non-stop. He said life there is as normal as it ever is. The difference, he says, is that the culture there is one of compliance with the Government, rather than individual freedoms.
Dave
"Wearing a face covering isn't about protecting yourself, it's about protecting those around you," said JetBlue's President Joanna Geraghty. "This is the new flying etiquette."
American Airlines and Delta Air Lines earlier Monday said they will require thousands of employees to wear face masks and provide masks for passengers.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
I do not understand your post. Can you provide a little more info as to what you mean?
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