Rebranded DRI resorts to HVC or HGVC

[Eric B]

I hope so. I don't see P@P (Kauai) and KBC (Kaanapali) or Cabo Azul on the list yet. Those are the properties that excite me the most and may incent us to sign up. Not sure why Cabo Azul is not there yet. I heard it was already very nice and wouldn't need upgrades.

They were on the list I posted earlier, but don't have availability on the site yet. KBC has the points chart on it:

Platinum: 2022 Weeks 14-15, 26, 47, 51-52
Platinum: 2023 Weeks 13-14, 26, 47, 51-52

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
1 Bedroom Scenic View	900	1,800	9,000
1 Bedroom Oceanview	1,150	2,300	11,500
1 Bedroom Deluxe Oceanview	1,600	3,200	16,000
2 Bedroom	2,100	4,200	21,000
2 Bedroom Presidential Suite	5,450	10,900	54,500

Gold: 2022 Weeks 1-13, 16-25, 27-46, 48-50
Gold: 2023 Weeks 1-12, 15-25, 27-46, 48-50

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
1 Bedroom Scenic View	650	1,300	6,500
1 Bedroom Oceanview	850	1,700	8,500
1 Bedroom Deluxe Oceanview	1,150	2,300	11,500
2 Bedroom	1,550	3,100	15,500
2 Bedroom Presidential Suite	4,400	8,800	44,000

So does P@P:

Platinum: 2022 Weeks 14-15, 26, 47, 51-52
Platinum: 2023 Weeks 13-14, 26, 47, 51-52

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
2 Bedroom Garden View	1,100	2,200	11,000
2 Bedroom Partial Oceanview	1,400	2,800	14,000
2 Bedroom Oceanview	1,600	3,200	16,000
2 Bedroom Oceanfront	1,950	3,900	19,500
3 Bedroom Presidential Suite	5,000	10,000	50,000

Gold: 2022 Weeks 1-13, 16-25, 27-46, 48-50
Gold: 2023 Weeks 1-12, 15-25, 27-46, 48-50

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
2 Bedroom Garden View	850	1,700	8,500
2 Bedroom Partial Oceanview	1,000	2,000	10,000
2 Bedroom Oceanview	1,150	2,300	11,500
2 Bedroom Oceanfront	1,550	3,100	15,500
3 Bedroom Presidential Suite	3,900	7,800	39,000

Cabo Azul has the structure set up, but the Points Chart area of it says coming soon. I don't think it has anything to do with the status of the resorts themselves, but instead is a matter of finishing up the IT infrastructure to allow booking.

 

[NiteMaire]

The Modern may be fine but would rather stay at HHV with full lanais and kitchens.

There's always plenty availability at The Modern in Traditional (weeks) DeX. 1940 weeks available with 951 of them in the next 6 months.

I don't see P@P (Kauai) and KBC (Kaanapali) or Cabo Azul on the list yet.

For both P@P and KBC, there are only 2 weeks with 1 in the next 6 months. For Cabo Azul, there are 981 weeks available with 89 in the next 6 months.

P@P inventory has been all over the place this year. At times there is good availability, then it disappears only to reappear later. There is one trend though for P@P; availability is no where near where it was 1-2 years ago. I'm not blaming Max since inventory wasn't in Max until very recently, but HGV is up to something. KBC was decent until the last 6 or so months.

HGV is trending negative from my perspective. I don't know what inventory looks like for points owners, but legacy weeks owners seem to be negatively impacted.

 

[escanoe]

There's always plenty availability at The Modern in Traditional (weeks) DeX. 1940 weeks available with 951 of them in the next 6 months.

I remain curious about DeX and its future at HGV. I hope they grow/expand it to offer better and more affordable options rather leverage it to negotiate a better deal with RCI that doesn't benefit owners. Early signs are not all that encouraging. But I never expected them to decide how to move forward on it early in the merger.

 

[magmue]

P@P inventory has been all over the place this year.... There is one trend though for P@P; availability is no where near where it was 1-2 years ago.

I wonder if they have started taking units offline for the planned renovations?

 

[Eric B]

Just booked a couple of nights at Cabo Azul before our next two weeks at Flora Farm. It's nice being able to get just two nights there. Most of what is available is studio units with partial courtyard/partial pool views.

Edited to add: It's a two night minimum booking there. Still no availability loaded for P@P or KBC.

