[Closed - new thread started] Will Hawaii Open by [OCTOBER???] [Please use this thread for all Hawaii Coronavirus discussions]

[YYJMSP]

I read that Hawaii is somehow partnering with CVS to get tests with faster results. I guess that might work if you have a CVS near by.

And what about for those of us who don't live in the USA???

 

[Luanne]

And what about for those of us who don't live in the USA???

Can't help you. Sorry. Do you have testing available in Canada that provides fast results?

 

[pedro47]

Question you could test negative entering the airport and someone in the airport could be positive and not know it. Thus, when you land in Hawaii after a 10 to 14 hours flights.
You could test positive what happen then. Will everyone on the plane be forced to stay in a hotel for 14 days????.

 

[Henry M.]

Here's the CVS site for COVID testing. They claim $0 cost if you have health insurance: https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing. Results come back in 2-4 days.

 

[Luanne]

Here's the CVS site for COVID testing. They claim $0 cost if you have health insurance: https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing. Results come back in 2-4 days.

This is where our friend got tested. She was told 2 to 4 days for results by email, but I think it took closer to 6 days.

 

[rickandcindy23]

This is where our friend got tested. She was told 2 to 4 days for results by email, but I think it took closer to 6 days.

This is keeping me from feeling good about going to Maui in August. We have two weeks booked. I cannot imagine going under this kind of stress. Plus, I don't think our flights are going to happen. We were supposed to fly to Maui nonstop from Denver. That flight was not full at all, and it looks like I cannot check for different seats, so I have to assume the flight is cancelled.

 

[Luanne]

This is keeping me from feeling good about going to Maui in August. We have two weeks booked. I cannot imagine going under this kind of stress. Plus, I don't think our flights are going to happen. We were supposed to fly to Maui nonstop from Denver. That flight was not full at all, and it looks like I cannot check for different seats, so I have to assume the flight is cancelled.

I wouldn't assume the flight has been cancelled. It could be that if their plan is to distance passengers they may have hit capacity.

 

[luv_maui]

Here's the CVS site for COVID testing. They claim $0 cost if you have health insurance: https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing. Results come back in 2-4 days.

I checked out this site. You have to currently complete questions to see if you qualify for a test. So until Hawaii has their official finalized agreement in place, those going to hawaii would either not qualify for the test or shouldn’t be going to hawaii

 

[Yellowfin]

This is where our friend got tested. She was told 2 to 4 days for results by email, but I think it took closer to 6 days.

Unfortunately not many people will keep their reservations not knowing if they can get their results in time. Also, a lot of tests are false positive. In a family of 5, the chance is probably higher than 50% that one of them will be a false positive so the whole family would have to stay home.

 

[Luanne]

I checked out this site. You have to currently complete questions to see if you qualify for a test. So until Hawaii has their official finalized agreement in place, those going to hawaii would either not qualify for the test or shouldn’t be going to hawaii

After reading your post I checked the site as well. It looks like they won't just test anyone unless you are showing some type of symptoms. I know that our governor keeps saying that anyone can get tested, but it may not be someplace where you can get quick results.

So, I wonder if this agreement that Hawaii is going to have with CVS is going to relax the requirements for testing.

 

[Luanne]

Unfortunately not many people will keep their reservations not knowing if they can get their results in time. Also, a lot of tests are false positive. In a family of 5, the chance is probably higher than 50% that one of them will be a false positive so the whole family would have to stay home.

It sounds like there is just too much uncertainly if you could get tested and get results in time. Personally I would be very nervous about planning a trip and putting money out upfront that might have to be cancelled at the last minute.

 

[YYJMSP]

Can't help you. Sorry. Do you have testing available in Canada that provides fast results?

Even if we did (not sure actually), would Hawaii accept test results from there? So many details for them to work out to make this actually feasible...

Not that we're going to Hawaii anytime this year now.

