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Changes coming to VIP

Thanks. Got it. From the way they worded it, maybe existing members that are not VIP Status but have VIP eligable points may be grandfathered also. It talks in terms of "New Member". That could be new members to Club Wyndham Plus/Access or new members to VIP Status. I hope it is the former.

I think the vip eligible points will still be vip eligible but the new targets will apply

There was no mention in the link, of any "enhancements"

Im betting the enhancement is nothing more than a false sense of exclusivity

Now that Im going to be grandfathered and get a new name "silver" (to match my hair) you would think that they will start delivering a USA today
 
So I guess current VIP owners will not be grandfathered in. This is another reson why I will never buy through the developer again

I'm surprised they did it - but they did - the provide a grandfather piece - So I guess if you are thinking VIP silver or gold do it by Oct. 2012
 
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I contacted Ken Bradshaw at Wyndham Corporate Direct. He confirmed the levels stated earlier and platinum staying at 1 million with an implementation date of October 2012. Also he said that current VIP would be grandfathered in. He sent me a PDF of the changes(attached below). He has been straight forward with me in the past so I tend to put a little more credence with what he says compared to sales at the resorts.

Jason

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Thanks Jason.
 
Additional Text from the e-mail

I got the e-mail from Dan Griffith at Tahoe

Here is the other text:

Dear Chris,

I just got back from President's Club Business meetings-and I have exciting new! As a point of contact for you and your ownership with Wyndham, I strive to bring you prompt information. In this regard, so that you can say you heard it already(and from me, first), Wyndham is rolling out new VIP levels!

We are calling it "The good life", and the reason is simple, there are so many great benefits to being a VIP, and we want you and your family and friends to enjoy your Club Wyndham ownership even more. So, for the first time in 16 years- we are adding enhancements to the VIP Program. More information will be coming to you this week regarding added benefits!

The Wyndham VIP Program will be raising the bar for new members to become eligible for the program-and you'll notice higher point level requirements for the three tiers of ownership. Also, there will be a bunch of new benefits, with a February 2012 Launch!

Already a VIP member? There's no need to worry-you'll be grandfathered into the new tier levels! We know that you'll enjoy the increased exclusivity and visibility of the program, to boot!


That is all I know - if I get info on the new benefits I'll post.
 
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I got off the phone with Ken and here is what he said are the new benefits which he himself said wasn't much. The names and exact benefits may vary slightly but this is the general overview of it.

VIPeek: Get VIP feedback/suggestions on upcoming programs and enhancements.
VIP branded merchandise:
VIP Now: Short term discounts/deals with Wyndham and affiliated partners.

He said any current level of VIP would be maintained but to upgrade after October you would need to be purchased to the new point levels whether a new or current owner.

Jason
 
I think the vip eligible points will still be vip eligible but the new targets will apply

There was no mention in the link, of any "enhancements"

Im betting the enhancement is nothing more than a false sense of exclusivity

Now that Im going to be grandfathered and get a new name "silver" (to match my hair) you would think that they will start delivering a USA today

When did you make the jump to VIP? and what incentive did they give you to buy 385k? It seems like you would do 300k, 500k or 1 million. Is there a master strategy I am unaware of?
 
What surprises me the most are all the TUGGERs who are VIP members(where this is pertinent,and willing to admit it) having bought retail from the developer. Are not TUGGERs resale buyers?

PS. I bought resale, and for me this is not an issue, happily.
 
What surprises me the most are all the TUGGERs who are VIP members(where this is pertinent,and willing to admit it) having bought retail from the developer. Are not TUGGERs resale buyers?

PS. I bought resale, and for me this is not an issue, happily.

I am not surprised, I have suspected for a long time that a lot of Tugers are VIP members, even at least some of which recommend no retail purchases. If one were a cynic .... (self censered before I say something I should not). Remember the old saying, "Do as I say and not as I do". From a battle scared retail buyer, I do not regret it. As far as I can tell a lot of the Tugers are re-sale sellers or they rent units.
 
