Rebranded DRI resorts to HVC or HGVC

[1Kflyerguy]

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[pedro47]

Is any of this in writing from Hilton?

 

[1Kflyerguy]

If your talking the about the brands, then yes though HGV tends to consider the Hilton Club and by Hilton Clubs as sub-brands of the Hilton Grand Vacation Club, At least in the past that's how they referred to them

 

[GT75]

All Embarc clubs will be HGVC. Confirmed at Embarc BOD meeting à few months ago.

Thank you for that information. That is great news for us HGVC members and I also hope for former CI/Embarc members. Do you have any information on the exchange agreement/rules between these two programs?

 

[letsgobobby]

All Embarc clubs will be HGVC.

But does that mean equal and proportional exchanges like with any other HGVC club window? It doesn't seem it could be that simple; both groups of owners have rights and some might oppose such a full merger. For instance I'd love access to Zihua and Whistler, but might resent the demand at 9 months at Lagoon. Maybe they enter HGVC but the windows are different or there are other restrictions. Don't think we can presume anything at this point.

 

[cd5]

Thank you for that information. That is great news for us HGVC members and I also hope for former CI/Embarc members. Do you have any information on the exchange agreement/rules between these two programs?

No news about any agreements. (yet)

 

[cd5]

But does that mean equal and proportional exchanges like with any other HGVC club window? It doesn't seem it could be that simple; both groups of owners have rights and some might oppose such a full merger. For instance I'd love access to Zihua and Whistler, but might resent the demand at 9 months at Lagoon. Maybe they enter HGVC but the windows are different or there are other restrictions. Don't think we can presume anything at this point.

I think it will be difficult to have substantive changes because of the master déclarations on which the clubs are based. Any access given would likely have to be because of mutual exchanges between the 2 systems.

 

[GT75]

No news about any agreements. (yet)

Thanks. Please keep us posted if/when you find out.

 

[GT75]

I think it will be difficult to have substantive changes because of the master déclarations on which the clubs are based. Any access given would likely have to be because of mutual exchanges between the 2 systems.

Yes, that is my thoughts also. I am wondering/hoping for a similar arrangement to what we had before CI was bought by DRI. I think that this was around 2015 or 2016.

 

[dayooper]

There will be 2 types of resorts under the Hilton banner - HGVC made up of the existing Hilton Vacation Clubs + the 9 Embarc Clubs, and HVC - made up of the current Diamond Resorts. You are correct and I'm not sure why you felt you needed to be snarky about that - I made a mistake in the acronym but that was what was meant - Diamond will be branded Hilton Vacation Club (without the "Grand").

Absolutely wasn’t trying to be snarky. I have appreciated everything you have shared and even went back into your history to get your info on CI! My sarcasm was based off of the fact HGV‘s rules are so different, but named so similar.

I truly apologize if you thought I was being snarky toward you.

 

[Agepay]

I think it will be difficult to have substantive changes because of the master déclarations on which the clubs are based. Any access given would likely have to be because of mutual exchanges between the 2 systems.

Hmm... so as an HGVC member about to purchase Embarc resale points to finally have access at Sandestin, this may prove be a waste of my money in a few months if we are given access anyway.

Other scenarios: 12mos booking for original TS/ 9 mos for newly acquired. And/or, HGVC offers access to newly acquired properties for a purchase price of $7-15k for members of both systems.
So advise to buy into Embarc now or wait and see?

 

[cd5]

Hmm... so as an HGVC member about to purchase Embarc resale points to finally have access at Sandestin, this may prove be a waste of my money in a few months if we are given access anyway.

Other scenarios: 12mos booking for original TS/ 9 mos for newly acquired. And/or, HGVC offers access to newly acquired properties for a purchase price of $7-15k for members of both systems.
So advise to buy into Embarc now or wait and see?

I advise getting Embarc points now. Cheaper than the price Hilton will likely charge to get access & better member booking timelines.

