[2008] Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

[KarenLK]

What earthquake??? I was there, and the bed danced a nit. Most people did not know that there had been an earthquake.
At least 2 people in PV told me that the whole thing is a bug fraud and there is litigation against them, but I got no more details.

 

[pammex]

Ah yes the earthquake....sorry but I have to chuckle....

I just got back from the area and have more photos, as soon as I get caught up and find my camera I will post them.

There is work going on...as vertical beams are also now in place....still only exists a few workers..and yes many other resorts have already been completed since belair started. For that matter a mall, a walmart and a condo development in my area have been completed in that time....

It is a positive that some work is being done but I have no clue why so slow and why all the lame excuses....earthquake....you mean a slight tremor is anything....

Still have my fingers crossed for those with a vested interest.

 

[TimeShare Junky]

Profeco Response

Dear Mr. Swartz,

From Profeco,

The Department of Conciliation Services for Foreign Residents from this Federal Agency for Consumer Protection (PROFECO) has received the paperwork regarding your complaint against Sunset Group.

I have analyzed your complaint again and according to Article 105 from the Federal Law of Consumer’s Protection there is a term of one year, after the purchase, to submit a complaint through this Office and in your case, this term has exceeded.

The above since 2007 was the first year of use and it is supposse that your complaint starts in 2007 (for the non fulfillment of the contract)

Therefore your inconformity has exceeded the term.


To Profeco,

Believe me, I will spead the word that when dealing with a timeshare. Your agency supports Mexican cons to extract US dollars as long as they can hold out for one year. Never again and I will also pass the word not to make any Mexican deals in this manner. You will not return money, but you can shut them dowm based on my evidence and the many other US citizens that have complained.

TO US consulate,

Please help, the Profeco agency is supporting a timeshare con in PV. I can support all the neccessary document to support the scrupulous activity of Belaire Golf Resort. I have lost 14,000, have a broken contract with a string of promising good will in e-mails preventing me from seeking reimbustment help. If you can not protect me as the US citizens, who can. Hundreds of other americans are suffering from my same positions and there are multiple blogs about Belaire in PV.

 

[Snappy Sam]

I am so sorry for all of you who are getting no help. I am afraid our U.S. Consulate will also have their hands tied because of the laws. But they certainly can investigate and make us aware of their investigation and the results.
These Belaire folks are no dummys as is obvious from their continued
success in duping so many people. What astounds me is that no one seems to be able to shut them down.
You have to wonder who and what all is involved with this operation. I think the one saving grace has been TUG. People like myself found TUG just in time for us to rescind. Hopefully by keeping an eye on this we can continue to help others before it is too late for others.

 

[pammex]

I am so sorry for all of you who are getting no help. I am afraid our U.S. Consulate will also have their hands tied because of the laws. But they certainly can investigate and make us aware of their investigation and the results.
These Belaire folks are no dummys as is obvious from their continued
success in duping so many people. What astounds me is that no one seems to be able to shut them down.
You have to wonder who and what all is involved with this operation. I think the one saving grace has been TUG. People like myself found TUG just in time for us to rescind. Hopefully by keeping an eye on this we can continue to help others before it is too late for others.

I too think the US Consulate will have hands tied due to laws of two countries. Yes they can investigate but not to sure or positive they will.

Yes you do have to wonder who and what is involved in this operation, things are quite different in Mexico than in the US and the laws are totally different.

TUG has been invaluable in this regard for many people..

Please try to keep your common sense when on vacation in Mexico, the same applies in Mexico if sounds too good to be true it most likely is.

I did note more work has been done on site as my pics will show but I fear this will be a long time if ever in completion and even then there are some sketchy areas of the contract......

My heart goes out to all invested in this...I own many timeshares in Mexico and am happy with each one, I was lucky I did not take the bait on this one....a lot could have to do with my involvement in TUG and the knowledge I have gAined from so many.

 

[Snappy Sam]

I am surprised we haven't heard from anyone lately who has been to a Belaire presentation recently. Anyone who has been there in the last couple of months we'd like to hear what you were told, if you purchased or not and if not, how were you treated, etc.

