Marriott Destination Points...They have done it!!!!!! {Merged}

[winger]

So, for interested multiple-week owners who already gave away one 2011 week to II ?

What if an owner owns 2 developer weeks - where one 2011 week is reserved at his home resort, and the second 2011 week has already been reserved at his home resort BUT that week has been deposited with II (for a pending, deposit-first request) ?

Is Marriott going to allow the conversion of both of the owner's units by the 12/31/2010 posted deadline (I assume the deadline is for the special introductory enrollment rates of $595 and $695 for single and multiple weeks being converted)?

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BTW, from what I have read, since we purchased our Marriott ownership mainly to trade/exchange, I think this new system would work out for us since the annual club fee ($165 now) covers the conversion to MRP fee, II membership, unit-split option, and internal Marriott-to-Marriott exchanges (which II now charges like $110?). It seems we can continue trading (even to other Marriotts) thru II, but in those instances we do incur the additional II fee (approx $110? for Marriott or approx $140? for non-Marriott). IF I had purchased mainly to occupy my unit, joining the new club makes no sense (one-time upfront join fee + recurring annual club due).

For multiple week owners who exchange through II (either to other Marriotts or not), this program is very nice in that it saves them exchange fee $$$'s.

 

[californiagirl]

How did you find the point value for SR??? All I get is a "site down" message when I click on what is my week worth. Never mind, I found the info in the pdf file. Thank you for the link.

 

[winger]

How did you find the point value for SR??? All I get is a "site down" message when I click on what is my week worth. Never mind, I found the info in the pdf file. Thank you for the link.

what PDF file? Yes, the site is really not working right now. It keeps redirecting me to the old/MVCI site.

 

[SueDonJ]

David, nice job, thanks.

But I'm confused. Where are you finding the value for your week? I see your points chart PDF and figured out you're looking at a 2BR for the week you're there now, for 1,950. But I can't find where you got the value for your week's ownership. Help?

 

[davidvel]

The pdf points structure file lists the cost to get a week, not the value of your week in points. At least for Shadow Ridge, the trade in value in points in more than what it takes to reserve the week (meaning some people willl not get therir trade??)

To find out your week's value you have to click ENROLL at MVCI owners site and it will tell you. PLEASE POST YOUR RESULTS HERE!!!!

 

[urple2]

Where will the inventory come from to fulfill vacation reservations within the Marriott Vacation Club Collection?Inventory throughout the Marriott Vacation Club Collection will be available for reservations for Enrolled Owners via other Marriott Vacation Club Owners who enroll their weeks and elect Vacation Club Points, and non-enrolled Owners who trade their usage for Marriott Rewards points or exchange their week through membership in Interval International.

Am i reading this correctly? they'll take the marriott inventory out of Interval to fulfill the Points reservations requirement?

 

[californiagirl]

Thanks David!

 

[davidvel]

Am i reading this correctly? they'll take the marriott inventory out of Interval to fulfill the Points reservations requirement?

wow what a can of worms......let the games (PERRYM) begin.....

 

[SueDonJ]

The pdf points structure file lists the cost to get a week, not the value of your week in points. At least for Shadow Ridge, the trade in value in points in more than what it takes to reserve the week (meaning some people willl not get therir trade??)

To find out your week's value you have to click ENROLL at MVCI owners site and it will tell you. PLEASE POST YOUR RESULTS HERE!!!!

Excellent, thanks!

 

[brigechols]

Grande Vista, Platinum Season, 3 BR, 3725 points assigned to owner; following points needed to reserve same size unit for a week using points (depends on requested time frame): 2500, 3400, 3900, 4225, 4775

Ko Olina, Platinum Season, 2 BR Penthouse Island View, 4025 points assigned to owner; following points need to reserve same size unit for a week using points (depends on requested time frame): 4050, 4575, 4800, 5550 for platinum plus

 

[urple2]

wow what a can of worms......let the games (PERRYM) begin.....

This almost seems to make it a mandatory purchase if you want the opportunity to stay at other marriotts...

Wonder who did this negotiating with Interval on this one... or maybe they are getting ready to buy them like Wyndham did RCI.

 

[californiagirl]

The value of my weeks are as follows:

DSV II (Gold) 2150

Maui Ocean Club 4725

Frenchman's Cove (Silver) 2200

Not sure why they list our FC week since on the announcement website it states that FC is excluded.

