Kobe Bryant

[LannyPC]

Very sad losing husband and daughter

And for the other three kids, very sad losing a sister and father at the same time.

 

[Passepartout]

Y'know, I am a pilot and love to fly, but you can't willingly get me on a helicopter. Sympathy to family, friends, fans, and loved ones. May those lost R.I.P.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Police criticized TMZ for reporting Kobe Bryant's death before they could notify victim families.

Police criticized TMZ for reporting Kobe Bryant's death before they could notify victims' families

TMZ was the first to report the shocking news that basketball icon Bryant had died, but authorities slammed the quick scoop.

www.insider.com

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Richard

 

[MULTIZ321]

Kobe Bryant leaves behind a business empire that stretched beyond the basketball court.

Kobe Bryant leaves behind a business empire that stretched beyond the basketball court

Kobe Bryant's legacy extends beyond his time on the basketball court. He was also known to the business world as a brand-builder; an investor; and a coach to other athletes and company founders.

edition.cnn.com

Richard

 

[Talent312]

Very sad.
As SNA27 implies, many people, including families, die needlessly in crashes of aircraft and earth-bound craft everyday as result of mechanical failure, their own negligence or.the negligence of others. This tragedy is important becuz of who was involved, but there are countless others who leave behind surviving loved-ones for whom it is just as real. Let's try to keep this in perspective.
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[MULTIZ321]

Kobe Bryant's helicopter was flying dangerously low before fatal crash.

Kobe Bryant’s helicopter pilot was flying too low before fatal crash

The pilot of Kobe Bryant’s helicopter was warned he was flying too low for so-called “flight following” – meaning the chopper could not be picked up by radar to receive guidance f…

pagesix.com

Richard

 

[MULTIZ321]

Helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant made climbing turn before rapid dive.

Source: Kobe copter in climb before rapid dive

The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant that crashed Sunday was in a climbing turn at about 2,400 feet before it turned into a dive, a source told ESPN. According to flight-tracking data, the copter was in a 4,000-feet-per-minute descent when it crashed.

www.espn.com

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Richard

 

[SteelerGal]

3 families lost loved ones. Truly a sad day.

 

[am1]

Please keep in mind that ~151,600 people died today. I am willing to bet hundreds or even thousands were missed more and more worthy of lamentation. We just didn't know about them. A sobering thought.

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I agree but its not a competition.

 

[Grammarhero]

Please keep in mind that ~151,600 people died today. I am willing to bet hundreds or even thousands were missed more and more worthy of lamentation. We just didn't know about them. A sobering thought.

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In recent years, Kobe championed women’s basketball, girl youth basketball groups, and non-rap artistic pursuits for the African-American community - all under recognized and under supported communities. He died going to his camp for mostly girl youth basketball groups. Two weeks ago, he pushed the idea that three great female basketball players could play in the NBA

I respectfully disagree. Of 151.6k people, probably only dozens more worthy of lamentation.

 

[WVBaker]

I respectfully disagree. Of 151.6k people, probably only dozens more worthy of lamentation.

I would need to respectfully disagree. Worthiness doesn't have prerequisites.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Details of Kobe's helicopter crash emerge.

Details of Kobe's helicopter crash emerge

Famed LA Laker shooting guard Kobe Bryant died along with eight others in a helicopter crash Sunday morning. The shocking incident has fans reeling—and trying to figure out what went wrong am…

boingboing.net

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Richard

 

[Rolltydr]

Can we please refrain from dragging this thread down? Nine people died, including kids. It is a horrible, unspeakable tragedy! One of those people was known worldwide. Of course, he is going to be the main focus of news reports and social media posts. Because everybody knew him or knew of him. That doesn’t mean the other 8 will not be missed or mourned by those who knew them. It just means one was more famous. All deserve respect and all those who are mourning them deserve respect. It isn’t a competition. I’m 65 years old now but I still remember my mother and grandmother teaching me not to speak ill of the dead. I understand if you didn’t like Kobe as a basketball player, or even as the person you perceived him to be. But, please, hold your thoughts for a few days and let those who are mourning him to do so in peace. Thank you.


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[MULTIZ321]

Kobe Bryant's helicopter pilot was given a. 'special clearance to fly at or below 2,500 feet in dangerous
weather conditions' relying only on his eyesigllt: rather than instrument:s to fly before crashing.