Here's the point chart:

Platinum: Weeks 1-52

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
Studio (Blocked View)	700	1,400	7,000
Studio (Partial View of Courtyard or Pool)	798	1,596	7,980
Studio (Courtyard or Pool View)	930	1,860	9,300
1 Bedroom (Blocked View)	750	1,500	7,500
1 Bedroom (Garden View)	798	1,596	7,980
1 Bedroom (Ninos Pool View)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom (Pool View)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom (Pool or Partial Oceanview)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom Deluxe (Pool View)	1,194	2,388	11,940
1 Bedroom (Oceanview)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom (Blocked View)	900	1,800	9,000
2 Bedroom (Ninos Pool View)	930	1,860	9,300
2 Bedroom (Garden View)	930	1,860	9,300
2 Bedroom (Pool View)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom (Pool or Partial Oceanview)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom Deluxe (Pool View)	1,596	3,192	15,960
2 Bedroom (Oceanview)	1,728	3,456	17,280
3 Bedroom Penthouse (Oceanview)	2,994	5,988	29,940
3 Bedroom Grand Penthouse (Oceanview)	3,594	7,188	35,940

 

[pedro47]

Have anyone seen the maint fees & The Clubs fees for 2023 for Greensprings Vacation Resort or The Historic Powhatan Resort ????

 

[GT75]

Have anyone seen the maint fees & The Clubs fees for 2023 for Greensprings Vacation Resort or The Historic Powhatan Resort ????

Since those must be DRI or former, I would ask your question in the DRI forum.

 

[youppi]

Just booked a couple of nights at Cabo Azul before our next two weeks at Flora Farm. It's nice being able to get just two nights there. Most of what is available is studio units with partial courtyard/partial pool views.

Edited to add: It's a two night minimum booking there. Still no availability loaded for P@P or KBC.

Here's the point chart:

Platinum: Weeks 1-52

UNIT SIZE	MON-THU POINTS PER NIGHT	FRI-SUN POINTS PER NIGHT	7-NIGHT POINTS PER WEEK
Studio (Blocked View)	700	1,400	7,000
Studio (Partial View of Courtyard or Pool)	798	1,596	7,980
Studio (Courtyard or Pool View)	930	1,860	9,300
1 Bedroom (Blocked View)	750	1,500	7,500
1 Bedroom (Garden View)	798	1,596	7,980
1 Bedroom (Ninos Pool View)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom (Pool View)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom (Pool or Partial Oceanview)	1,062	2,124	10,620
1 Bedroom Deluxe (Pool View)	1,194	2,388	11,940
1 Bedroom (Oceanview)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom (Blocked View)	900	1,800	9,000
2 Bedroom (Ninos Pool View)	930	1,860	9,300
2 Bedroom (Garden View)	930	1,860	9,300
2 Bedroom (Pool View)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom (Pool or Partial Oceanview)	1,332	2,664	13,320
2 Bedroom Deluxe (Pool View)	1,596	3,192	15,960
2 Bedroom (Oceanview)	1,728	3,456	17,280
3 Bedroom Penthouse (Oceanview)	2,994	5,988	29,940
3 Bedroom Grand Penthouse (Oceanview)	3,594	7,188	35,940

In the Club, depending on the month, many unit sizes are available at Cabo Azul for a 2 nights stay in the next 6 months even the 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View.
There are too many units available at Cabo Azul so I reduced the list by searching for 6 people only, 2 nights stay between today and next week. Did you see those units with HGV Max ?
Note: The number of points for some 2 nights stay can be different for you because with DRI, Sun-Thu is 10% per night and Fri-Sat is 30% per night.

4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 21,564 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 6,912 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 14,376 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 3,600 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 6,384 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 9,576 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 5,400 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!

I changed the view to see a month for a 2 night stay

 

[Eric B]

In the Club, depending on the month, many unit sizes are available at Cabo Azul for a 2 nights stay in the next 6 months even the 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View.
There are too many units available at Cabo Azul so I reduced the list by searching for 6 people only, 2 nights stay between today and next week. Did you see those units with HGV Max ?
Note: The number of points for some 2 nights stay can be different for you because with DRI, Sun-Thu is 10% per night and Fri-Sat is 30% per night.

4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 21,564 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 6,912 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 14,376 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 3,600 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 6,384 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 9,576 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 5,400 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!

I changed the view to see a month for a 2 night stay
View attachment 67943

They weren't there the other day. I'll check again later this afternoon.

