[Closed - new thread started] Will Hawaii Open by [OCTOBER???] [Please use this thread for all Hawaii Coronavirus discussions]

[Ralph Sir Edward]

Mainlanders, not Amercans. Hawaii residents are Americans, too.

 

[1Kflyerguy]

According to the this article at least, it seems people are not rushing to book trips to Hawaii. The premise is that lack of clarity about the testing process is causing confusion...

Lack of clear vision for pre-arrival testing program is hindering Hawaii’s tourism reopening | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

The clock is already ticking on the 30-day countdown to reopen Hawaii to visitors, but so far there’s not a playbook in sight.

www.staradvertiser.com

I am sure this is a complicated thing to workout, without much precedent to draw on. But have been surprised how slow the state seems to moving on this, and how mixed their messages have been.

 

[csodjd]

According to the this article at least, it seems people are not rushing to book trips to Hawaii. The premise is that lack of clarity about the testing process is causing confusion...

Lack of clear vision for pre-arrival testing program is hindering Hawaii’s tourism reopening | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

The clock is already ticking on the 30-day countdown to reopen Hawaii to visitors, but so far there’s not a playbook in sight.

www.staradvertiser.com

I am sure this is a complicated thing to workout, without much precedent to draw on. But have been surprised how slow the state seems to moving on this, and how mixed their messages have been.

It's being very aggressive, or risk-taking, to plan to be on the first flight over on Aug 1. In the best world, there will be kinks to work out.

 

[TravelTime]

Ige says spike in new COVID-19 infections is manageable, but warns that could change

Ige speaks with mayors after Hawaii sees alarming spike in new COVID-19 cases

There were 41 new COVID-19 cases reported Tuesday, a record high for Hawaii.

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

 

[DavidnRobin]

Looks as if they may take my 5-day recommendation (for Covid testing prior to arrival) over a 3-day period. Looks like Gov. Ige may be reading my emails after all!

Factually - I have 10 days to decide if I will acquire yet another 176, 700 unrestricted StarOptions (for a total of 368,100 SOs) as we have Sept19-Oct3 booked at WKORV (our 1Bd OFD and 1Bd from WKV SOs). Or, take my chance on them being restricted? Or going?

What does a 14-day quarantine entail?
Can we go to store to by food?
Can we go to beach outside of WKORV/N as long as we stay to ourselves?
Or is it no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than to/from OGG - and only allowed room service?


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[Luanne]

Looks as if they may take my 5-day recommendation (for Covid testing prior to arrival) over a 3-day period. Looks like Gov. Ige may be reading my emails after all!

Factually - I have 10 days to decide if I will acquire yet another 176, 700 unrestricted StarOptions (for a total of 368,100 SOs) as we have Sept19-Oct3 booked at WKORV (our 1Bd OFD and 1Bd from WKV SOs). Or, take my chance on them being restricted? Or going?

What does a 14-day quarantine entail?
Can we go to store to by food?
Can we go to beach outside of WKORV/N as long as we stay to ourselves?
Or is it no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than to/from OGG - and only allowed room service?


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Quarantine means quarantine. No going out for any reason other than a medical emergency. @luv_maui described this in their 14 day quarantine.

 

[controller1]

Looks as if they may take my 5-day recommendation (for Covid testing prior to arrival) over a 3-day period. Looks like Gov. Ige may be reading my emails after all!

Factually - I have 10 days to decide if I will acquire yet another 176, 700 unrestricted StarOptions (for a total of 368,100 SOs) as we have Sept19-Oct3 booked at WKORV (our 1Bd OFD and 1Bd from WKV SOs). Or, take my chance on them being restricted? Or going?


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David - We're in the same decisional situation. We are scheduled to arrive WKORVN six days after you for a two-week stay.

 

[JanT]

TUGGER luv_maui went through the 14-day quarantine recently. I believe the answers to your questions are:

You go directly from the airport to your accommodations - no stops. You get to your unit and that is where you stay for 14 days - literally. You need to arrange to have food, etc. delivered to your room. No going to the beach. In the unit for 14 days straight. Room keys are being issued for one time use which means you get it to enter your unit and it won't work again if you go out and try to get back in. You have to check in with authorities every day and certify you are not sick, etc. You can look at his thread if you want more info.

What does a 14-day quarantine entail?
Can we go to store to by food?
Can we go to beach outside of WKORV/N as long as we stay to ourselves?
Or is it no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than to/from OGG - and only allowed room service?


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[Luanne]

TUGGER luv_maui went through the 14-day quarantine recently. I believe the answers to your questions are:

You go directly from the airport to your accommodations - no stops. You get to your unit and that is where you stay for 14 days - literally. You need to arrange to have food, etc. delivered to your room. No going to the beach. In the unit for 14 days straight. Room keys are being issued for one time use which means you get it to enter your unit and it won't work again if you go out and try to get back in. You have to check in with authorities every day and certify you are not sick, etc. You can look at his thread if you want more info.

