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Good to know thank you, we are hoping this wont take more than two weeks, is that too optimistic?
For a property in the USVI, it is very optimistic. If you only have a contract right now, expect a lot longer. Realize, the owner has to sign the deed over (that could take two weeks on its own), then they have to get it recorded in the USVI (think Island Time). Then they have to send it to Vistana to be transferred into your name (think weeks, perhaps a couple months.

Perhaps you are closer than I am thinking. What is "agreement to sign membership"? Is SB ownership not deeded?
 

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Good to know thank you, we are hoping this wont take more than two weeks, is that too optimistic?
11/16 I received my “agreement to assign membership” papers
11/19 mailed the executed paperwork to closing company
11/23 closing company received documents and forward to Chicago Title Company
11/25 closing company received executed documents and sent to Vistana.
12/13 not in my account yet
 
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Perhaps you are closer than I am thinking. What is "agreement to sign membership"? Is SB ownership not deeded?
Sunset Bay and Coral Vista Not deeded. You get a Membership Certificate. Transfer done by Chicago Title.
 

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For a property in the USVI, it is very optimistic. If you only have a contract right now, expect a lot longer. Realize, the owner has to sign the deed over (that could take two weeks on its own), then they have to get it recorded in the USVI (think Island Time). Then they have to send it to Vistana to be transferred into your name (think weeks, perhaps a couple months.

Perhaps you are closer than I am thinking. What is "agreement to sign membership"? Is SB ownership not deeded?

we have done everything mentioned above, we are sending the paperwork to vistana Monday (well the closing company is) that’s why we are hoping to have membership in 2 weeks
 

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we have done everything mentioned above, we are sending the paperwork to vistana Monday (well the closing company is) that’s why we are hoping to have membership in 2 weeks
Based on @GrayFal timeline, two weeks may not be possible.
 

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December 2020

Dear Fellow Virgin Grand Villas Owner:

We recently participated in two Board meetings and approved the 2021 budget. We are writing to update you on developments.

Maintenance fee increase

As you know from the budget that you received in the mail, maintenance fees are increasing by 2.6 percent in 2021. We regret that there is any increase in the midst of a pandemic and a national economic downturn, but there was no way to avoid it. The largest driver of the increase was an increase in insurance premiums, which we anticipated and wrote to you about last year. This increase alone accounts for an average charge of $62.23 per unit week (a little less for smaller units, a little more for larger ones). More than 80 percent of the $62.23, however, is attributable to the fact that until 2021, the developer was paying the insurance premiums for the common areas, including the resort landscaping, large pool, fitness center, laundry facility, energy plant, staff cafeteria, staff locker rooms, and roadways. Starting in 2021, the developer, in its continued effort to reallocate common area operating costs, will no longer pay these premiums, and they are being allocated to the four condominium associations, with Virgin Grand bearing the largest percentage (36.51%) of those costs because it has the largest number of units. The second largest driver of the increase (an average total of $54.08 per unit week) is, unlike in past years, we are no longer going to charge a $40 daily “resort fee” to renters, because while there is no litigation against the resort or the association, there is a risk that such fees could eventually be determined not to be consistent with law. We do not want to take a chance on being sued and having to pay legal fees as well as reimbursing renters. Increased benefit costs for staff members (an average total of $38.40) is the third largest driver of the maintenance fee increase.

One offset to the increase is due to the fact that our contingency fund for paying the deductible on any insurance claim is now fully funded, so we are no longer building charges for such a fund into the maintenance fee.

Maintenance fee delinquencies

The maintenance fee delinquency rate is currently 7.65%, up from 4.8% for the same period last year. This means that owners who do not pay their fees are locked out of their units and face liens and foreclosure suits, while those who do pay must experience higher maintenance fees to cover the full amount of expenses incurred by the association. Please pay your bill by its January 8 due date and do not risk being unable to enjoy the resort (or, through exchanges, the other resorts that you can use).

