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From an update I just got

"So, for the first time in 16 years- we are adding enhancements to the VIP Program. More information will be coming to you this week regarding added benefits!

The Wyndham VIP Program will be raising the bar for new members to become eligible for the program-and you'll notice higher point level requirements for the three tiers of ownership. Also, there will be a bunch of new benefits, with a February 2012 Launch!"

Here are the new levels -

Ownership Tier: VIP
(entry level-being renamed SIlver VIP)
Current VIP Level 300,000 to 499,000 points
Future VIP Level-CLUB WYNDHAM Silver: 400,000 to 699,999

Ownership Tier: VIP GOLD
Current VIP GOLD Level 500,000 to 999,000 points
Future VIP GOLD Level 700,000 to 999,999 points

Ownership Tier VIP PLATINUM
Current VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+
Future VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+

Not sure what the new benefits are (of if they really will be benefits). But it is interesting that they appear to be making it more difficult for sales folks to use - YOU'll be VIP for folks who buy a small piece and get bonus points - which is probably good.
 

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From an update I just got

"So, for the first time in 16 years- we are adding enhancements to the VIP Program. More information will be coming to you this week regarding added benefits!

The Wyndham VIP Program will be raising the bar for new members to become eligible for the program-and you'll notice higher point level requirements for the three tiers of ownership. Also, there will be a bunch of new benefits, with a February 2012 Launch!"

Here are the new levels -

Ownership Tier: VIP
(entry level-being renamed SIlver VIP)
Current VIP Level 300,000 to 499,000 points
Future VIP Level-CLUB WYNDHAM Silver: 400,000 to 699,999

Ownership Tier: VIP GOLD
Current VIP GOLD Level 500,000 to 999,000 points
Future VIP GOLD Level 700,000 to 999,999 points

Ownership Tier VIP PLATINUM
Current VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+
Future VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+

Not sure what the new benefits are (of if they really will be benefits). But it is interesting that they appear to be making it more difficult for sales folks to use - YOU'll be VIP for folks who buy a small piece and get bonus points - which is probably good.
Bonus points have always VIP Elligable points. The sales pitch on Wyndham raising the bar for VIP Status has been around for awhile in the Sales Pitches. For what it is worth, that may very well happen at some point. In its orginal form, it was supposed to be in 2011. There is an upcoming Property Owners Association meeting for the Fairshare Trust. I do not know if the subject will be coming up or not. The pitch was to buy before the bar is raised to be grandfathered in for VIP purposes.
 

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Bonus points have always VIP Elligable points. The sales pitch on Wyndham raising the bar for VIP Status has been around for awhile in the Sales Pitches. For what it is worth, that may very well happen at some point. In its orginal form, it was supposed to be in 2011. There is an upcoming Property Owners Association meeting for the Fairshare Trust. I do not know if the subject will be coming up or not. The pitch was to buy before the bar is raised to be grandfathered in for VIP purposes.
Well that was the "pitch" we got in south Florida the first week of January. I tell ya' Wyndham is running out of Blue Sky to sale! When we were discussing the options for us to move on up to Platinum they told us we need to hurry because they will be changing it from a minimum of a million points to 1.2 million. We aren't ready to invest more at this time so we didn't " bite"
 

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Heard the same lower numbers. Did not hear the Platimum 1.2 million. Refused to do an update as stalker salesman from Thanksgiving trip still employed here.
You all remember him involving 2 cops and 7hours of my life from 11:45 til almost 7am while he hid inbushes outside her apt?
Guess after all the upping the unit point costs over the years, you almost have to be VIP to book a unit in a Prime week.:ignore:
 

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I like how they use "enhancements" when there's nothing in it apparently for customers. They must be learning those sales pitches from RCI with all their "enhancements"!
 

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... Did not hear the Platimum 1.2 million ... Guess after all the upping the unit point costs over the years, you almost have to be VIP to book a unit in a Prime week.:ignore:
I have heard the 1.2 Million as a reason for me to upgrade my Platium membership. That is what I would need to maintain Platinum.
 

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Hold onto your wallets Wyndham owners! It's another year, so Wyndham will be trying to come up with another concept to soak owners and make more profits.

Wyndham is all about pleasing the shareholders, and you don't please the shareholders unless you're making more and more profits.
 

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... Wyndham is all about pleasing the shareholders, and you don't please the shareholders unless you're making more and more profits.
Called Owner Care at Corporate Wyndham, they said they believed the points needed for VIP are goinig up but they have not been notified of the effective date yet.
 

