Rebranded DRI resorts to HVC or HGVC

[cd5]

Rebranding officially starts this fall and will take over a year before its finished. One resort at a time.

 

[holdaer]

Go to Hilton Grand Vacations website. Click on resorts and destinations.

Hilton Grand Vacations

At Hilton Grand Vacations, we believe life is incomplete without vacations. Learn how you can see the world from the comfort of our timeshare resorts

www.hiltongrandvacations.com

 

[brp]

It would likely be cheaper (and more advantageous) to just buy resale Embarc points if you want to go regularly.

Thanks. Yeah, that was the initial thought a while back. I still want to wait to see how things shake out (and renaming is a strong first step for them) before doing anything. Since target properties are few (KBC and P@P) and they're in the same collection, the decision will be pretty easy if things remain as seems likely.

Cheers.

 

[escanoe]

RCI, I suspect, will be the last place any rebranding will be observed.

It will be observable on Hilton.com (booking hotels and resorts) and Google Maps (business listings) before RCI if past is prologue.

Where are you seeing this rebranding?? On the RCI website, available to non RCI members, there is no rebranding of the Embarc resorts. In fact many of the Embarc resorts are not even branded Embarc

Whistler is named Club Intrawest Whistler And Palm Desert has no branding at all.

 

[Talent312]

Will their be a new owner book release by Hilton explaining all these new changes to DRI and Hilton owners?

What is this thing you call a "book?"
HGV stopped issuing anything on paper about 15 years ago or so.
But we can go to the website with lots of pretty pictures & graphs.
There is a fairly robust Help section, where you can find The Rules.

 

[escanoe]

What is this thing you call a "book?"
HGV stopped issuing anything on paper about 15 years ago or so.
But we can go to the website with lots of pretty pictures & graphs.
There is a fairly robust Help section, where you can find The Rules.

When I bought my first resale contract in 2018, they sent me a nice photo book of all the resorts. Have not seen a printed one since.

 

[atl]

Hey all, news for this thread. The "Properties Available During the HGV Max Reservation Window" page looks to be live:

Member Sign In

Some disclaimers that explain the difference from #1 in this thread:

Many of these properties have not yet been rebranded as part of the Hilton Vacation Club property collection. As a result, they continue to offer services and on-site features that do not follow the Hilton Grand Vacations brand standards. The rebranding of Diamond properties is a phased, multi-year effort that is scheduled to end in 2026. Resorts that have been rebranded carry a "Hilton Vacation Club" name.

So I count 57 HGVMax (DRI) properties on that page. Add the 93 "properties you'll continue to have access to during the club reservation window", and Hilton seems to be on target to exceed that "140 properties" portfolio.

 

[Nowaker]

Fixed link: https://club.hiltongrandvacations.com/en/hgv-max/hgv-max-properties

 

[REDDOG24]

Hey all, news for this thread. The "Properties Available During the HGV Max Reservation Window" page looks to be live:

Member Sign In

Some disclaimers that explain the difference from #1 in this thread:


So I count 57 HGVMax (DRI) properties on that page. Add the 93 "properties you'll continue to have access to during the club reservation window", and Hilton seems to be on target to exceed that "140 properties" portfolio.

It's nice to see a list finally. Up to this moment we had to go on was verbal statements from sales people.

 

[atl]

It's nice to see a list finally. Up to this moment we had to go on was verbal statements from sales people.

Exactly.

Pasting the text since it currently is behind a login screen:

ARIZONA

• Bell Rock Inn - Sedona, AZ
• Kohl's Ranch Lodge - Payson, AZ
• Los Abrigados Resort and Spa - Sedona, AZ
• PVC at The Roundhouse Resort - Pinetop, AZ
• Rancho Manana Resort - Cavecreek, AZ
• Ridge on Sedona, a Hilton Vacation Club - Sedona, AZ
• Scottsdale Links Resort, a Hilton Vacation Club - Scottsdale, AZ
• Scottsdale Villa Mirage, a Hilton Vacation Club - Scottsdale, AZ
• Sedona Summit, a Hilton Vacation Club - Sedona, AZ
• Varsity Clubs of America - Tuscon - Tuscon, AZ