At first glance it looks very similar to DVC. Marriott just added a zero to the point amounts needed per night.

 

[VacationPro]

Manor Club Platinum 2375 (Original Section,2BR)
Newport Coast Platinum 3475

 

[dougp26364]

What if an owner owns 2 developer weeks - where one 2011 week is reserved at his home resort, and the second 2011 week has already been reserved at his home resort BUT that week has been deposited with II (for a pending, deposit-first request) ?

Is Marriott going to allow the conversion of both of the owner's units by the 12/31/2010 posted deadline (I assume the deadline is for the special introductory enrollment rates of $595 and $695 for single and multiple weeks being converted)?

**********
BTW, from what I have read, since we purchased our Marriott ownership mainly to trade/exchange, I think this new system would work out for us since the annual club fee ($165 now) covers the conversion to MRP fee, II membership, unit-split option, and internal Marriott-to-Marriott exchanges (which II now charges like $110?). It seems we can continue trading (even to other Marriotts) thru II, but in those instances we do incur the additional II fee (approx $110? for Marriott or approx $140? for non-Marriott). IF I had purchased mainly to occupy my unit, joining the new club makes no sense (one-time upfront join fee + recurring annual club due).

For multiple week owners who exchange through II (either to other Marriotts or not), this program is very nice in that it saves them exchange fee $$$'s.

The weeks you've deposited with Interval will continue exactly as they are now. They will remain deposited with Interval.

I have a reservation for Grand Chateau in the two bedroom master suite but, I've deposited the one bedroom LO with Interval. I don't know if Marriott would allow us to convert our reserved master suite or not. I assume they probably would. In our case, it doesn't matter since we want to use that week. However, the week we've given to Interval is owned by Interval. I don't see getting that week back.

So the question I'll have for them is, what if I want to use my master suite but internal exchange my LO unit. Do I have to put the entire thing into the points program then reserve my home unit through the points program or, can I reserve the master suite and deposit the studio unit as points.

Another question I'll have is, If I join the program and pay the one fee of $165, if I elect to use my master suite but exchange the studio unit (assuming the studio can't be converted to points), will I need a personal account with Interval or, will the corporate account Marriott includes in their annual fee cover exchanging the studio week through Interval, understanding of course that I'll have to pay an I.I. exchange fee to do so.

 

[californiagirl]

David or anyone else, can you find the link for point costs for the other collections?

 

[SueDonJ]

When you all click on the "Enroll Now" button to get your point values are you directed to the "Book My Vacation" page? That's what I'm getting but the little thing just keeps on spinning with the message, "Please wait while we retrieve your information..."

Grrrrr.

 

[brigechols]

When you all click on the "Enroll Now" button to get your point values are you directed to the "Book My Vacation" page? That's what I'm getting but the little thing just keeps on spinning with the message, "Please wait while we retrieve your information..."

Grrrrr.

No, the next page is entitled "Exchange Program Enrollment" and on that page, place a tick mark in the "I understand" box and select the "Start Enrolling Now" link

 

[Bruyerebrit]

The pdf points structure file lists the cost to get a week, not the value of your week in points. At least for Shadow Ridge, the trade in value in points in more than what it takes to reserve the week (meaning some people willl not get therir trade??)

To find out your week's value you have to click ENROLL at MVCI owners site and it will tell you. PLEASE POST YOUR RESULTS HERE!!!!

Thanks David - this is a real minefield. My interests:

Shadow Ridge Enclaves Platinum: 3,025
Shadow Ridge Villages Silver: 1,825

My first reaction - an INCREDIBLY small difference and some unintentional arbitrage, since I paid relative peanuts for the Silver on EBay and paid through the proverbial nose for Enclaves Platinum (pre-TUG ). I'm sure many of us are in the same boat and will analyze this ad nauseum...boy, I haven't wanted to stay up all night and study since...I don't know when!

 

[SueDonJ]

Grande Vista, Platinum Season, 3 BR, 3725 points assigned to owner; following points needed to reserve same size unit for a week using points (depends on requested time frame): 2500, 3400, 3900, 4225, 4775

Ko Olina, Platinum Season, 2 BR Penthouse Island View, 4025 points assigned to owner; following points need to reserve same size unit for a week using points (depends on requested time frame): 4050, 4575, 4800, 5550 for platinum plus

Wow. Am I reading this right? At Grande Vista the points for your Platinum week don't get you into more than half of the calendar? And at Ko Olina your points value don't get you the same room at all??? That makes no sense.