 

[BigDawgTUG]

I checked out this site. You have to currently complete questions to see if you qualify for a test. So until Hawaii has their official finalized agreement in place, those going to hawaii would either not qualify for the test or shouldn’t be going to hawaii

I called many of the companies offering testing in Orange County, CA (UCI, CVS, Rite Aid, Hoag and other urgent care providers). Without exception, they either require you to have symptoms in order to be tested, or they cannot guarantee results back faster than 3 days. The problem with 3 days is that the 72 hour Hawaii requirement is at the time you land. That means, you really need to be tested within two days of departure. I understand the thought to quarantine for a few days, but if you only can stay a week, what do you do if someone in your party tests positive, either actual or a false positive? What a nightmare! Further, even if you get results back before you leave, it will probably by then be too late to cancel reservations if needed. So, as much as I appreciate the effort to open back up, it does not seem to be a viable option for most.

 

[luv_maui]

After reading your post I checked the site as well. It looks like they won't just test anyone unless you are showing some type of symptoms. I know that our governor keeps saying that anyone can get tested, but it may not be someplace where you can get quick results.

So, I wonder if this agreement that Hawaii is going to have with CVS is going to relax the requirements for testing.

I would have to believe so, otherwise why develop a formal agreement? The criteria has to be a confirmed reservation flight and/or accommodations to hawaii, because otherwise you don’t currently qualify for a test. And if you did qualify for a test under current rules, you probably shouldn’t go or will probably test positive. Within 72 hrs of departure with wait time is definitely a potential issue unless the test results are truly within 1-2 days after test is taken.

 

[csodjd]

Unfortunately not many people will keep their reservations not knowing if they can get their results in time. Also, a lot of tests are false positive. In a family of 5, the chance is probably higher than 50% that one of them will be a false positive so the whole family would have to stay home.

False positives from PCR tests are not common. False negatives are more common. In that case the concern is landing in Hawaii with a fever. May be a lot of people handing out Tylenol to the family about an hour before landing!

 

[CO skier]

There is not an unlimited supply of Covid tests available. Offering people who feel well enough to travel to Hawaii, or anywhere else, the option to avoid quarantine with proof of a negative Covid test places an unnecessary demand on the limited supply for front line workers and people who may really have Covid-19. Seems like just another bureaucratic blunder.

 

[1Kflyerguy]

After reading your post I checked the site as well. It looks like they won't just test anyone unless you are showing some type of symptoms. I know that our governor keeps saying that anyone can get tested, but it may not be someplace where you can get quick results.

So, I wonder if this agreement that Hawaii is going to have with CVS is going to relax the requirements for testing.

In my country the testing is free, but think you need to have symptoms to qualify for the free test. Those tests are not really free, its just that the government is paying for them, Since CVS and the other partners will be charging for the travel related tests, i am sure you will be able to get tested without symptoms. Paying cash money probably also expedites the test result.

Now maybe that is not a great use of resources.... but that a different question.

We have a trip planned for late September, hopefully they will have worked the kinks out by then...

 

[Luanne]

In my country the testing is free, but think you need to have symptoms to qualify for the free test. Those tests are not really free, its just that the government is paying for them, Since CVS and the other partners will be charging for the travel related tests, i am sure you will be able to get tested without symptoms. Paying cash money probably also expedites the test result.

Now maybe that is not a great use of resources.... but that a different question.

We have a trip planned for late September, hopefully they will have worked the kinks out by then...

You mean your county, right? You said country. It looks like from the CVS link that CVS will not charge for testing IF you have symptoms.

 

[luv_maui]

We have reservations starting August 2nd, so we’re trying to decide what to do. Our flight was actually July 31 as we had also booked a few nights at Grand Wailea before we go to the Westin Villas, and it was already cancelled.

My husband was thinking if we got tested but didn’t have results back by the time we arrived we could quarantine until they came in. Interested in feedback on that plan! I read the Marriott thread of a guest voluntarily quarantining for the 14 days. Sounds like transpo from the airport could be a sticking point, especially for us with two kids.