 

[cd5]

Yes, that is my thoughts also. I am wondering/hoping for a similar arrangement to what we had before CI was bought by DRI. I think that this was around 2015 or 2016.

Doesn't look like Hilton wants this. We were told any access would cost $

 

[cd5]

Is any of this in writing from Hilton?

If you're referring to my comments, it's on record in our board meeting minutes. Accessible to members on the Embarc site after they have been approved at the next board meeting...

 

[cd5]

But does that mean equal and proportional exchanges like with any other HGVC club window? It doesn't seem it could be that simple; both groups of owners have rights and some might oppose such a full merger. For instance I'd love access to Zihua and Whistler, but might resent the demand at 9 months at Lagoon. Maybe they enter HGVC but the windows are different or there are other restrictions. Don't think we can presume anything at this point.

Embarc will be rebranded as HGVC however nothing will be simple, in effect, and it will cost $ to access. No details yet other than saying that the previous arrangement (prior to the DRI purchase of Club Intrawest in 2015) is not in the books (Embarc members were interested too). There are many restrictions that will limit access to Embarc from non-Embarc members - the governance documents for the clubs are very precise in what can and can't be done.

 

[brp]

Embarc will be rebranded as HGVC however nothing will be simple, in effect, and it will cost $ to access. No details yet other than saying that the previous arrangement (prior to the DRI purchase of Club Intrawest in 2015) is not in the books (Embarc members were interested too). There are many restrictions that will limit access to Embarc from non-Embarc members - the governance documents for the clubs are very precise in what can and can't be done.

Thanks. So, as expected and discussed here, these will, effectively, be HGVC in name only as far as existing HGVC members (especially us resale scum ) are concerned, correct? No access like other HGVC properties without added $$.

Cheers.

 

[Agepay]

Embarc will be rebranded as HGVC however nothing will be simple, in effect, and it will cost $ to access. No details yet other than saying that the previous arrangement (prior to the DRI purchase of Club Intrawest in 2015) is not in the books (Embarc members were interested too). There are many restrictions that will limit access to Embarc from non-Embarc members - the governance documents for the clubs are very precise in what can and can't be done.

Thankful for your help! Good info.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Great. Just what we need is another club within the club to add to the confusion. In addition to by Hilton Club, HGVC, HGV we will now have eHGVC? (Embarc-Hilton Grand Vacations Club)

 

[cd5]

Great. Just what we need is another club within the club to add to the confusion. In addition to by Hilton Club, HGVC, HGV we will now have eHGVC? (Embarc-Hilton Grand Vacations Club)

Looks like it...

 

[TUGBrian]

embarc max! =D

 

[cd5]

Thanks. So, as expected and discussed here, these will, effectively, be HGVC in name only as far as existing HGVC members (especially us resale scum ) are concerned, correct? No access like other HGVC properties without added $$.

Cheers.

It would likely be cheaper (and more advantageous) to just buy resale Embarc points if you want to go regularly.

 

[cricket]

Sint Maarten
Flamingo Beach, a Hilton Vacation Club
Royal Palm, a Hilton Vacation Club

Not currently true as of July 2. I am currently sitting in a room at Flamingo. Neither has been rebranded as of now. I was told they expect it by "the end of June (obviously didn't happen!) or July". We will see. But the listing is not totally correct.

 

[GT75]

It would likely be cheaper (and more advantageous) to just buy resale Embarc points if you want to go regularly.

This is the same advice we have been giving if someone is wanting regular access to either HGVC or DRI (soon to be HVC). Why should someone "settle for the leftovers when they want the main event."

 

[Talent312]

Why should someone pay for leftovers when they don't want the main course?
Is it becuz the main course is hot & steamy, and looks so yummy?
.

 

[Bill4728]

Where are you seeing this rebranding?? On the RCI website, available to non RCI members, there is no rebranding of the Embarc resorts. In fact many of the Embarc resorts are not even branded Embarc

Whistler is named Club Intrawest Whistler And Palm Desert has no branding at all.