 

[Sponge]

We went to the Dog and Pony show on Feb.12th. Had to go through 4 different people just to get in the door!!! Had a green salesman and it was pretty low key. Until we went to collect the peso's. They tried to tell us that we had been there before. I took the sheet of paper they had and it had the same name as mine but a Califoirnia address. Thing's went down hill from there. They asked how many presentation we had been on that week. We told them this was the only one. HA-HA !!!!! After we received the cash they proceeded to call us stroker's. I said they had it wrong we were PROFESSIONAL stroker's !!! Total time 3 hours and $5,500.00 pesos.:rofl:

 

[pammex]

When we went they also asked us how many presentations we had been on and then told us that the US IRS was going to tax the presentation gifts received etc. We laughed so hard and asked how would they know.....we were told oh you will have to fill out a form or they will just know....more laughs...

PROFESSIONAL STROKERS....I love it......You have no clue how hard I am laughing...good for you, what a great comeback!!!:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

 

[Snappy Sam]

Thanks for the latest and greatest Sponge! I had wondered why we hadn't heard anything recently but it sounds like the usual Belaire stuff.
Anyone else? Are the same people working at the Belaire? Updates are always appreciated.

 

[Sponge]

Steve and Kirby have moved to the Belaire from Playa Del Sol. They are manager's. They popped a bottle of champagne when we were there and the manager's were the only ones drinking it !! Same s**t different location.

 

[pammex]

No clue on who is working at Belair now......in sales or such...but I can say with many passes over two weeks by Belair the construction crew remains very small....but yet work has been done as you will see from my following pics....

Still a long way from being a usable facility though but at least there is some progress...who knows how much will be accomplished before the rainy season hits and they use that as another reason for delays....maybe...

 

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[pammex]

Well there you go 12 updated pics for March 2009. I do have to say this is more progres than I have seen for much time......I hope for those invested it continues.

Sorry no banner pics this time at Belair.....LOL. Will continue to post more pics on my next return in a few months............

Oh though these were taken on a saturday I believe, it was still before close of day at 2pm......for construction crews....they probably should be working around the clock...

 

[Karen G]

Pam, thanks for posting all those pictures. It is interesting to see all that framework or whatever the correct term is for the white things. They almost look like they are made of plastic. We appreciate your taking the time to take and post the pictures. Good work!

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Pam, thanks for posting all those pictures. It is interesting to see all that framework or whatever the correct term is for the white things. They almost look like they are made of plastic. We appreciate your taking the time to take and post the pictures. Good work!

Posts and beams, Karen. And you are correct; together they make up the structural framework.

 

[Karen G]

Posts and beams

Thanks, Steve. I learn something every day on TUG!

 

[pammex]

Posts and beams, Karen. And you are correct; together they make up the structural framework.

Not of plastic though....steel and already some rust showing....so thus I assume :hysterical: they will have to repaint them before they proceed further.....

Hubby says he really can't figure out the configuration based on show units as yet, he is a builder...so we will see what happens next visit.....certainly an interesting project to follow.

 

[TimeShare Junky]

Building Layout

You must realize, they have told me on my last visit that the configuation is to change. However, they said it will be better. The sales building will eventually be torn down for the second tower. Maybe the 2nd tower will be built 7 years from now for they will milk it for every penny. :hysterical:

They are under no obligation to sell you what you see. That style is not in the contract and you had a year to dispute any item in the contract with Profeco or forget it. According to Profeco. Any e-mails promises that are not in the contract do not need to be met. Sorry.

 

[pammex]

You must realize, they have told me on my last visit that the configuation is to change. However, they said it will be better. The sales building will eventually be torn down for the second tower. Maybe the 2nd tower will be built 7 years from now for they will milk it for every penny. :hysterical:

They are under no obligation to sell you what you see. That style is not in the contract and you had a year to dispute any item in the contract with Profeco or forget it. According to Profeco. Any e-mails promises that are not in the contract do not need to be met. Sorry.

Yes, we were told that the sales building would be torn down....for a second tower when we questioned where they would fit what they stated....

The contract was vague, long and well not very protective of investors.....this could become another issue down the road.

Quite the deal you buy something they are under no contract that it is what you were shown......this really is scary!!!

 

[TimeShare Junky]

What percentage does it look like from your husbands point of view that it will really looks close to the same building as what we were presented in a display. : )