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A friendly suggestion: I know the two topics are inter-related, but let's please avoid going down the political path with this thread. Thank you kindly! :hi:
 

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lower for longer

correction indeed, bear market in many sectors. opportunities in bear exist.

sharp reversals are dramatic, pain for some shorts, but not to get fooled. The tidal change is slow.

corporate profits are negatively sloped. compression. but not all companies.
 
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I feel that stocks are on sale. I'm buying more.
 

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This is NOT a repeat of the Great Recession in 2008. Low oil prices should have a stimulative effect on the economy, plus all this turmoil in the markets will keep the Fed on hold. We were overdue for a correction, but I predict the market will return before the end of the year. Oil stocks are a great buy here.
 

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We are in a stockpicker's market and not buy the index phase.

I forgot this link

http://www.businessinsider.com/baltic-dry-index-falls-to-lowest-level-in-history-2016-1?r=UK&IR=T

Hint - If shipping rates are low = noone is shipping anything = TRADE IS WAY DOWN.

This is lower then it has ever been (and there is no index for inflation on this thing but I can tell you that $1 in 1986 was worth a ton more than $1 now...)....

In fact, according tho this site

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=350&year1=2015&year2=1986

If the index were "indexed" to inflation, we are talking about the equivilant of a rate in 1986 of $162...

Think about that.
 
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Looks like 2016 is off to a great start for deploying my Roth contribution. I like blue chips, I love blue chips on sale. I probably have 10 years until retirement so this is really good timing for me.

For those retired, don't panic. What goes down generally goes up.
 

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My advice is to go on vacation and don"t look at the stock market!
 

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For those retired, don't panic. What goes down generally goes up.

Look at the net outflow of money from 401ks and retirment funds... Hint, boomers are retiring, funds are having to liquidate assets, retirees get scared and pull out more assets causing more fear and panic, people expecting to retire do the same....more panic more fear...

I hope you are averaging down cause DOW will probably hit somewhere in range of 12-13k by my estimate.
 

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Look at the net outflow of money from 401ks and retirment funds... Hint, boomers are retiring, funds are having to liquidate assets, retirees get scared and pull out more assets causing more fear and panic, people expecting to retire do the same....more panic more fear...

I hope you are averaging down cause DOW will probably hit somewhere in range of 12-13k by my estimate.

I hope your low estimates are wrong.
 

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This is NOT a repeat of the Great Recession in 2008. Low oil prices should have a stimulative effect on the economy, plus all this turmoil in the markets will keep the Fed on hold. We were overdue for a correction, but I predict the market will return before the end of the year. Oil stocks are a great buy here.
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Won't the low oil prices affect the business dealing in oil, though? For example, this is a big part of Texas's economy.
 
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Looks like 2016 is off to a great start for deploying my Roth contribution. I like blue chips, I love blue chips on sale. I probably have 10 years until retirement so this is really good timing for me.

For those retired, don't panic. What goes down generally goes up.

I am doing monthly contributions to a blue chip fund since last year in my Roth, I have 5 years until I retire.
 

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My advice is to go on vacation and don"t look at the stock market!

That's what I'm talkin' about! We can't do anything about the market. We have to just hope for the best. Make sure we have a cash stash.
 

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I am doing monthly contributions to a blue chip fund since last year in my Roth, I have 5 years until I retire.

What's a good Blue Chip Fund that all of you have been picking for your Roth. I'm 13 years from retirement.
 

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What's a good Blue Chip Fund that all of you have been picking for your Roth. I'm 13 years from retirement.
You are on vacation what are you looking at the stock market for? lol
 

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something with low management fees (Vanguard funds) - fees are killer to returns in long term
 

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I suppose if you are close to retirement this would be a concern, though you really shouldn't have so much in the stock market if that is the case. Being properly diversified would insulate one from big downturns like this when so close to needing the money. What wiped out a lot of peoples retirement funds in 2008 was that they had too much invested in stock or even too much in their own company that went belly up.

If you are relatively young and dollar cost averaging, I say keep doing it and don't look at it. I haven't even had the time to look at my 401K balance in a long time and didn't know the market was down until I saw something about it yesterday.
 

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Completely agree. Diversification is key. If you have a 3-5 year time horizon, you should have at least some portion of your portfolio in stocks/mutual funds. Even the financial gurus advise to NOT try to time the market.


I suppose if you are close to retirement this would be a concern, though you really shouldn't have so much in the stock market if that is the case. Being properly diversified would insulate one from big downturns like this when so close to needing the money. What wiped out a lot of peoples retirement funds in 2008 was that they had too much invested in stock or even too much in their own company that went belly up.

If you are relatively young and dollar cost averaging, I say keep doing it and don't look at it. I haven't even had the time to look at my 401K balance in a long time and didn't know the market was down until I saw something about it yesterday.
 

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that is a great source of info, thank you.

oh, sellers exhaustion might be near and large programs might give the present worst start to a year in memory a pause, let's just wait for the next batch of earnings and downward revisions, then the continuation of the trend. buy the dippers are absent as they should be or stunned. timing is always tough-imo. Long term dollar cost averaging is good for many. keep powder dry.

lower limits mentioned are not unreasonable in the next 18 months.

good luck all.
 
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