The good news about COVID-19

There have been no reports of anyone getting COVID-19 at the resort, and as of the Board Meeting on November 10, management reported that the COVID-19 rate on the island has been stable (even though it has been rising rapidly in the states). The resort has been taking strong measures to keep owners safe, including disinfecting the common areas three times a day, thoroughly cleaning and disinfecting rooms after every use, and encouraging social distancing. The Westin ferry has a new air filtration system that cleans the air more effectively than HEPA filtering. All resorts on St. John and St. Thomas were temporarily closed by the Governor of the Virgin Islands to new arrivals for two periods during the summer. But those closures ended, and the resort contemplates 83% occupancy in December.

Repurchase agreement

Many owners have written to us asking whether the developer would repurchase or take back their units. We ask about this at every Board meeting. The developer’s current response is that such a plan continues to be under consideration but that the idea was suspended during the pandemic and economic downturn. It remains a subject of discussion.

Annual meeting

Your association’s annual meeting and the board meeting that follows will be held on March 1 at 9:00 am. The meetings will be offered via a webcast for owners to be able to view the presentation, hear the proceedings and submit questions for the Q&A session following the annual meeting.

Larry Pelletier
larrypelletierx@gmail.com
Philip Schrag
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we have done everything mentioned above, we are sending the paperwork to vistana Monday (well the closing company is) that’s why we are hoping to have membership in 2 weeks
I contacted member service who sent my email to vacation ownership specialist
@DST @dioxide45

Here is the reply

Dear GrayFal,

I welcome the opportunity to assist with your inquiry.

Please note that it can take up to 30-45 business days for that information to be reflected on your account.

Should you have any additional questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Ricky V.
Vacation Ownership Specialist
 

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Update - Vistana completed our ownership change! It's official.

For those who are wondering about timelines, here's our experience (for reference, this is a Bay Vista private resale. BV is deeded).

9/22 - Offer accepted
9/23 - Seller sent confirmation of 2021 ressie in our name (fixed unit, fixed week)
9/28 - closing statement signed
9/29 - wired funds to escrow
9/30 - was told everything is done except for the tax clearance letters (Bay Vista so WSJ pays taxes) but they had already been ordered
11/5 - Attorney followed up on tax letters and USVI claimed there was an additional $15 in taxes owed.... not sure if this was the stamp tax or what because in Bay Vista, taxes are paid by WSJ. In any event, lawyer paid them since it wasn't worth fighting (even though she claimed they were wrong.) By this time, deed was stale so an extra $100 that the realtor graciously ate.
12/4 - Final tax letters received, deed recorded and funds wired to seller
12/5 - Attorney sent recorded deed to Vistana requesting they update their records
12/16 - Vistana confirmed ownership transfer was complete (only 8 business days from when attorney sent docs)
 

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12/5 - Attorney sent recorded deed to Vistana requesting they update their records
12/16 - Vistana confirmed ownership transfer was complete (only 8 business days from when attorney sent docs)
That is great. I am truly shocked it was so fast!
 

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I am not feeling the Vistana love!
Did you use an attorney on the island? Just curious. @mclowe
The attorney is based on STT. She just emailed the deed and requested they make the update. I was surprised it happened so quickly! Now, I just need to figure out how to set up an account!!!!
 

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The attorney is based on STT. She just emailed the deed and requested they make the update. I was surprised it happened so quickly! Now, I just need to figure out how to set up an account!!!!
It has been a long time since I have done this but likely you need your ownership number and go to the website to set it up.
 

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The attorney is based on STT. She just emailed the deed and requested they make the update. I was surprised it happened so quickly! Now, I just need to figure out how to set up an account!!!!
You can setup a Vistana.com account without even having ownership. Then all you should need is the contract owner to connect your ownership to the Vistana.com account.
 

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Update - Vistana completed our ownership change! It's official.

For those who are wondering about timelines, here's our experience (for reference, this is a Bay Vista private resale. BV is deeded).

9/22 - Offer accepted
9/23 - Seller sent confirmation of 2021 ressie in our name (fixed unit, fixed week)
9/28 - closing statement signed
9/29 - wired funds to escrow
9/30 - was told everything is done except for the tax clearance letters (Bay Vista so WSJ pays taxes) but they had already been ordered
11/5 - Attorney followed up on tax letters and USVI claimed there was an additional $15 in taxes owed.... not sure if this was the stamp tax or what because in Bay Vista, taxes are paid by WSJ. In any event, lawyer paid them since it wasn't worth fighting (even though she claimed they were wrong.) By this time, deed was stale so an extra $100 that the realtor graciously ate.
12/4 - Final tax letters received, deed recorded and funds wired to seller
12/5 - Attorney sent recorded deed to Vistana requesting they update their records
12/16 - Vistana confirmed ownership transfer was complete (only 8 business days from when attorney sent docs)

Holy cow! That was a quick settlement. I have friends who have been trying to settler for a year now.

