Agreed! They quoted a few stats...twice as many MVC owners than Vistana owners. 45% MVC weeks owners, 55% DC trust owners....I have no real context for that last one.
Are you going to keep them in separate pots, or are you going to be tempted to enroll Vistana into DP.
Our Vistana ownership are already qualified so no additional enrollment would be needed. We intend to continue to use SOs and II to trade, unless we have a need for more DC points to book a specific DC reservation.
Just finished a presentation at MVC San Diego Pulse. For reference I own direct-purchased Sheraton Flex, 3* and don't own any MVC. Here is the information I took away from the presentation ... please don't shoot the messenger...
Things we've already heard:
-Launch planned for early half of July...maybe July 1st but could be later
-Vistana ownership (see below about resales) will be allowed to enroll in DC for no fee and elect DP in a given year if they wish.
-If a Vistana owner decides not to enroll in DC they will pay the new all-inclusive VSN club fees based upon elite levels we've seen mentioned here (if they are VSN eligible) and function only in the VSN system
-If a Vistana owner decides to enroll in DC, they will instead pay all-inclusive MVC club fees (same rates as VSN) based upon elite levels and have their online account moved to MVC (and MVC's corporate II account too, I'm guessing)
-Vistana elite 3* 4* 5* levels will track to Executive, Presidential and Chairman if ownership enrolled in DC
-Enrolled Vistana owners will elect to convert to DP for following year by September/October of current year, same as MVC enrolled weeks owners
Yep, confusing for sure but in one of the posts here or in the same thread in the MVC forum they said that Vistana enrolled ownership would have a Marriott account that would show a Vistana bucket separate from any elected DPs or Marriott ownership. It's been my theory all along that they are moving the VSN to Marriott's IT platform so even if you log in through vistana.com, you would still end up in the back end of Marriott IT platform where all SO exchanges would take place. To me this explains the reissuance of existing reservations with new numbers and the various outages of both systems along with the subsequent upgrades.
a$10000 purchase of one of the flex products
It will likely be less $ if you requalify before the rollout, with a $10000 Westin Flex purchase
2600 for a 2 bedroom non lockoff sheraton vistana resort.
I have three 2bedroom Plat units with some vistana sheraton and some vistana flex options, which was what we bought to retro everything. We wound up with over 700K options when it was all said and done. I was kind of surprised by the fact that my sales person admitted that she does the very same thing and was impressed with what I've done without ever buying a retail week from them. As far as the conversion amounts, I should have taken a picture, but I was generally pleased and trusted what they were telling me so I didn't feel compelled to do so. It shouldn't be a surprise that the vistana sheraton is not going to convert well, flex options were better, but the Lagunamar was around 5,250 - 5,500 points if my memory serves me correct. I was going to have just under 25,000 points if I traded everything. They made a quick attempt to get me to round it up to 25,000 and I said no of course.
This was on our printout. I did not include multiple weeks as they are the same.
| MVC Points | |||
| 2600 | SVR | EY | |
| 4050 | WKV-Platinum | EY | |
| 3100 | WKORVN | eoy-odd | IV |
| 3100 | WKORVN | eoy-even | OV |
| 3150 | WMH-Platinum | EY | |
that is correct
At our presentation, I was told our WDW-Platinum EY (148,100) would convert to 3,725 MVC Points. I could understand WKV might convert at a bit higher value but why would WMH convert to only 3,150 (15% less) ?
It was always mentioned as late second quarter. Now we are seeing mention of July which is third quarter.
Probably because the original developer pricing for WMH was lower than WDW.
