HGVC original vs. MAX

[MindReign]

I just attended an OU in Vegas. I currently have a platinum deed at Flamingo for 11200 pts that I got on the resale market. Every time they see that, they pretty much zip through the OU to get me out of there. This time I tried getting some questions answered about MAX, etc. Apparently I have two options.

1.) I can buy MAX points and gain access to MAX properties with a 6 month book ahead.
2.) I can "True Up" with my deed or buy another one directly from them and get into MAX that comes with a 13 month book ahead on Max properties.

Right now, we use our points every year, but would like to get some new locations to visit. What's the recommended path? Sounds like the only way to get into max properties is directly through HGVC and not on the resale market?

 

[dioxide45]

I just attended an OU in Vegas. I currently have a platinum deed at Flamingo for 11200 pts that I got on the resale market. Every time they see that, they pretty much zip through the OU to get me out of there. This time I tried getting some questions answered about MAX, etc. Apparently I have two options.

1.) I can buy MAX points and gain access to MAX properties with a 6 month book ahead.
2.) I can "True Up" with my deed or buy another one directly from them and get into MAX that comes with a 13 month book ahead on Max properties.

Right now, we use our points every year, but would like to get some new locations to visit. What's the recommended path? Sounds like the only way to get into max properties is directly through HGVC and not on the resale market?

What they would be selling you with option 2 are Diamond/Hilton Vacation Club points in one of the collections. These can't be used along with your HGVC points at 10 months. They would only be able to be used at Hilton Vacation Club/Diamon properties at 13-6 months. You can then use them along with your HGVC points in HGV Max at 6 months.

This is not really a good option. Your best and likely cheapest option is to just go out and buy (likely free) a resale Diamond deeded week (avoid the crappy points) and trade it through DEX.

 

[MindReign]

What they would be selling you with option 2 are Diamond/Hilton Vacation Club points in one of the collections. These can't be used along with your HGVC points at 10 months. They would only be able to be used at Hilton Vacation Club/Diamon properties at 13-6 months. You can then use them along with your HGVC points in HGV Max at 6 months.

This is not really a good option. Your best and likely cheapest option is to just go out and buy (likely free) a resale Diamond deeded week (avoid the crappy points) and trade it through DEX.

Thank you for that info. Not super familiar with DEX. Does that basically mean I'd be buying a very specific location's week and then banking on trading it to someone else at an alternate destination that they own the deed for? Essentially just a hard swap for that week?

 

[dioxide45]

Thank you for that info. Not super familiar with DEX. Does that basically mean I'd be buying a very specific location's week and then banking on trading it to someone else at an alternate destination that they own the deed for? Essentially just a hard swap for that week?

Yes. An alternative would be to buy resale DRI/HVC trust points in one of the collections. The issue there is that you can only use those resale points in the collection you purchase into. You can't use them to book at resorts between collections.

 

[MindReign]

Yes. An alternative would be to buy resale DRI/HVC trust points in one of the collections. The issue there is that you can only use those resale points in the collection you purchase into. You can't use them to book at resorts between collections.

Ok, makes sense. I'll do some research on those, thank you.

 

[GT75]

What's the recommended path?

You might only have two options from that salesperson (in order for them to make money) but you certainly have many additional options elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't suggest following the salesperson's advice. That would be a horrible decision. I think that @dioxide45 gave good advice because I would also suggest DEX as an option. You can look at this thread

Depositing Craig Lodges and other HGVC weeks into DEX

I thought it would be good to have a thread about this topic since a number of us are currently going through it with Craig Lodges and they have offered it for Plantation. I am going to add some of the documents that we have collected so far and provide updates on the process. Others, please...

tugbbs.com

Another option for getting into DEX is to purchase HVC Sedona Summit 2BR LO deeded week in platinum season. This advice is coming from @cindyc and @NiteMaire. If you would like to learn more why, you can ask and they can point you to previous discussions.

Of course, another option is to purchase resale in another TS system. Many TUG members have done that.

 

[Skyyblueplaya]

Explain? People fall for marketing. They do it all the time, nonstop. nearly $200,000,000,000 will be spent this year on ads in the US alone.
I want IT because "I have a hole in my life. My life won't be complete without IT"
I want IT because "somebody I know has IT"
I want IT because "all the cool people IT"
I want IT because "having IT looks like so much fun on TV"

Someone's got their brains turned to the right frequency! Don't be a sheeple, make your own decisions, FOMO is for ... non smart people.

I dont wanna be rude we wanna be informed!

This has soooo much good information on it. STILL Don't know the LAYMANS terms definitions of HGVC/HVC/HGVMax HGV Legacy and Centum and Blah Blah Blah...
Back in my day... in the Hilton Hotel world was only Blue, Silver, Gold & Diamond Hilton Honors status........... now there's HGV max Centum+ members and Diamond Legacy Platinum whatever! Im making this up, but I digress. One day i'll understand this stuff. It's easier to learn as an owner than as an employee bcuz this is over my head

 

[SkyBornDancer]

The cheapest way to join Max is just go out and buy a resale deed of the opposite program from what you own. May not be quite as flexible, but is also more flexible in other ways. Way cheaper too!

Not only is it cheaper, but you then get better booking window than max. In whatever new program you bought, it will be better availability that the 6 months.

 

[Tedwards]

We are Legacy DRI Members. We have no desire to join MAX. Nor do other DRI Members we have talked to about it. If they understand what they are gaining (very little) and what Legacy Rights/Entitlements they are losing (a lot). We have traded into HGVC Resorts at 13 months with our Worldmark Credits. Much better deal than the 6 months with MAX.

Forgive my ignorance, what is DRI?

 

[Tedwards]

Not only is it cheaper, but you then get better booking window than max. In whatever new program you bought, it will be better availability that the 6 months.

What do you man by “opposite program that you own”? We have 23,000 points with a base property in Vegas

 

[brp]

Forgive my ignorance, what is DRI?

DRI = Diamond Resorts International. Acquired a few years back by HVC,

What do you man by “opposite program that you own”? We have 23,000 points with a base property in Vegas

There is still some separation between HGVC and DRI programs. So, if you own in HGVC (you likely do being in Vegas), DRI is the "opposite program" and MAX gives you access only at 6 months. And the converse is true if one owns at a Diamond property.

Cheers.

 

[ljmiii]

DRI = Diamond Resorts International. Acquired a few years back by HGVC,

I don't know if I'm helping or hurting given the alphabet soup that HGV has created, but DRI was acquired by HGV, renamed HVC and is a sibling of HGVC.

 

[brp]

I don't know if I'm helping or hurting given the alphabet soup that HGV has created, but DRI was acquired by HGV, renamed HVC and is a sibling of HGVC.

Dammit, yes, you are right. I even know better (that these are siblings as I was writing above), and still wrote it wrong. I have now fixed my post. But the important
part is the separation between then siblings and the impact of MAX on that.

Cheers.