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Marriott Destination Points...They have done it!!!!!! {Merged}

mas

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...Marriott can not sell points in perpetuity. There are only a certain number of points in the new trust (about 40 million)...

Do you mind if I ask how you came up with the 40 million points figure?
 

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Two positives with the RCI connection - two potential negatives. First the RCI option is a good one. It creates one additional option for exchange that most Marriott owners aren't lucky enough to have. Because of that relatively low amount of deposits they carry a high exchange value (big demand, low supply in that system). Second RCI will accept ONLY what you own for deposit. No games of substituting a similar week. You get to deposit exactly what you purchased/owned. Ask Wastegate owners how important THAT is. Wastegate also went down the path of substituting lesser weeks for deposit to II rather than the deeded time actually due to the owner. It is so sad to Marriott now sinking to that lowlife action.

The downsides have to be considered as well. You pay to be an RCI member (not so bad if you have other weeks in RCI as one fee covers them all) but you can drop your II fees so that makes up for a good portion of that fee. Plus there is the extremely member unfriendly court finding that allows RCI to rent owner deposits for TRADE to be redirected to rentals after a very short window of trade only being allowed. That has really ruined the RCI Weeks system as a long term option unless you don't mind that the best times may be siphoned off to rentals after only 30 days. Move quickly if you use RCI to get the best trades - wait a few days to claim a trade & it may be gone to rental.

Overall, for now, RCI may be the superior choice for those Marriott resorts that can be used there.

Just wondering if any Marriott owners has used RCI points? I've (Marriott Cypress owner, no other RCI affiliation) never converted a week to RCI points but it is my understanding you can do so.. seems a very similar process to MVCD legacy weeks.
 

detjason

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No one knows how II inventory will be affected, not even that sales person you spoke with. So they didn't really confirm anything. They just wanted to create the sense of fear. A great selling tool. The ride will likely still continue for many years to come.

As I said before, Hawaii will still be doable in the future just as it is today.

First you say that no one knows how II inventory will be effected, then you say Hawaii will still be doable as it always has? We are all speculating, including you and me.

Other than that contradiction, I appreciate the rest of your reply was informative. Thanks.
 

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If NOBODY joins and/or nobody who joins elects points, nothing will happen to II.

I wish they wouldnt join, but they will. Do you really think that these sales tactics arent effective? They worked the first time didnt they?

By enrolling one of my weeks and keeping two weeks out of the program, I will have access to both programs. It will cost a bit more to have two II memberships, but it will give me access to both inventories.
 

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I own three weeks.
The question I have relates to the fact that Cypress Harbour and Sunset pointe also are RCI properties. I am not sure if any of the others are. I am trying to figure out whether people have had luck trading these properties with RCI and did you get good value for it. I was curious if the individual properties can make a decision to join RCI also and then it might get interesting.

RCI is a joke. Remember, there are no Marriott properties in RCI available to trade into. I have had high-end Hawaii weeks with RCI, but now only have a cheap ($350 miant fee) 2BR on the East coast. I use it as a throwaway or give it to friends and family as gifts. For example, I stay in a Marriott and the in-laws stay in an RCI exchange. The resorts are mediocre with very few that are equivalent to Marriott.
 
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