In addition they weren't allowed to rent a car so they had to plan for transport to the hotel.

 

[1Kflyerguy]

Looks as if they may take my 5-day recommendation (for Covid testing prior to arrival) over a 3-day period. Looks like Gov. Ige may be reading my emails after all!

Was there some official comment or discussion from the governor about moving to a 5 day window for testing?

 

[klpca]

Was there some official comment or discussion from the governor about moving to a 5 day window for testing?

I saw a thread on TripAdvisor yesterday discussing a press conference by the governor, that was broadcast on Facebook. I'll try to find the link when I get home.

 

[luv_maui]

Looks as if they may take my 5-day recommendation (for Covid testing prior to arrival) over a 3-day period. Looks like Gov. Ige may be reading my emails after all!

Factually - I have 10 days to decide if I will acquire yet another 176, 700 unrestricted StarOptions (for a total of 368,100 SOs) as we have Sept19-Oct3 booked at WKORV (our 1Bd OFD and 1Bd from WKV SOs). Or, take my chance on them being restricted? Or going?

What does a 14-day quarantine entail?
Can we go to store to by food?
Can we go to beach outside of WKORV/N as long as we stay to ourselves?
Or is it no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than to/from OGG - and only allowed room service?


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Yes, quarantine means only your room, not even out in the hallway. Your latter comment - no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than for medical reasons. I suppose you’d have to leave the room if there was a fire alarm. Unless I had an acceptable negative COVID-19 test in hand before I got on the plane I won’t come back, based on 14 day quarantine in place. We are debating on cancelling our 10 day stay mid Sept., 3 nights hotel + 7 at WKORVN, even if weren’t quarantined, because so much is closed.

Quarantine means having groceries delivered or meals delivered. No housekeeping entire 14 days unless Westin is different than Marriott’s policy. Online Safeway didn’t deliver to Marriott for whatever reason and DoorDash had very little options. Better meal delivery food options is thru 808Pickups app, but with Higher priced items, delivery charge, tax and tip on top. We did not try 808 pickups, but had a personal delivery service pick us up groceries at Costco & Safeway. Most places allow her service to put groceries in your fridge so just waiting for you on entry yo your room/villa, but Marriott Maui (Exception) didn’t allow it. Uber might have worked from airport to resort but we packed a lot with 4 suitcases to assist with quarantine, so also used a personal driver with a town car. Good luck with your decision. Restricted options vs non-restricted, but it’s certainly unclear how much may or may not be open. I’d guess more will be open IF avoiding 14-day quarantine with negative COVID-19 really does take place but no news / details for about 2 weeks since the announcement to allow avoidance of 14 day quarantine with negative COVID-19 test. Can you really get a covid 19 test for vacation reason with limited testing available? Will you get results in time? What about that possible false positive? Lots of unanswered questions and risks. I certainly wouldn’t risk it with your valuable 14 night stay unless you are confident of getting your negative COVID-19 results in time, willing to have limited activities available and limited restaurants. A lot can change in next 2 months but online availability of interval International inventory indicates otherwise. Best of luck on your hard decision.

 

[luv_maui]

Seriously, MM1 2-br available for 8/1/20 check-in Right now, online just sitting there In II inventory. This shows how much confidence people feel about the 8/1/20 open date with negative coved-19 test.

 

[cman]

Amid US surge, Honolulu’s mayor says state’s plan to reopen tourism Aug. 1 is ‘no longer safe'

Ige: Still no decision on whether to push back plan to reopen tourism

“We’re really struggling to figure out what we do next to thaw out our economy."

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

 

[Ken555]

And...

Hawaii Labs Face Shortage Of COVID-19 Testing Supplies

A national supplier has reduced its shipments to Hawaii as it shifts focus to helping laboratories in states with more severe coronavirus outbreaks.

www.civilbeat.org

 

[cman]

It looks like all of the county mayors oppose the August 1 reopening plan.