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The last time I heard the pitch that VIP point levels were going up was back when Fairfield was becoming Wyndham. The only enhanced benefit I have ever seen with VIP was the addition of a local newspaper on weekends when USA Today is not published. We generally don't do updates anymore, but we did go to a VIP Platinum couple day event at Glacier Canyon last fall. Nobody said anything about point levels going up at that time. They were pushing Club Wyndham Access.
Doug
 

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According to the Marketing Staff at National Habor, the E-Mail raising points for VIP has been received and they have been told to let the guests know to get them over to buy additional timeshares. If anyone is at Wyndham resorts this weekend, it would be great if they checked with the Marketing Staff to see what they are saying on this point.
 
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Everytime Wyndham gives VIP's enhancements, it is always more like a demotion.

Lisa

PS It's February 2012 now, where are the "enhancements"?
 

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VIP Levels Increasing?

The threat of VIP point levels going up has been around for many years. I remember a salesman showing us an official looking 'memo' back around 2002 stating VIP levels were going up. Never happened. I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, no updates for me no matter how many gifts they want to bring to my room!
 

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Bonus points have always VIP Elligable points. The sales pitch on Wyndham raising the bar for VIP Status has been around for awhile in the Sales Pitches. For what it is worth, that may very well happen at some point. In its orginal form, it was supposed to be in 2011. There is an upcoming Property Owners Association meeting for the Fairshare Trust. I do not know if the subject will be coming up or not. The pitch was to buy before the bar is raised to be grandfathered in for VIP purposes.
I had not heard about it - and did owner updates in Dec and Jan. And yes bonus points have been eligible that is the point - they will either have to offer more or those initial smaller sales will not get someone the VIP - which is a teaser they use.
 

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Everytime Wyndham gives VIP's enhancements, it is always more like a demotion.

Lisa

PS It's February 2012 now, where are the "enhancements"?
This is my fear as well and I too wondered why the "enhancements" were not announced at the same time. Usually a sign that the enhancements are not ones I'm going to like.
 

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So I guess current VIP owners will not be grandfathered in. This is another reson why I will never buy through the developer again
 

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From an update I just got

"So, for the first time in 16 years- we are adding enhancements to the VIP Program. More information will be coming to you this week regarding added benefits!

The Wyndham VIP Program will be raising the bar for new members to become eligible for the program-and you'll notice higher point level requirements for the three tiers of ownership. Also, there will be a bunch of new benefits, with a February 2012 Launch!"

Here are the new levels -

Ownership Tier: VIP
(entry level-being renamed SIlver VIP)
Current VIP Level 300,000 to 499,000 points
Future VIP Level-CLUB WYNDHAM Silver: 400,000 to 699,999

Ownership Tier: VIP GOLD
Current VIP GOLD Level 500,000 to 999,000 points
Future VIP GOLD Level 700,000 to 999,999 points

Ownership Tier VIP PLATINUM
Current VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+
Future VIP PLATINUM 1,000,000+

Not sure what the new benefits are (of if they really will be benefits). But it is interesting that they appear to be making it more difficult for sales folks to use - YOU'll be VIP for folks who buy a small piece and get bonus points - which is probably good.
When did you get this because the Wyndham website still shows old/current point values for VIP...

Jason
 

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My friend just went to owners update on sat and they showed her a copy of this promo. I told her to call owners services
 

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I'm thinking that this is another example of why the best plan, for most folks, is to just buy resale, enjoy nice vacations, and don't worry about the info that is propagated by the Sales Department.
 

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I contacted Ken Bradshaw at Wyndham Corporate Direct. He confirmed the levels stated earlier and platinum staying at 1 million with an implementation date of October 2012. Also he said that current VIP would be grandfathered in. He sent me a PDF of the changes(attached below). He has been straight forward with me in the past so I tend to put a little more credence with what he says compared to sales at the resorts.

Jason

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I contacted Ken Bradshaw at Wyndham Corporate Direct. He confirmed the levels stated earlier and platinum staying at 1 million with an implementation date of October 2012. Also he said that current VIP would be grandfathered in. He sent me a PDF of the changes(attached below). He has been straight forward with me in the past so I tend to put a little more credence with what he says compared to sales at the resorts.

Jason

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Agreed Corporate Sales and Owner Care tend to be much more reliable than the Sales Staff. Great detective work. I clicked on the link, it came up as an invalid link. Could you cut and paste the content and post?
 
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Agreed Corporate Sales and Owner Care tend to be much more reliable than the Sales Staff. Great detective work. I clicked on the link, it came up as an invalid link. Could you cut and paste the content and post?
I edited the link and it looks like it worked this time.

Jason
 

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I edited the link and it looks like it worked this time.

Jason
Thanks. Got it. From the way they worded it, maybe existing members that are not VIP Status but have VIP eligable points may be grandfathered also. It talks in terms of "New Member". That could be new members to Club Wyndham Plus/Access or new members to VIP Status. I hope it is the former.
 
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