CALIFORNIA

• Lake Tahoe Resort, a Hilton Vacation Club - South Lake Tahoe, CA
• Palm Canyon Resort - Palm Springs, CA
• Riviera Beach Resort - Capistrano Beach, CA
• Riviera Oaks Resort & Racquet Club - Ramona, CA
• Riviera Shores Resort - Capistrano Beach, CA
• San Luis Bay Inn - Avila, CA
• Tahoe Seasons Resort - South Lake Tahoe, CA

COLORADO

• The Historic Crags Lodge - Estes Park, CO

FLORIDA - ATLANTIC

• Crescent Resort on South Beach - Miami Beach, FL
• Daytona Beach Regency - Daytona Beach, FL
• The Cove on Ormond Beach - Ormond Beach, FL

FLORIDA - ORLANDO

• Alhambra - Kissimmee, FL
• Barefoot'n Resort - Kissimmee, FL
• Bryan's Spanish Cove - Orlando, FL
• Cypress Pointe Resort - Orlando, FL
• Grand Beach - Orlando, FL
• Grande Villas Resort - Orlando, FL
• Liki Tiki Village - Winter Garden, FL
• Mystic Dunes, a Hilton Vacation Club - Orlando, FL
• Orbit One Vacation - Kissimmee, FL
• Parkway International Resort - Kissimmee, FL
• Polynesian Isles - Kissimmee, FL

FLORIDA - GULF

• Charter Club Resort of Naples Bay - Naples, FL

HAWAII - KAUAI

• The Point at Poipu, a Hilton Vacation Club - Koloa, HI

HAWAII - MAUI

• Ka'anapali Beach Club - Lahaina, HI

HAWAII - OAHU

• The Modern Honolulu - Honolulu HI

INDIANA

• Varsity Clubs of America - South Bend - South Bend, IN

MISSOURI

• The Suites at Fall Creek - Branson, MO

NEVADA - LAS VEGAS

• Cancun Resort Las Vegas - Las Vegas, NV
• Desert Paradise Resort - Las Vegas, NV
• Polo Towers Suites and Villas - Las Vegas, NV

NEW MEXICO

• Villas de Santa Fe - Santa Fe, NM

NORTH CAROLINA

• Beachwoods Resort - Kitty Hawk, NC
• Fairway Forest Resort - Sapphire, NC

TENNESSEE

• Bent Creek Golf Village - Gatlinburg, TN
• Sunrise Ridge Resort - Pigeon Forge, TN

UTAH

• Cedar Breaks Lodge - Brian Head, UT

VIRGINIA

• Beach Quarters Resort - Virginia Beach, VA
• Boardwalk Resort and Villas - Virginia Beach, VA
• Greensprings Vacation Resort - Williamsburg, VA
• Ocean Beach Club, a Hilton Vacation Club - Virginia Beach, VA
• Oceanaire, a Hilton Vacation Club - Virginia Beach, VA
• The Historic Powhatan, a Hilton Vacation Club - Williamsburg, VA
• Turtle Cay Resort - Virginia Beach, VA

International

MEXICO

• Cabo Azul Resort and Spa - Baja California, Mexico

SINT MAARTEN

• Flamingo Beach Resort - Philipsburg, Sint Maarten
• Royal Palm Beach Resort - Philipsburg, Sint Maarten

 

[escanoe]

Virginia (my state) looks good on paper. Williamsburg should be easy to book at 6 mos (as it is in any system that has it), but I expect Virginia Beach in beach season to simply be a big tease.

 

[HuskerATL]

Here is a key statement on this page which implies no 10 month/9 month reservations....so not sure how the Loyalty Search Tool fits into this unless that is the "exceptions apply" part.

Reservations at these properties will fall under the new HGV Max Reservation Window, which allows booking starting six months before check-out (exceptions apply).

 

[dioxide45]

Exactly.

