[Closed - new thread started] Will Hawaii Open by [OCTOBER???] [Please use this thread for all Hawaii Coronavirus discussions]

[luv_maui]

By utilize does Aslaka mean flight actually flown or just Booked?

Just book any flight by end of 2020, for any flight up to about 330 days in advance thru about November 2021. If you have plans thru about late June 2021, and already have Alaska airline credit to use up, book before 7/31/2020 and you can later cancel without change fees or change dates

 

[DannyTS]

It seems they will keep Hawaii closed until at least October 1st. I am confused though, it should probably say "should welcome visitors after October 1st"


"It appears the final word by Governor Ige will be a decision over life and death for many unknown residents. Lt. Governor Green together with all 4 mayors agree the State should not welcome visitors after October 1. "

Hawaii Governor Ige to make a life or death decision - Hawaii News Online

Hawaii News : Local with a global view with a focus on the Hawaii Travel and Tourism world.

hawaiinews.online

 

[luv_maui]

Looks like time to cancel my September trip

 

[amy241]

It seems they will keep Hawaii closed until at least October 1st. I am confused though, it should probably say "should welcome visitors after October 1st"


"It appears the final word by Governor Ige will be a decision over life and death for many unknown residents. Lt. Governor Green together with all 4 mayors agree the State should not welcome visitors after October 1. "

Hawaii Governor Ige to make a life or death decision - Hawaii News Online

Hawaii News : Local with a global view with a focus on the Hawaii Travel and Tourism world.

hawaiinews.online

This looks to be someone’s opinion.

 

[DannyTS]

This looks to be someone’s opinion.

LG says governor will postpone Aug. 1 date to reopen tourism

HONOLULU (KHON2) — Lieutenant Governor Josh Green says the governor will likely delay the reopening of tourism, which is currently scheduled for August 1. Although the governor has yet to mak…

www.khon2.com

I agree, just that the Lt Governor Green said more or less the same 2 days ago.
Edited to add: also the mayors hinted they are no longer comfortable with August 1st.

August becomes October, October becomes December. In October the number of new cases will not be zero and there will always be another hot spot in the US and elsewhere, the virus is not going away. If they do not open in August, a lot of Hawaiians will be very upset. Just few days ago the governor said he was expecting an increase in cases because they opened the inter island travel and some local businesses but he thought it would be manageable and the plan to reopen was going on. The protests have probably played a role, this is IMO why Oahu is more affected than other islands. Are the 25 new cases in Oahu not manageable? Was he expecting 15? Nobody knows, they are as vague as a shadow. Probably there are investors that are licking their lips, some real estate deals are going to be very interesting if Hawaii continues on this path for much longer.

 

[Theiggy]

Looks like time to cancel my September trip

Or just stay till then?


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[amycurl]

That was my thought too, @Theiggy! @luv_maui should just pick up the handful of weeks he needs to bridge the trips!

 

[DavidnRobin]

This looks to be someone’s opinion.

Opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge; it requires no accountability, no understanding.


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[DannyTS]

"The highest form of knowledge… is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another’s world. It requires profound purpose larger than the self kind of understanding."

 

[luv_maui]

Too many signs (your own mayors & LT. governor pushing for 10/1, upsurge in cases on mainland, shortage of testing supplies and needed in hot spots thus I see no completion in near-term for partnership with CVS for vacationers getting a covid-19 test with it’s reason to go to Hawaii let alone issues with test results back in time before one boards the plane) leaning towards Governor switching gears and adjusting to the current situation, by extending the opening date To 10/1 or even indefinitely. I’m personally not upset at the Governor or the state of Hawaii, I think they should do what they believe is best For the state and its people Under the circumstances. I also feel bad for those wanting to come to Hawaii with no clarity but this is a pandemic. Just overall tough situation.

 

[Tamaradarann]

Too many signs (your own mayors & LT. governor pushing for 10/1, upsurge in cases on mainland, shortage of testing supplies and needed in hot spots thus I see no completion in near-term for partnership with CVS for vacationers getting a covid-19 test with it’s reason to go to Hawaii let alone issues with test results back in time before one boards the plane) leaning towards Governor switching gears and adjusting to the current situation, by extending the opening date To 10/1 or even indefinitely. I’m personally not upset at the Governor or the state of Hawaii, I think they should do what they believe is best For the state and its people Under the circumstances. I also feel bad for those wanting to come to Hawaii with no clarity but this is a pandemic. Just overall tough situation.

