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[2008] Belaire Golf Resort and Spa

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Well that is it for this time for updated construction site at Belair..........looks improved to me....but then again I have no investment.......

Now you can check if webcam and info being given you as owners matches up.....Hope this helps some...

Best Wishes to all........
 

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I see you took the pictures on a Tuesday, which would be an ordinary work day.

I guess it must have been siesta time when you took the pictures.
 

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LOL....as I have stated in other posts I have never seen more than a handlful of workers on site...in many visits, many times taking photos and a daily walk by while in PV.....It is going to take a LONG time with a crew this size....LOL...

Oh one of the pics does show a garfon ( 5 gal. bottled water container), which actually looks full.....as oppossed to many months of being on its side LOL...
 

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Your photos could all be entitled "Stilllife in Puerto Vallarta" as the site seems to be missing any workers.

My parents bought here over 2 years ago and I sure hope that it is built while they are still able to travel! I sure wish they hadn't bought or at least bought at a place that actually exists.
 

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Belaire Update: Customer Sevice response

Customer Service has notified me that they have promised no completion date. Has anyone been promised a date in writing? and how was this stated ?

Thanks

Until this is completed everyone will need to pay a usage fee to the temp. resort.
 

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pammex:

The photos are fantastic. I hope you had a good time taking them while on your vacation.

It is clear that Bellaire is not yet a functional resort. Thanks
 

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Belaire update

We purchased 4 weeks Diamond Executive Suite (1 registered + 3 unregistered weeks) @ Belaire in April 2007. Fully understanding this was a pre-construction price & that was a big part that made it desirable, anyone who thought they were purchasing an existing facility are trying to kid themselves and others.

While in PV the week of Jan 11-18 2009 my wife and I took in a Time Share presentation at Velas Vallarta. It is only a stone’s throw away from the Belaire so we figured we might as well make a few bucks & get a free ride from Nuevo Vallarta where we were staying. The sales manager we spoke to wasn’t fond of Belaire but he did say it would eventually get built which was a shred of good news and this coming from a competitor with an actual facility to sell. It was sad toward the end of the presentation to listen to this poor guy practically beg me to buy though. We did stop by the Belaire but without a reservation we were not able to sit down with anyone that day but we did speak to another couple who were there for the very reason we were and they said they felt better after talking to someone, they were also being taken to the Miramar for a tour. We made an appointment for the following day and a rep did spend quite a bit of time with us answering our questions and concerns. I took a few pictures which I will attach at link to

http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/steve_esko/

There were more steel structures in place than what we saw on the web cams before we left. It also appears to have more in place since we arrived home. It was also explained to us that they only receive 3 sections a day which the guard also told us when I stopped by the main gate entrance on our way back out to the main road. He even let me take a picture of his materials log sheet in which he checks off each load of steel structures as they arrive, picture is in the above photobucket link.

Later in the week we took in another Time Share presentation @ the Flamingos & they actually were willing to offer us an equity exchange of our Belaire membership toward a Timeshare unit at their resort. (at an inflated rate I’m sure) None the less another ray of hope toward Belaire.

As far as seeing a sales reps at another resort who previously worked at Belaire as I read in an earlier post - we saw two former Playa del Sol salesmen working at Belaire the first day we stopped in. I think it is common for these guys to jump from resort to another, nature of the beast I guess.

I’m going to remain being optimistic, understanding there were some initial delays due to the footing issues and weather conditions and also some mismanagement which I hope has been resolved. It is my understanding there is no need for a huge crew until the steel is in place and which time things should speed up as the shell starts to go up, etc.
 

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Building Size

I would like everyone to be aware that there are over now 800 members and one building. One member is a 1,000,000 investor. This gives him, I think it was 6 months, Full Penthouse. Do the math.
 

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:shrug: :hysterical:
I would like everyone to be aware that there are over now 800 members and one building. One member is a 1,000,000 investor. This gives him, I think it was 6 months, Full Penthouse. Do the math.
I wrote to Belaire's forum with that same question to no avail. How dependable is your info on the amount of owners and is there any maximum mentioned or is that a very naive question?
 