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When did you make the jump to VIP? and what incentive did they give you to buy 385k? It seems like you would do 300k, 500k or 1 million. Is there a master strategy I am unaware of?

Ron is right, following Linda's lead makes sense in some circumstances.
 
One method of being VIP inexpensively was utilizing Fairfield's PIC program. I say Fairfield because by the time Wyndham came along, the program started to be limited. Many many years ago, you could have unlimited PIC weeks as long as you made a coresponding corporate purchase. The more weeks you PICed, the less additional points you had to buy. I don't know the exact numbers, but it was something like 77K for the first pic week, then and additional 49K for the 2nd PIC week, and then 26K for the 3rd, and again 26K for the 4th, etc. With a PIC week you get credit for so many Fairfield points based on season and size, so obviously if you are going to PIC a week, go for the 3 bedroom red season (also, didn't have to be prime red, shoulder red would do). A 3 bedroom red week PIC's for 254,000 Fairfield points. So by making the minimum purchase and picing 3 3 bedroom red weeks, boom, VIP plat. I remember hearing of one person PICing 14 3 bedroom red units. This person is a very nice person who lives in Wyndham year round and is probably what is considered a "mega-renter".

I think the rules now are that you can PIC a max of 2 weeks. SO, if you are going to go this route, make sure you get the best bang for your buck.

I also know at one time they were considering not allowing PIC weeks to count toward VIP levels. For all I know, that might even be the case now.

Lisa
 
... The Wyndham VIP Program will be raising the bar for new members to become eligible for the program-and you'll notice higher point level requirements for the three tiers of ownership ...

WARNING: This sales rep is indicating new point levels for all three VIP levels. It appears what is shapping up is new point levels for VIP and VIP Gold. VIP Platium appears to be remaining the same for now. In other words, if you are going to Platinum, you do not need to buy additional timeshares by October.
 
I think most experienced Tuggers will say buy resale, unless it makes sense to do otherwise and otherwise opportunities are very very few and far between. I know I have heard of pre-construction Marriott prices being good deals. I can't think of any other situations off the top of my head. But it all comes down to doing your research and getting your ducks in order before taking that developer plunge if that is what will get you what you want.

I know with some systems they would convert all of your resale points to developer points if you made a developer purchase. So, in this case, make sure you have your million Wyndham resale points lined up before you make that small developer purchase. Just kidding, they aren't allowed to do things like this anymore.

Lisa

Disclosure: We are VIP plat by PICing 3 resale red 3 bedrooms and we enjoy it. We worked with a salesperson when doing the purchase in order to make sure the PIC weeks qualified for the program before we purchased the PIC weeks.
 
Typo on provided letter?

Letter says in late October 2012 increase in all three tiers for VIP yet show the same amount of points for platinum.:confused:
Maybe it is supposed to be 1.2 million.
 
WARNING: This sales rep is indicating new point levels for all three VIP levels. It appears what is shapping up is new point levels for VIP and VIP Gold. VIP Platium appears to be remaining the same for now. In other words, if you are going to Platinum, you do not need to buy additional timeshares by October.

It also says you are grandfathered so no need to buy more unless you want to go to next tier.
 
It also says you are grandfathered so no need to buy more unless you want to go to next tier.

Yes that is my understanding at this point in what is emerging. It is my understanding from my latest conversation with Wyndham that Platium remains at 1 million. You are correct in the mis match between the posted words and numbers. I guess we wait and see which one was right.
 
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When did you make the jump to VIP? and what incentive did they give you to buy 385k? It seems like you would do 300k, 500k or 1 million. Is there a master strategy I am unaware of?

My strategy involved a lot of luck (good luck on my part, bad luck on the sellers)
I got my points from a dead guy
 
My strategy involved a lot of luck (good luck on my part, bad luck on the sellers)
I got my points from a dead guy

Its better to be lucky than good. I would buy enough in an equity trade to get one contract at 500k. Makes it more official and the discounts are better.
 
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