Pasting the text since it currently is behind a login screen:

ARIZONA

• Bell Rock Inn - Sedona, AZ
• Kohl's Ranch Lodge - Payson, AZ
• Los Abrigados Resort and Spa - Sedona, AZ
• PVC at The Roundhouse Resort - Pinetop, AZ
• Rancho Manana Resort - Cavecreek, AZ
• Ridge on Sedona, a Hilton Vacation Club - Sedona, AZ
• Scottsdale Links Resort, a Hilton Vacation Club - Scottsdale, AZ
• Scottsdale Villa Mirage, a Hilton Vacation Club - Scottsdale, AZ
• Sedona Summit, a Hilton Vacation Club - Sedona, AZ
• Varsity Clubs of America - Tuscon - Tuscon, AZ

CALIFORNIA

• Lake Tahoe Resort, a Hilton Vacation Club - South Lake Tahoe, CA
• Palm Canyon Resort - Palm Springs, CA
• Riviera Beach Resort - Capistrano Beach, CA
• Riviera Oaks Resort & Racquet Club - Ramona, CA
• Riviera Shores Resort - Capistrano Beach, CA
• San Luis Bay Inn - Avila, CA
• Tahoe Seasons Resort - South Lake Tahoe, CA

COLORADO

• The Historic Crags Lodge - Estes Park, CO

FLORIDA - ATLANTIC

• Crescent Resort on South Beach - Miami Beach, FL
• Daytona Beach Regency - Daytona Beach, FL
• The Cove on Ormond Beach - Ormond Beach, FL

FLORIDA - ORLANDO

• Alhambra - Kissimmee, FL
• Barefoot'n Resort - Kissimmee, FL
• Bryan's Spanish Cove - Orlando, FL
• Cypress Pointe Resort - Orlando, FL
• Grand Beach - Orlando, FL
• Grande Villas Resort - Orlando, FL
• Liki Tiki Village - Winter Garden, FL
• Mystic Dunes, a Hilton Vacation Club - Orlando, FL
• Orbit One Vacation - Kissimmee, FL
• Parkway International Resort - Kissimmee, FL
• Polynesian Isles - Kissimmee, FL

FLORIDA - GULF

• Charter Club Resort of Naples Bay - Naples, FL

HAWAII - KAUAI

• The Point at Poipu, a Hilton Vacation Club - Koloa, HI

HAWAII - MAUI

• Ka'anapali Beach Club - Lahaina, HI

HAWAII - OAHU

• The Modern Honolulu - Honolulu HI

INDIANA

• Varsity Clubs of America - South Bend - South Bend, IN

MISSOURI

• The Suites at Fall Creek - Branson, MO

NEVADA - LAS VEGAS

• Cancun Resort Las Vegas - Las Vegas, NV
• Desert Paradise Resort - Las Vegas, NV
• Polo Towers Suites and Villas - Las Vegas, NV

NEW MEXICO

• Villas de Santa Fe - Santa Fe, NM

NORTH CAROLINA

• Beachwoods Resort - Kitty Hawk, NC
• Fairway Forest Resort - Sapphire, NC

TENNESSEE

• Bent Creek Golf Village - Gatlinburg, TN
• Sunrise Ridge Resort - Pigeon Forge, TN

UTAH

• Cedar Breaks Lodge - Brian Head, UT

VIRGINIA

• Beach Quarters Resort - Virginia Beach, VA
• Boardwalk Resort and Villas - Virginia Beach, VA
• Greensprings Vacation Resort - Williamsburg, VA
• Ocean Beach Club, a Hilton Vacation Club - Virginia Beach, VA
• Oceanaire, a Hilton Vacation Club - Virginia Beach, VA
• The Historic Powhatan, a Hilton Vacation Club - Williamsburg, VA
• Turtle Cay Resort - Virginia Beach, VA

International

MEXICO

• Cabo Azul Resort and Spa - Baja California, Mexico

SINT MAARTEN

• Flamingo Beach Resort - Philipsburg, Sint Maarten
• Royal Palm Beach Resort - Philipsburg, Sint Maarten

I see only nine so far look to be rebranded. I suspect all of these will be rebranded at some points? Is that the plan at least? Does this list make up all of the true DRI resorts?