"The mayors of Honolulu, Hawaii and Kauai counties say their islands are no longer ready to allow incoming trans-Pacific travelers to opt out of the state’s 14-day quarantine"

"If the state does decide to move forward with the Aug. 1 reopening date, Kawakami said he will ask Ige to grant Kauai a grace period to hold off on allowing tourists back to the Garden Isle. "

County Mayors To Ige: We're Not Ready To Welcome Back Tourists

With new surges of COVID-19 cases in key states and a sudden disruption in Hawaii's testing capacity, Hawaii's county mayors want the state to rethink its planned Aug. 1 tourism reopening date.

www.civilbeat.org

 

[DannyTS]

LG says governor will likely postpone Aug. 1 date to reopen tourism

LG says governor will postpone Aug. 1 date to reopen tourism

HONOLULU (KHON2) — Lieutenant Governor Josh Green says the governor will likely delay the reopening of tourism, which is currently scheduled for August 1. Although the governor has yet to mak…

www.khon2.com

 

[luv_maui]

From CNN. Daily count in hawaii with red line the 14 day moving average. Definitely increasing trend line

 

[DavidnRobin]

Yes, quarantine means only your room, not even out in the hallway. Your latter comment - no leaving villa for 14 days for any reason other than for medical reasons. I suppose you’d have to leave the room if there was a fire alarm. Unless I had an acceptable negative COVID-19 test in hand before I got on the plane I won’t come back, based on 14 day quarantine in place. We are debating on cancelling our 10 day stay mid Sept., 3 nights hotel + 7 at WKORVN, even if weren’t quarantined, because so much is closed.

Quarantine means having groceries delivered or meals delivered. No housekeeping entire 14 days unless Westin is different than Marriott’s policy. Online Safeway didn’t deliver to Marriott for whatever reason and DoorDash had very little options. Better meal delivery food options is thru 808Pickups app, but with Higher priced items, delivery charge, tax and tip on top. We did not try 808 pickups, but had a personal delivery service pick us up groceries at Costco & Safeway. Most places allow her service to put groceries in your fridge so just waiting for you on entry yo your room/villa, but Marriott Maui (Exception) didn’t allow it. Uber might have worked from airport to resort but we packed a lot with 4 suitcases to assist with quarantine, so also used a personal driver with a town car. Good luck with your decision. Restricted options vs non-restricted, but it’s certainly unclear how much may or may not be open. I’d guess more will be open IF avoiding 14-day quarantine with negative COVID-19 really does take place but no news / details for about 2 weeks since the announcement to allow avoidance of 14 day quarantine with negative COVID-19 test. Can you really get a covid 19 test for vacation reason with limited testing available? Will you get results in time? What about that possible false positive? Lots of unanswered questions and risks. I certainly wouldn’t risk it with your valuable 14 night stay unless you are confident of getting your negative COVID-19 results in time, willing to have limited activities available and limited restaurants. A lot can change in next 2 months but online availability of interval International inventory indicates otherwise. Best of luck on your hard decision.

Thanks. I couldn’t find your previous report as I only use TapaTalk.

Just found out that if we cancel our Alaska Air flight (that used a companion pass) that the pass needs to be used by end of year. That sucks.

Looks like we will be cancelling our trip. Arg!


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[Luanne]

Thanks. I couldn’t find your previous report as I only use TapaTalk.

Just found out that if we cancel our Alaska Air flight (that used a companion pass) that the pass needs to be used by end of year. That sucks.

Looks like we will be cancelling our trip. Arg!


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When I cancelled our Alaska Airlines flights to Seattle in May my companion fare was restored through the end of this year. What that means is I have to book something by then, but the flight itslef doesn't need to by made by the end of the year. And since they usually don't restore the companion fare at all if you cancel, I was happy with that.

 

[DannyTS]

25 out of the 28 new cases are in Oahu. It seems that the increase is not due to loosening the restrictions for the local businesses or to the inter-island travel. I wonder why just Oahu has such a large increase.

 

[luv_maui]

Thanks. I couldn’t find your previous report as I only use TapaTalk.

Just found out that if we cancel our Alaska Air flight (that used a companion pass) that the pass needs to be used by end of year. That sucks.

Looks like we will be cancelling our trip. Arg!


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The Alaska pass needs to be utilized but the flight can be up to about 11 months later, so basically any flight in 2021 up to about end of November

 

[jacknsara]

25 out of the 28 new cases are in Oahu. It seems that the increase is not due to loosening the restrictions for the local businesses or to the inter-island travel. I wonder why just Oahu has such a large increase.

my guess is the answer is mostly here https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/t...where-masks-were-optional.306770/post-2472451
I did a search and found the same info on several other newsy sites I recognized, so lets all thank Hawaiian Airlines as we each individually find appropriate
Jack

 

[geist1223]

The Alaska pass needs to be utilized but the flight can be up to about 11 months later, so basically any flight in 2021 up to about end of November

By utilize does Aslaka mean flight actually flown or just Booked?

 

[DannyTS]

my guess is the answer is mostly here https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/t...where-masks-were-optional.306770/post-2472451
I did a search and found the same info on several other newsy sites I recognized, so lets all thank Hawaiian Airlines as we each individually find appropriate
Jack

Oahu has had the most number of cases aside for that incident. We also do not know if the flight attendants were all from Oahu or if they came from other islands for that meeting. There must have been another important contributing factor why Honolulu is much worse than the others.