 

[DanCali]

or exchange their week through membership in Interval International

Am i reading this correctly? they'll take the marriott inventory out of Interval to fulfill the Points reservations requirement?

This may refer to people depositing through Marriott rather than through Interval. Of course, it's vague enough so that we may never actually know...

Newport Coast Platinum 3475

Thanks - I've seen enough. For the life of me, I can't see why any NCV Platinum would want to convert. I'll use or rent for now...

 

[urple2]

No, the next page is entitled "Exchange Program Enrollment" and on that page, place a tick mark in the "I understand" box and select the "Start Enrolling Now" link

Aah..got it thanks!

Summit Watch Gold. 2150

 

[dougp26364]

So now I'm a little confused by the Ocean Pointe points chart. We own Silver season but, there appear to be multiple points allocations depending on the week you choose for different weeks in what is now Silver season. I wonder if this means some owners will be screwed since none of us had a choice of what week we were assigned when we purchased.

We own a 3 bedroom silver season ocean front unit.If our deeded week happens to fall in Sept, then it's only worth 2,900 points. However, Oct weeks are worth 4,000 points and Nov. to Dec. 20th weeks are worth 5,900 points. So, do you get screwed if you got assigned a bum week way back when Marriott wasn't even thinking about points? I guess I better take a quick look to see what week we were deeded.

I see the same issue with Grand Chateau. Grand Chateau was sold as all platinum weeks with one platinum plus week, yet there are THREE different point values depending on your dates of travel. Which one will we get? Is this a cruel joke played upon those who bought under the old system when Marriott told us it didnt' matter what week was on our deed? Right now I'm not liking the fact they have multiple point valuations yet, when we originally purchased, we weren't given a choice of what week we were assigned. If owners are going to find themselves with different point valuations, then I guess some of us won the lottery and some of us lost, yet we never even knew we were playing or even had a choice.

 

[SueDonJ]

No, the next page is entitled "Exchange Program Enrollment" and on that page, place a tick mark in the "I understand" box and select the "Start Enrolling Now" link

Maybe they're rolling it out in stages and they figure us east coast people should be IN BED SLEEPING right now. :hysterical: They're probably right - geesh it's late. Five more minutes, that's all, and I'll look at this in the morning.

 

[scrapngen]

This is just a very quick look, but here's what I see so far:

Waiohai fixed 51 island view: 4225 points
Waiohai fixed 52 island view: 5175 points
Total 9400 pts which I guess would fit the Premier for 13 month reservations of 7 or more days.

Then I was able to download the Points-charts.pdf file - looked at how many points those same weeks with same view would cost someone to reserve with points for 2011, 2012. Very disturbing as the answer is 5075 and 5550 points respectively. So my point value is less than the point chart??
So why again would I want to pay extra when my points won't even be enough to get the same 14 days??? At first view this doesn't look good for my prime HI fixed weeks....:annoyed:

Just wanted to some specific info out there for you folks to compile. Will continue to investigate...

 

[DanCali]

So now I'm a little confused by the Ocean Pointe points chart. We own Silver season but, there appear to be multiple points allocations depending on the week you choose for different weeks in what is now Silver season. I wonder if this means some owners will be screwed since none of us had a choice of what week we were assigned when we purchased.

We own a 3 bedroom silver season ocean front unit.If our deeded week happens to fall in Sept, then it's only worth 2,900 points. However, Oct weeks are worth 4,000 points and Nov. to Dec. 20th weeks are worth 5,900 points. So, do you get screwed if you got assigned a bum week way back when Marriott wasn't even thinking about points? I guess I better take a quick look to see what week we were deeded.

These are the points to book into the resort, no? Your allocated points will be some average of the season. It looks like NCV Platinum got more than enough to book mid September to mid-December, but not enough for any summer week.

Frankly, the way I see it, this program is for some Hawaii owners who want to vacation outside of Hawaii (well, why did they buy Hawaii then?) and people who bought high season but use in off peak weeks... Everyone else is worse off because they can't get the peak weeks in their own season, or trade to similar size units in peak times elsewhere. As an initial reaction, I'd call it a flop from my perspective. I'll let others speak for themselves.