I don't disagree with what you have said here, however, where did you see the 10/1 that the Lt. Governor and Mayors have been pushing for? By the way I just sent e-mails to Governor Ige, Lt. Governor Green, and my Mayor Caldwell on what Hawaii needs to do to prepare for the in rush of many tourists. The e-mail was a summary of my the thoughts that I expressed on the TUG HGVC Thread "Hawaii on for Aug 1"

 

[luv_maui]

I don't disagree with what you have said here, however, where did you see the 10/1 that the Lt. Governor and Mayors have been pushing for? By the way I just sent e-mails to Governor Ige, Lt. Governor Green, and my Mayor Caldwell on what Hawaii needs to do to prepare for the in rush of many tourists. The e-mail was a summary of my the thoughts that I expressed on the TUG HGVC Thread "Hawaii on for Aug 1"

LG says governor will postpone Aug. 1 date to reopen tourism

HONOLULU (KHON2) — Lieutenant Governor Josh Green says the governor will likely delay the reopening of tourism, which is currently scheduled for August 1. Although the governor has yet to mak…

www.khon2.com

 

[luv_maui]

Hawaii Governor Ige to make a life or death decision - Hawaii News Online

Hawaii News : Local with a global view with a focus on the Hawaii Travel and Tourism world.

hawaiinews.online

see about 2nd or 3rd paragraph about 10/1 date sought by 4 mayors and LT Governor, although a typo in the sentence

 

[luv_maui]

Nothing official, at least yet, but an additional announcement should be forthcoming soon (?) since currently the 8/1 date coming up with currently negative COVID-19 test can avoid 14 day quarantine is still in place.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Yep, Denise, I was going to post this very article. So much for our trip 8/21-9/4. I guess we are going somewhere else at the end of August.

 

[amy241]

Ige delays plan to reopen tourism until Sept. 1 amid COVID-19 surge on the mainland

“This was not an easy decision to make. It really was a choice between two difficult options."

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

Hawaii will not be opening on Aug 1st. Ige states that reopening will be “delayed by at least 1 month.” Back to square one with no plan for reopening the state.

 

[DannyTS]

I think the reservation system for hotels and flights should change. Instead of fixed dates, it should be like "a week after the islands reopen", "3 months and 5 days after the islands reopen". The dates in the calendar are meaningless

 

[Tamaradarann]

Yep, Denise, I was going to post this very article. So much for our trip 8/21-9/4. I guess we are going somewhere else at the end of August.

We were first scheduled to go the Honolulu in September, then we moved it back to November, now with this news and the amount of virus spreading in many states we are probably going to scrap the winter of 2020/21 and hope for the fall of 2021. We are over 70 with some hypertension as well as repiratory problems so we feel that staying safe in our private house with cars right outside in the woods where we don't need to be near anyone when we go outside, no elevators, no public transportation is our safe and comfortable place.

 

[Tamaradarann]

Ige delays plan to reopen tourism until Sept. 1 amid COVID-19 surge on the mainland

“This was not an easy decision to make. It really was a choice between two difficult options."

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

Hawaii will not be opening on Aug 1st. Ige states that reopening will be “delayed by at least 1 month.” Back to square one with no plan for reopening the state.

We were first scheduled to go the Honolulu in September, then we moved it back to November, now with this news and the amount of virus spreading in many states we are probably going to scrap the winter of 2020/21 and hope for the fall of 2021. We are over 70 with some hypertension as well as repiratory problems so we feel that staying safe in our private house with cars right outside in the woods where we don't need to be near anyone when we go outside, no elevators, no public transportation is our safe and comfortable place.

 

[slip]

This is the first announcement I have paid attention to since I returned from Molokai. Now that I am back to work we listen to the announcements daily. He hasn’t changed his delivery, he is still vague with answers. I think we may be lucky if it’s October now.

 

[csodjd]

The pressure on the Governor will not lessen with time, it will increase. Waiting until Sept. 1 may be reasonable, given what's happening both in Hawaii and on the mainland, and the difficult caused by necessary lead times. Aug. 1 is right around the corner. It's clear that it will not even be possible to get the required testing done quickly enough given all the people needing tests right now. So he needs to wait until things settle down, both from a safety stand point and just pragmatically. A 72-hour window means nothing if nobody gets tests results that fast. Even if he said it would be open on Saturday to anyone with a negative test within 72 hours of departure, almost nobody would be able to go!

Hawaii does need to ensure that its residents are complying well and that they have community spread stomped down. And they need to know that people will be ABLE to get a test result fast enough. At the same time, those hotels and restaurants and golf courses and tour companies can't remain shut down indefinitely. It costs just as much to keep a golf course operating for 20 players as it does for 200. But the later is profitable and the former leads to bankruptcy.

 

[Ken555]

Here we go... back to the economic necessity of reopening. We all know these arguments. Give it a rest.


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[DavidnRobin]

Ige delays plan to reopen tourism until Sept. 1 amid COVID-19 surge on the mainland

“This was not an easy decision to make. It really was a choice between two difficult options."

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

Looks like I am going to cancel our Sept19-Oct3 WKORV stay. Hurts losing our OFD status with converting them to unrestricted SOs. With our STJ cancellation in June - that creates a lot of very expensive SOs (that just become like all others) to use by end of 2022.

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[slip]

Here we go... back to the economic necessity of reopening. We all know these arguments. Give it a rest.


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Why can’t post his opinion?

 

[Ken555]

Why can’t post his opinion?

Of course he can. I just think it’s superfluous. It’s been mentioned countless times already. What’s the point? We all know it.


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