Can you do me a favor and send me your attorney that handled the closing and filing of the deed?
 

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Update - Vistana completed our ownership change! It's official.

For those who are wondering about timelines, here's our experience (for reference, this is a Bay Vista private resale. BV is deeded).

9/22 - Offer accepted
9/23 - Seller sent confirmation of 2021 ressie in our name (fixed unit, fixed week)
9/28 - closing statement signed
9/29 - wired funds to escrow
9/30 - was told everything is done except for the tax clearance letters (Bay Vista so WSJ pays taxes) but they had already been ordered
11/5 - Attorney followed up on tax letters and USVI claimed there was an additional $15 in taxes owed.... not sure if this was the stamp tax or what because in Bay Vista, taxes are paid by WSJ. In any event, lawyer paid them since it wasn't worth fighting (even though she claimed they were wrong.) By this time, deed was stale so an extra $100 that the realtor graciously ate.
12/4 - Final tax letters received, deed recorded and funds wired to seller
12/5 - Attorney sent recorded deed to Vistana requesting they update their records
12/16 - Vistana confirmed ownership transfer was complete (only 8 business days from when attorney sent docs)

That’s amazing. I signed a contract to buy a VGV pool villa in August. Since then there has been ZERO progress. They haven’t even got the deed recorded. I had to tell them that the seller needed to pay the taxes. I was supposed to get 2020 usage! Well now it looks like seller will have to pay maintenance fees.

I’m happy for you that it went so smoothly!


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Holy cow! That was a quick settlement. I have friends who have been trying to settler for a year now.

Can you do me a favor and send me your attorney that handled the closing and filing of the deed?
I sent you a PM
 

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And my good fortune continues. I signed up for an account on Vistana but couldn't link my weeks. I called Owner Services at 9am and got right through (zero hold time) and had it all linked by 9:07am.

Now we are officially official. Nothing left to do but wait!
 

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That’s amazing. I signed a contract to buy a VGV pool villa in August. Since then there has been ZERO progress. They haven’t even got the deed recorded. I had to tell them that the seller needed to pay the taxes. I was supposed to get 2020 usage! Well now it looks like seller will have to pay maintenance fees.

I’m happy for you that it went so smoothly!


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It sounds like you may be repeating the same type of fiasco i went through with my pool villa. Stay on top of it!
 

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It sounds like you may be repeating the same type of fiasco i went through with my pool villa. Stay on top of it!

Yes they clearly don’t know what they are doing. I offered to help but they weren’t receptive to that lol.


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And my good fortune continues. I signed up for an account on Vistana but couldn't link my weeks. I called Owner Services at 9am and got right through (zero hold time) and had it all linked by 9:07am.

Now we are officially official. Nothing left to do but wait!
Sent you a PM @mclowe
 

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Hi all - sorry have not been on for a bit; holidays and work have been exhausting! We have not heard anything on getting the certificate so we can book - I set up an account on Vistana so I am one step ahead there. Is there anyone to contact at Vistana to get the certificate faster? Any tips
Mclowe that's fast - good for you!
 

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11/16 I received my “agreement to assign membership” papers
11/19 mailed the executed paperwork to closing company
11/23 closing company received documents and forward to Chicago Title Company
11/25 closing company received executed documents and sent to Vistana.
12/13 not in my account yet
New ownership in my account 12/30,
 

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Does anyone know if the TVs are compatible with Apple TV, Roku or FIresticks? We are in Bay Vista if that matters. We are headed down in March (fingers crossed) to spend 2 weeks (long time visitor to STJ, first time to Westin and new owner!). We are thinking we will order takeout from our favorite restaurants and eat at the villa more this visit and would be good to stream movies etc. Is the wifi even strong enough to support this?
 

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Another question:
I will be staying in a pool villa and am wondering what type of coffee maker (and filters needed) they have. Thank you
 
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