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We've been across the street at Velas Vallarta since January 3, 2009. We noticed a considerable change at Bel Air a few days ago. Our best count is there were 18 columns up on Tuesday.
 

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Belaire Condos

Next door to the Belaire sales building, two years ago the owner of Belair lived with some condos.

During my visit in December. I saw this property packed with more condos. I wondered if he owned those and if he has paid for them with his salary. If this is the case, at least he made a good investment.:crash:
 

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Status week of February 13-20

We walked by Belaire 3 times during our stay in PV last week. Although we never saw any activity at the worksite, there was evidence that work had been performed since the above pictures were posted. I don't know the technical names for construction, but I'll try to describe the status I saw on the 20th as we went to the airport.
It looked like all of the vertical beams were in place on each of the concrete piers. There were what appeared to be the horizonal beams laying on the ground ready to be hoisted into position.
So some work has been completed in the last month.
 

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We walked by Belaire 3 times during our stay in PV last week. Although we never saw any activity at the worksite, there was evidence that work had been performed since the above pictures were posted.

We also just returned. I can confirm that there has been progress since steve_esko posted:
I took a few pictures which I will attach at link to

http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/steve_esko/

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When I walked past the site this morning, there was a crane truck on site that wasn't there in steve_esko's photos. We noted the same crane in the exact same location on site three days earlier as well. Other than that, it looked pretty much unchanged.
 

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The Usual Belaire Stuff

Oh my! I know all of you on this thread will be so surprised to hear the latest Belaire excuse. We just had friends stop by and they were told the construction was set back a bit by the recent earthquake! Now I know PV has frequent earthquakes but I believe the last one (within the last month) was a small one.
HMMMM....:hysterical:
 

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Hi, Snappy Sam:wave:

Thanks for the update. That's certainly a new excuse.:D
 

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Hi Karen,
I thought everyone would enjoy a good chuckle for the day! Now this one beats all!:rofl:
 

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I feel for the people who have bought in this project. It's far from a "chuckling" matter unless you were able to rescind and got your money back.

We were at the marina recently but didn't get near this place because my SO didn't want to take a chance getting involved in a timeshare tour.

Flexible, are you still at the Velas Vallarta so can you see the progress from upstairs? Please, give us an update. ;)
 

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Flexible, are you still at the Velas Vallarta so can you see the progress from upstairs? Please, give us an update. ;)

How do you update something that doesn't change? Isn't asking for an update on Belaire a bit like asking for an update on whether the ocean is still salty?
 

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Steve, when we were there, a lot of change took place as several vertical beams were hoisted. Flexible told me this too and she even posted it here.

We've been across the street at Velas Vallarta since January 3, 2009. We noticed a considerable change at Bel Air a few days ago. Our best count is there were 18 columns up on Tuesday.

I would have liked to have seen it myself but my SO said: "Over his dead body" in other words "no". I have no idea what they have done since February but she may be able to see it from upstairs, if she is still at the same resort. I know that she was staying until after Easter but I don't remember where and at which resort.

It must be a very small developer that is building this supposedly "luxury" resort. I hope it is earthquake proof! :rolleyes: We saw whole resorts or condo projects almost completely built between the two visits we were there (June 08 - January 09). There is still a lot of construction going on in the PV/NV area and all around there too.
 
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Steve, when we were there, a lot of change took place as several vertical beams were hoisted. Flexible told me this too and she even posted it here.

Emmy - you're probably right. I was a bit hyperbolic in comparing construction of the Belaire with changes in the salinity of the ocean.

A more apt comparison might be with the retreats and advances of glaciers. At the pace that Belaire is progressing, we will likely pass through current cycle of glacial melting and be well into the next ice age by the time the drywall contractor shows up on site.
 

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And I agree that the Belaire situation for those who have not or were unable to rescind is no laughing matter. However, the excuse of the recent earthquake delaying the project I thought was quite funny. No other builders have been delayed as the recent earthquake was a very short, typical one with some shaking. But nothing of any impact.
I do hope however, on a serious note that anyone who still wants to believe what Belaire tells you might want to consider their earthquake excuse. :(
 
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