 

[pedro47]

Since those must be DRI or former, I would ask your question in the DRI forum.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Eric B]

In the Club, depending on the month, many unit sizes are available at Cabo Azul for a 2 nights stay in the next 6 months even the 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View.
There are too many units available at Cabo Azul so I reduced the list by searching for 6 people only, 2 nights stay between today and next week. Did you see those units with HGV Max ?
Note: The number of points for some 2 nights stay can be different for you because with DRI, Sun-Thu is 10% per night and Fri-Sat is 30% per night.

4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
4-Nov-2022 - 6-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 21,564 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 6,912 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 14,376 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 3,600 Points Book It!
5-Nov-2022 - 7-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
6-Nov-2022 - 8-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Garden View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ocean View Max 6 People 3,456 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
7-Nov-2022 - 9-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 3BR Grand Penthouse Ocean View Max 6 People 7,188 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
8-Nov-2022 - 10-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 3,192 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 1,860 Points Book It!
9-Nov-2022 - 11-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 2,664 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 6,384 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 3,720 Points Book It!
10-Nov-2022 - 12-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 5,328 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool or Partial Ocean View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Deluxe Pool View Max 6 People 9,576 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Blocked View Max 6 People 5,400 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Ninos Pool View Max 6 People 5,580 Points Book It!
11-Nov-2022 - 13-Nov-2022 2 Nights 2BR Pool View Max 6 People 7,992 Points Book It!

I changed the view to see a month for a 2 night stay
View attachment 67943

The earliest availability there in Max is April 15, 2023 and it seems to be just studios.

 

[youppi]

The earliest availability there in Max is April 15, 2023 and it seems to be just studios.

So, they didn't give any units of the winter months to Max.
I normally don't use the matrix view but with the matrix view we can see that there is less availability then what we can think when we look at the list view.
So, the complete inventory in The Club at Cabo Azul (2 nights stay) in matrix view is:
Nov-Dec

Jan-Feb

Mar-Apr

May-Jun

Jul-Aug + some Sep (10 months reached Sep 5th)

order of units of the above images because they are not clear (TUG reduces too much images size and we lose resolution)

 

[Eric B]

So, they didn't give any units of the winter months to Max.
I normally don't use the matrix view but with the matrix view we can see that there is less availability then what we can think when we look at the list view.
So, the complete inventory in The Club at Cabo Azul (2 nights stay) in matrix view is:
Nov-Dec
View attachment 67973

Jan-Feb
View attachment 67974

Mar-Apr
View attachment 67975

May-Jun
View attachment 67976

Jul-Aug + some Sep (10 months reached)
View attachment 67977

order of units of the above images because they are not clear (TUG compresses too much images)
View attachment 67978

At least they haven't this year for the beginning of Max. My thought is that they really do need to balance supply and demand and there is likely not a great number of people in Max yet. Additionally many of the folks in Max probably already have winter plans (I know I do). Being able to book a couple of nights in May worked out well for my schedule, though, and I might be able to use a couple of nights in October. I'd be more tempted by the bigger rooms or depending on the quality of the studios after I've been there myself - it's in a good location. I like what you get with the studios at the Westins, but Westin Los Cabos is a bit out of town.

 

[GT75]

My thought is that they really do need to balance supply and demand and there is likely not a great number of people in Max yet

If this is the case (and I am not disputing your statement), wouldn't that act more like RCI then? I mean, would you expect HGV to release inventory in HGVC and HVC side periodically?

 

[Eric B]

If this is the case (and I am not disputing your statement), wouldn't that act more like RCI then? I mean, would you expect HGV to release inventory in HGVC and HVC side periodically?

I believe what we are seeing by comparing the inventory available on the DRI side and the HGV Max side for at least Cabo Azul shows that it is not a straight access to all inventory at the 6-month point. My hypothesis is that what we are seeing is an exchange system of sorts with the inventory available through Max being managed by either HGV or DRI or both. I can't tell if there is anything resembling the lower availability at Cabo Azul through Max as compared with DRI for the HGVC or bHC resorts in Max for the DRI side; that would be interesting to see and could help settle for us how the system is set up as HGV hasn't been terribly straightforward about that yet.

 

[GT75]

HGV hasn't been terribly straightforward about that yet.

100% agreement there. I even think that everyone would agree with that. @Eric B and @youppi, nice work, keep trying to figure it out.