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It looked like uber/Lyft was available at the airport, but didn’t want to chance it, so got a private driver. We took a lyft from ka’anapali to Kihei to pick up our car rental after quarantine. But going into quarantine upon arrival is an issue unless you plan ahead. Quarantine means you immediately go to your quarantine location. No stops for anything. If you’re staying at a hotel, you’ll have to order every meal room delivered outside your door. I wouldn’t want to be quarantined in a small hotel room for 1-3 days. Things should be more open with at least 5 weeks for Maui to prepare. But currently, in tourist area ka’anapali, very little open.

 

[luv_maui]

I haven’t been tested and I’m wondering are the results instant or does it take a few days?

I’ve got a Sept 29 reservation so things may change by then.

At news conference yesterday, details still to come, but lieutenant governor stated (at 45:45 of press conference) that hawaii is finalizing a B2B with CVS, indicating very close to departure and rapid testing. Kind of implying not an issue for rapid test results but of course, proof is in the details and execution of this plan still to come.

 

[luv_maui]

Question you could test negative entering the airport and someone in the airport could be positive and not know it. Thus, when you land in Hawaii after a 10 to 14 hours flights.
You could test positive what happen then. Will everyone on the plane be forced to stay in a hotel for 14 days????.

But if you test negative let’s say at a CVS, social distance at airport, and wear a mask, not guaranteed, but chances are on your side as long as you don’t have a temperature or other symptom when you land. But yes, if you had temperature when you land or other symptoms, I’d guess you’d be quarantined for 14 days so you might as well go back home with most likely a scheduled stay less than 14 days.

 

[csodjd]

There is not an unlimited supply of Covid tests available. Offering people who feel well enough to travel to Hawaii, or anywhere else, the option to avoid quarantine with proof of a negative Covid test places an unnecessary demand on the limited supply for front line workers and people who may really have Covid-19. Seems like just another bureaucratic blunder.

LA County alone is doing 96,000 per day. I believe the US is doing about 640,000 per day. I'm not sure doing maybe 2,000 per day is that much a burden relative to the 200,000 unemployed people in Hawaii that will benefit from having tourism return. Moreover, some of those getting tested JUST for a trip to Hawaii will unexpectedly test positive, get quarantined and contact traced, and help reduce unwitting spread. We need MORE people randomly tested. Giving people a reason is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[bbodb1]

I read that Hawaii is somehow partnering with CVS to get tests with faster results. I guess that might work if you have a CVS near by.

Which suggests an idea - is/are all CVS stores able to provide tests and if so, could a traveler get one locally before departing for Hawaii and have that test result satisfy the requirement?

 

[Luanne]

Which suggests an idea - is/are all CVS stores able to provide tests and if so, could a traveler get one locally before departing for Hawaii and have that test result satisfy the requirement?

I think that is the idea. If you have a CVS close by, get tested there, within the time frame. A lot still needs to be worked out. CVS currently says test results will be back in 2 to 4 days (but someone I know who was tested there got hers back in more like 6 days). Also, the current requirements for CVS to test require you to have some symptoms. So in order for this to work they will need to adjust their requirements and shorten the time to get results. Also I "think", but I'd need to go back to the link that told what CVS requires, that it is at their Minute Clinics, which means it's not at all CVS locations.

Here is the link. It is only the Minute Clinics.

https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing

 

[csodjd]

Question you could test negative entering the airport and someone in the airport could be positive and not know it. Thus, when you land in Hawaii after a 10 to 14 hours flights.
You could test positive what happen then. Will everyone on the plane be forced to stay in a hotel for 14 days????.

No. Even if you were infected from that kind of brief encounter, which itself is unlikely (especially if the infected person is wearing face protection and didn't cough or sneeze on you), incubation to have sufficient virus to test positive doesn't normally in that short a time frame. It takes some time after exposure. That's one of the causes of false negatives.