Chopper carrying Kobe and 8 others circled over Burbank for 15 minutes

Kobe Bryant's helicopter pilot was given a special clearance to fly under foggy conditions considered dangerous enough that local police agencies grounded their choppers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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Richard

 

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Ara Zobayan: 5 Things To Know About The Pilot Who Tragically Died in Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash.

Ara Zobayan: 5 Things To Know About The Pilot Who Tragically Died In Kobe Bryant Helicopter Crash

The man who was flying Kobe Bryant’s helicopter when it tragically crashed has been identified as Ara Zobayan. Sadly, he also died in the horrific accident.

hollywoodlife.com

Richard

 

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Kobe Bryant will be mourned for a whole week in Italy, the country where he grew up.

Kobe Bryant will be mourned for a whole week in Italy, the country where he grew up | CNN

The Italian basketball federation announced that every professional team in all levels of basketball will pay homage to Kobe with a moment of silence in every game for a week.

www.cnn.com

Richard

 

[Carol C]

In recent years, Kobe championed women’s basketball, girl youth basketball groups, and non-rap artistic pursuits for the African-American community - all under recognized and under supported communities. He died going to his camp for mostly girl youth basketball groups. Two weeks ago, he pushed the idea that three great female basketball players could play in the NBA

I respectfully disagree. Of 151.6k people, probably only dozens more worthy of lamentation.

I agree that Kobe Bryant leaves a great legacy on and off the court. I am sorry to hear that folks are debating something that was settled out of court and resulted in Kobe apologizing. I am female, and in my day when I was pretty, I had a few "Me Too" moments (not anything I considered physical assault, mind you... but still, it was demoralizing). I was young and quit my good-paying job to soon get another. (It was the movie industry, and there was a culture called the "casting couch"...and I never laid there.)

I don't judge Kobe's accuser, or any current or former "MeToo" activists; frankly, it's a "free country", and folks are free to speak their minds (more or less, depending on rules and regs of online forums...but I digress.) At risk of getting deleted or helping this thread/topic to go downhill, which is not my intent...I see all sides on this issue. I wasn't in that hotel room years ago. I am tall and dated basketball players and love the game (and baseball too). I loved watching Kobe Bryant play.

I do not think folks should disrespect this man's legacy when he's not even dead 24 hours (well, maybe it is a full day now). It just makes me very sad, in these divisive times, that we cannot find just a bit of unity in saluting the legacy of a great sports figure who inspired so many kids...and adults. I also mourn his daughter's untimely death along with their friends and colleagues on that helicopter. As Alicia Keys said last night on the Grammys, "here we are gathered in the house that Kobe built". She was referring to the Staples Center! Think about that, everyone, the improvements that Kobe Bryant brought to the Lakers and L.A. and the bigger picture. But if you don't like Alicia Keys, maybe you might disagree even on that. (Read her bio, she's an inspiring celebrity who gives lots of $ to charities, has her own charity, etc...she GIVES BACK and we all should, if we have fame, $ or privilege). I will change the subject to the following, my original reason for my posting here again...until I saw the hotel incident being debated (and yes, this hotel incident "debate" is also being hashed out on "social" and mainstream media)...anyway, here's what may have led to the crash in L.A.:

HELICOPTER DEATHS...yet again! Carol C wonders...Where have I heard that before? Maybe I should have posted this breaking news in the Hawaii helicopter crash thread somewhere on TUG. NYT has this headline in breaking news:

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BREAKING NEWS

The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant and eight others got special approval to fly even though the foggy weather conditions were below usual standards.

 

[WinniWoman]

Y'know, I am a pilot and love to fly, but you can't willingly get me on a helicopter. Sympathy to family, friends, fans, and loved ones. May those lost R.I.P.

I would never go on one. Was always afraid of them.