 

[Eric B]

@Clifbell, You're probably uniquely positioned to be able to compare the Max availability to the HGV and DRI availability from both sides. Could you look at a few random resorts within the 6-month Max booking window and see if they are identical for any? It seems like Cabo Azul is not through a comparison of the HGV side of Max and DRI native availability. I'm curious if the same situation is present for any other resorts and it will make good fodder for discussions with sales folks during "updates".

Thanks in advance!

 

[pedro47]

@Clifbell, You're probably uniquely positioned to be able to compare the Max availability to the HGV and DRI availability from both sides. Could you look at a few random resorts within the 6-month Max booking window and see if they are identical for any? It seems like Cabo Azul is not through a comparison of the HGV side of Max and DRI native availability. I'm curious if the same situation is present for any other resorts and it will make good fodder for discussions with sales folks during "updates".

Thanks in advance!

Have you paid your DRI, Club Dues for 2023?
If, so how much was The Club Dues?

 

[Eric B]

Have you paid your DRI, Club Dues for 2023?
If, so how much was The Club Dues?

I own in HGV and bHC with Max, not DRI.

 

[GT75]

@Clifbell, You're probably uniquely positioned to be able to compare the Max availability to the HGV and DRI availability from both sides. Could you look at a few random resorts within the 6-month Max booking window and see if they are identical for any? It seems like Cabo Azul is not through a comparison of the HGV side of Max and DRI native availability. I'm curious if the same situation is present for any other resorts and it will make good fodder for discussions with sales folks during "updates".

@Clifbell, this looks like an excellent Timeshare Traveler Episode 102.

 

[Clifbell]

@Clifbell, this looks like an excellent Timeshare Traveler Episode 102.

Check out Episode 101.... I look at state by state availability in DRI locations... I also mentioned Hilton locations from DRI... It was just a point in time, but a good reference... I used screen grabs to capture the life results.

 

[youppi]

@Eric B I checked Sunday (2022-11-06) some DRI resorts availability check-in for 2 nights stay in the Club using my HI Collection points and I grabbed the htlm of the matrix view of each of those resorts and saved them to files.
After that, I created a script in Python to reproduce the matrix view in a Google sheet from the html file I grabbed last Sunday.
So, you can see the Google Sheet at this url: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nx8fF7_jht-fXl8DT90sL-c97_VM_x3ioTz8BK-Rs2I/edit?usp=sharing

The list of resorts I grabbed the availability is: The Point at Poipu, Ka'anapali Beach Club, Cabo Azul, Sedona Summit and HVC Lake Tahoe.

Cabo Azul is not part of HI Collection. So, I'm limited to 10 months.
Only Sunset units at Sedona Summit are part of the HI Collection (13 months access). This is why the other units at Sedona Summit don't have any inventory after 10 months.
HVC Lake Tahoe has some inventory in the California Collection and HI Collection has 13 months access to the CA Collection inventory.

 

[pedro47]

I understand you can paid your 2023 MF on the website.
But The Club Dues for 2023 have not been publish on the website. What's Up.

 

[Eric B]

@Eric B I checked Sunday (2022-11-06) some DRI resorts availability check-in for 2 nights stay in the Club using my HI Collection points and I grabbed the htlm of the matrix view of each of those resorts and saved them to files.
After that, I created a script in Python to reproduce the matrix view in a Google sheet from the html file I grabbed last Sunday.
So, you can see the Google Sheet at this url: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nx8fF7_jht-fXl8DT90sL-c97_VM_x3ioTz8BK-Rs2I/edit?usp=sharing

The list of resorts I grabbed the availability is: The Point at Poipu, Ka'anapali Beach Club, Cabo Azul, Sedona Summit and HVC Lake Tahoe.

Cabo Azul is not part of HI Collection. So, I'm limited to 10 months.
Only Sunset units at Sedona Summit are part of the HI Collection (13 months access). This is why the other units at Sedona Summit don't have any inventory after 10 months.
HVC Lake Tahoe has some inventory in the California Collection and HI Collection has 13 months access to the CA Collection inventory.

Still nothing loaded for P@P or KBC. There's more availability available at Sedona Summit starting with a studio December 26, but nothing anywhere near what there is on your spreadsheet. Somewhat disappointing if Max had been my reason for upgrading, but there was enough to make it worth using since I had it. Will see if it gets better in the future.