 

[dayooper]

I see only nine so far look to be rebranded. I suspect all of these will be rebranded at some points? Is that the plan at least? Does this list make up all of the true DRI resorts?

No, at first glance there are none of the DRI owned European resorts on that list. The European properties are a mix of true DRI and affiliated properties.

They also list only one of certain properties that had multiples listed on the DRI website. They are probably just combining those into one.

 

[atl]

Looks like Embarc Whistler is next on the list for HGVC rebrands:

Hilton Grand Vacations Club Whistler

Book your stay at our conveniently located Hilton Grand Vacations Club Whistler full-service hotel, offering spacious guest rooms and exceptional amenities.

www.hilton.com

 

[letsgobobby]

So Embarc will rebrand HGVC but not be available to current HGVC owners?

 

[Talent312]

So Embarc will rebrand HGVC but not be available to current HGVC owners?

From what I've read, the name-change is, so far, name-change only.
HGV may be working on how to parlay Embarc exchanges into big-$$,
like they did with DRI resorts.
.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Re: fee or free. No one knows. Need to wait and see.

This will be a fantastic addition if there is low/no additional buy-in and the points are reasonable.

We skied here pre-Diamond when it was an affiliate of HGVC. We had a 4th floor 1 bdrm room with fireplace and balcony. Ski lockers and walk to Blackcombe lifts. Next to Fairmont.. Quiet side of town but walkable to town.

 

[HuskerATL]

So Embarc will rebrand HGVC but not be available to current HGVC owners?

I think HGVClub Legacy will have access to them like all HGVC.

 

[HuskerATL]

It is interesting, this page, https://www.hiltongrandvacations.co...ornia/hilton-grand-vacations-club-palm-desert , used to say coming in late 2022 for Palm Desert but that message is now gone however, it isn't available in our portal to reserve.

 

[HuskerATL]

It is interesting, when you go to this page with all the resort listed, Whistler isn't on there but Palm Desert is, https://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/

 

[drucifer]

I'm finding all of this a bit confusing. I'm guessing the framework is:

bHC - 5 star or high-demand/high-priced urban locations (Waldorf/Conrad equivalent)
HGVC - 4 star mostly vacation destinations (Hilton equivalent)
HVC (formerly Diamond) 3+ star (Hilton Garden equivalent)
TBD (formerly Diamond) 2+star (Hampton equivalent)

But getting to that framework is a bit awkward with all the existing deeds/contracts, and the corporate need for fresh money ("HGVMax"ing for $$$).
It looks like it will stay a bit confusing until it isn't. At least it isn't looking like the "forever merger" of Marriott.

 

[HuskerATL]

I'm finding all of this a bit confusing. I'm guessing the framework is:

bHC - 5 star or high-demand/high-priced urban locations (Waldorf/Conrad equivalent)
HGVC - 4 star mostly vacation destinations (Hilton equivalent)
HVC (formerly Diamond) 3+ star (Hilton Garden equivalent)
TBD (formerly Diamond) 2+star (Hampton equivalent)

But getting to that framework is a bit awkward with all the existing deeds/contracts, and the corporate need for fresh money ("HGVMax"ing for $$$).
It looks like it will stay a bit confusing until it isn't. At least it isn't looking like the "forever merger" of Marriott.

Funny, I would almost rather stay at a newer Hampton than a Hilton Garden Inn or Hilton...the more expensive they are, the less you get...of course, the Hampton breakfast haven't quite returned to pre-pandemic level yet but still just fine for a quick get away. I suppose if I wanted a resort versus just a room to sleep in with a free breakfast, I may look at other options.

This is from the HGV investor meeting:

 

[ljmiii]

From an HGV investor presentation with explicit branding...

 

[HuskerATL]

Interesting that they put Embassy Suites in the Upper Upscale category. I would put them in the same category as DoubleTree and Homewood Suites. I have stayed at many and they are the same or sometimes worse except the free breakfast and happy hour. I do like Homewood Suites though also and tend to try to stay there for domestic work travel.