 

[Grammarhero]

I agree that Kobe Bryant leaves a great legacy on and off the court. I am sorry to hear that folks are debating something that was settled out of court and resulted in Kobe apologizing. I am female and in my day when I was pretty, I had a few "Me Too" moments (not rape thankfully, but still, it was demoralizing). I was young and quit my good-paying job to soon get another. I don't judge Kobe's accuser, or any current or former "MeToo" activists; frankly, it's a free country and folks are free to speak their minds (more or less, depending on rules and regs of online forums...but I digress.) At risk of getting deleted or whatever...I see all sides on this issue, and btw I am tall and dated basketball players and love the game (and baseball). I do not think folks should disrespect this man's legacy when he's not even dead 24 hours (well, maybe it is a full day now). It just makes me very sad, in these divisive times, that we cannot find just a bit of unity in saluting the legacy of a great sports figure who inspired so many kids...and adults. I also mourn his daughter's untimely death along with their friends and colleagues on that helicopter. As Alicia Keys said last night on the Grammys, "here we are gathered in the house that Kobe built". Think about that, everyone, but if you don't like Alicia Keys maybe you might disagree even on that. (Read her bio, she's an inspiring celebrity who gives lots of $ to charities, has her own charity, etc...she GIVES BACK and we all should, if we have fame, $ or privilege). I will change subject to the following, my reason for this posting until I saw the "hotel incident" being debated (and yes this is also being done on mainstream media)...anyway, here's what may have led to the crash in L.A.:

HELICOPTER DEATHS...yet again! Carol C wonders...Where have I heard that before? Maybe I should have posted this breaking news in the Hawaii helicopter crash thread somewhere on TUG. NYT has this headline in breaking news:

BREAKING NEWS

The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant and eight others got special approval to fly even though the foggy weather conditions were below usual standards.

Sorry that you had to go through sexual harassment.

 

[Grammarhero]

@Carol C
Just two weeks ago when Kobe said three woman could play in NBA. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/22/sport/kobe-bryant-women-nba-spt-intl/index.html

 

[WVBaker]

There's no doubt that the pilot was more than qualified to fly the Sikorsky S76B and also fly in the conditions present at the time. This may however, tragically turn out to be an error
in judgment. Many are in no position to question his decision, but there are some who have raised valid points.


"Considering even the LAPD's own fleet had been grounded, questions remain as to who made the decision to fly in such dangerous weather conditions. Zobayan had planned
to land at Burbank Airport. However, he circled mid-air for over 15 minutes waiting for clearance to begin the descent."

"After instructions from the controller, the helicopter climbed to 2,000 ft and then hit the mountain at 1,700 ft. Speaking to the New York Post, sources said Zobayan was in
charge of the helicopter when it hit the ground. Several observers pointed out the crash was most likely a result of him being disoriented rather than mechanical failure."

“When you get in the soup, your senses don’t work," said Paul Cline, assistant professor of aviation at New York University."

"The aircraft subsequently smashed into a rugged hillside with an impact that scattered debris for almost a mile and killed everyone on board. Air traffic controllers were trying to
guide the helicopter to safety, per the audio exchange, but lost contact just moments before it crashed.

Kobe Bryant death: Pilot warned he was flying 'too low' moments before chopper crashed into hill

The chopper hit the ground at almost 190 mph and claimed the lives of the 41-year-old Los Angeles Lakers legend, his 13-year-old daughter Gianna, and seven others.

meaww.com

One issue that may be debated is that there were 9 fatalities, including the pilot. The specifications for this Sikorsky are as follows:

Sikorsky S76B
Occupancy
Crew: 2
Passengers: 6

Sikorsky S76B Specifications, Cabin Dimensions, Performance

The Sikorsky S76B produced by Sikorsky. Specs, range, speed, operating weights and performance for the Sikorsky S76B here

www.globalair.com

Would one additional person make any difference? I don't have a clue. To allow one additional passenger would be the pilot's decision I assume.

 

[easyrider]

Please keep in mind that ~151,600 people died today. I am willing to bet hundreds or even thousands were missed more and more worthy of lamentation. We just didn't know about them. A sobering thought.

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But only one Kobe passed away.

Bill

 

[Carol C]

I went in to edit because I wanted to explain a bit more fully where I am coming from. My coffee hadn't kicked in quite yet...thanks for reading.

 

[LannyPC]

Y'know, I am a pilot and love to fly, but you can't willingly get me on a helicopter.

Yeah, it does seem like we hear more reports about helicopter and small aircraft fatal crashes than we do about larger commercial airliners.

 

[Carol C]

Yeah, it does seem like we hear more reports about helicopter and small aircraft fatal crashes than we do about larger commercial airliners.

Good grief...just imagine what it will be like when Amazon starts employing drones to fly all over delivering packages! (Trying to insert just a bit of humor into a sad topic...this will be my last posting: count every day as a blessing, folks!)