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[2020] A little stock market sense

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One of the best decisions I ever made was 21 years ago when I retired. I had the choice with my Pension to take a very large lump sum or monthly payments for the rest of my life (with half of my monthly payment for my 20 year younger ex-wife when I die). Thank God I took the monthly payments, Knowing me, if I had taken the lump sum, I'd be a pauper today...

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PigsDad said:
A correction now and then is a good thing. Opportunity awaits!

Kurt
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Opportunity awaits only for the market timers who sold high to raise the cash needed for the "opportunity" to reinvest at lower, maybe much lower prices.

The "buy-and-hold" investor, by definition, has only the amount of their next (comparatively very small) regular contribution to take advantage of any selloff opportunities.
 
CO skier said:
Opportunity awaits only for the market timers who sold high to raise the cash needed for the "opportunity" to reinvest at lower, maybe much lower prices.

The "buy-and-hold" investor, by definition, has only the amount of their next (comparatively very small) regular contribution to take advantage of any selloff opportunities.
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I consider myself a buy-and-hold investor, but I always have some extra funds waiting for market dips. Has worked well for me.

Kurt
 
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I consider myself a buy-and-hold investor, but I always have some extra funds waiting for market dips. Has worked well for me.

Kurt
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Wouldn't you have put those extra funds to work on some previous dip? How much of a dip is enough to deploy any extra funds? Did you take advantage of the "opportunity" two weeks ago? Did you take advantage of the "opportunity" today, now that "the market" is in "correction territory" from the market top?

Let us all know when "opportunity" arrives!
 
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Wouldn't you have put those extra funds to work on some previous dip? How much of a dip is enough to deploy any extra funds? Did you take advantage of the "opportunity" two weeks ago? Did you take advantage of the "opportunity" today, now that "the market" is in "correction territory" from the market top?

Let us all know when "opportunity" arrives!
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I don't deploy all of my savings directly to investments with each paycheck. And yes, I actually bought some yesterday and today, thanks for asking. Will my guess be right? Who knows, but I'm generally happy when putting in a little extra on local lows.

Also, if you are a strict dollar cost average investor, analysis has shown that a more volatile market is better in the long run than a steadily increasing market.

Kurt
 
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I don't deploy all of my savings directly to investments with each paycheck. And yes, I actually bought some yesterday and today, thanks for asking. Will my guess be right? Who knows, but I'm generally happy when putting in a little extra on local lows.

Also, if you are a strict dollar cost average investor, analysis has shown that a more volatile market is better in the long run than a steadily increasing market.

Kurt
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So you are a buy-and-hold investor with a little market timing on the side?

You are buying now, but you posted "opportunity awaits"?

It is all very confusing.
 
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So you are a buy-and-hold investor with a little market timing on the side?
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Sort of, but since I am in accumulation mode, I don't try to sell on the local highs so that is why I consider myself mostly a buy-and-hold investor. So basically just try a little market timing on the dips only. My idea of a market timer is someone who tries to time the market on both sells and buys.

You are buying now, but you posted "opportunity awaits"?

It is all very confusing.
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I don't know where an absolute bottom will be but I just buy on larger dips. I feel like there will be more dips coming, hence the "opportunity awaits" comment. Of course, I could be wrong, who knows? Not very confusing to me, at least.

Kurt
 
Sound liked that Ukrainian situation is going to causes more lower prices in the stock market. IMHO.
 
pedro47 said:
Sound liked that Ukrainian situation is going to causes more lower prices in the stock market. IMHO.
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I was up early watching the futures tank. I bet you are right.

Bill
 
The headlines I see are 'Russia launches full-scale war against Ukraine'

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Sound liked that Ukrainian situation is going to causes more lower prices in the stock market. IMHO.
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Sold my short NASDAQ EFT yesterday. I'm waiting for the next bounce up to re-establish my short position. Holding my dividend stocks - they were bought for cashflow. Dividend is secure for the next few years, anyways.
 
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Warren Buffett has cautioned against stockpiling cash, gold, or bitcoin in times of war - and declared stocks are the safest long-term play

The billionaire investor said he'd buy stocks even if World War III were coming, and noted the value of money typically falls during conflicts.
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Kurt
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That is interesting. I would be wary of crypto's because of the possibility of government sponsored hacking. Dollars seem to do ok in times of war because it is the world currency for now anyway. The problem with dollars is inflation. Gold prices do well in times of war. Back in the Iran conflict gold went up over 125% in value so there could be an upside with gold again. Gold has started moving up. US stocks often loose value in war times. This war could cause stocks to loose value faster and longer because of other weaknesses in the world economy or maybe the fed will be able to balance and print and keep equities rising.

Warren says to stay invested in businesses but many businesses are having problems globally. Could Warren be wrong ?

Bill
 
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That is interesting. I would be wary of crypto's because of the possibility of government sponsored hacking. Dollars seem to do ok in times of war because it is the world currency for now anyway. The problem with dollars is inflation.
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I cleaned out my small investment portfolio a while back including a small foray into crypto. I gave my Son about $40k of gold and silver coins to put in his larger gun safe and just put a small amount back into crypto by buying shares in the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust. It is like a closed end mutual fund that holds only Bitcoin. What I like is that it sells at a 25% discount to spot Bitcoin...

George
 
Buffet is in the situation where he can't sell. If he unloaded his portfolio, it would cause a bear market all by itself.

There are advantages for being small.
 
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He could be, but how many people do you know that have gotten rich going against Warren's advice?

Kurt
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Warren's investments could loose 50% of their value and he would still be in the top 5 of wealthiest people in the USA. When everyday people are older and loose 50% value of their investments they would need to play the long run scenario which is proven to work if there is enough time. So if you have more time than money it makes sense to stay invested, imo. If you have more money than time it might not, imo.

Bill
 
With all the death and destruction, I hate to say it, but...
Six months from now, Ukraine will be in the rear view mirror.
We'll have said our good-byes, and moved on to the next crisis.
And yes, the market will be higher.
 
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