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  1. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 42… Living 6 months in Timeshares

    There are several questions one would ask about living in a timeshare for six months. 1) Why would anyone do this? 2) What are the economics? 3) What are the possibilities? 4) How can I do this? Why would anyone do this? Two weeks a year to vacation and see the world is not enough anymore...
  2. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 33 How I earned 71 free hotel nights in one year

    In this video, I reviewed my overly obsessive approach to figure out how to earn 71 free hotel nights in a single year. My goal is offer you several ideas for how you can leverage what you are doing to earn free hotel nights by doing what you are doing anyway. I look forward to learning...
  3. N

    US Marriott Points vs Asia Pacific Points, or should I be looking at others like Hyatt, Hilton or Welk points?

    I am a Bonvoy Platinum and looking into buying into Marriott Timeshare for Marriott Points to trade in during prime vacation weeks (skiing week 51 or 52, President's weekend, Spring break/Easter vacation, summer mid June-first week of August or Thanksgiving). What is the best Marriott points...
  4. K

    Diamond offered to lower/eliminate maintenance fees if I buy more points

    I have a silver membership with diamond. Diamond rep says if I pay another $65k over next ten years, I’ll have a deeded ownership and pay less (in monthly payments) than I pay now for annual fees. I will be upgraded to platinum and he says I’ll never never have to pay maintenance fees again...
  5. D

    Please help me with pricing to sell Hilton Hawaii Kohala?

    Hello, I am new here. The last kid is about to leave for college and my husband and I won't travel to resorts anymore. Could people give me an idea of a realistic selling price for Kohala - Hawaii by Hilton Grand Vacations? It is a Platinum with 7000. 2Br 2Bth 12600 points saved for next year...
  6. Nowaker

    Could any Hilton Grand Vacations timeshare owner look up availability on some dates for me?

    I'm considering acquiring a HGV timeshare worth 5000 points. Looking at the official booking rates, as well as other terms, it appears a timeshare would make sense for me. However, the points aren't worth anything if I can't utilize them the way I want, and my requirements aren't any high (Las...
  7. U

    Another "Convince me to cancel my timeshare purchase" Thread

    Like some of you, I recently stumbled upon this website when looking up information on timeshares after a presentation. I'm currently at a Hilton Grand Vacations hotel in Las Vegas and got suckered into purchasing a timeshare at a presentation yesterday. The purchase is a bit on the low end, but...
  8. B

    Point Chart - HGV Ocean Tower, Waikoloa Hawaii

    Sharing what I believe to be a complete points chart for Ocean Tower within Hilton Waikoloa Village, Waikoloa Beach, Hawaii (The Big Island). As of August 2021, this property remains under active conversion from the original hotel rooms to HGV's timeshares, so there may eventually be additions...
  9. B

    Program Comparison Table: DVC to Hilton Grand Vacations

    Hello, all. I'm a first-time thread contributor- be gentle ;-) There may not be a lot of people who own at DVC but might be thinking about buying into Hilton's timeshare program (Hilton Grand Vacations). In case you might be - or are just interested in how the programs compare - I'm sharing a...
  10. O

    Las Vegas 2BR September 05-06, 2021 (1-Night)

    Hi, looking to book a 2BR unit at either a Marriott or Hilton in Las Vegas for 1-Night only, September 05-06, 2021. Thank you!
  11. prajora

    HGV App limitations

    Just wondering what are the limitation of the HGV App vs. HGVwe site. Here are some I can point out: 1. HGV App cannot be used for RCI bookings or last min deals 2. HGV App does not also show Hilton Last mins deals There may be many more. Let’s hear from the experienced HGV owners. Thanks
  12. P

    Sent cancellation letter to Hilton, should I call?

    So I sent a cancellation letter to Hilton within four days of signing. Cancellation was within the allotted 10 days and it says they have 20 days according to the contract to refund our money. I didn’t put too much in the letter other than me and my wife’s decision to cancel within the time...
  13. R

    Looking for week in Hawaii/Honolulu around March 27th - April 4th

    Hi! I'm interested in going to Hawaii around March 27th - April 4th, preferably Honolulu Looking for at least a 1 BDR. Prefer higher end beach resorts such as Marriot/Hilton.
  14. Family Traveler

    Advice Needed on Selling HGV NY Club

    Greetings, Like so many others, I wish I found this forum years ago! Thank you for all your informative posts. We are looking to sell our timeshare and would like advice on how/where to sell it and realistically what we should expect to get for it. We own at The New York Club, 7,000 points and...
  15. Andrearr

    Really happy with my 2020 exchanges so far

    Just wanted to share my experience with my recent exchanges. 2020 was my first use year for my Vistana Timeshare that I bought resale on this site after rescinding my developer purchase. We have a 2 bed lock off that can be split into two different weeks. Hawaii 2019 for Colorado 2020 We traded...
  16. Clifbell

    A Comparison of four Southern California Timeshares

    Over a four week period, I stayed in four different timeshares from north of San Diego to south of Los Angeles. I feel really fortunate to have been able to stay at these four wonderful timeshare properties. I would go back to any one of them again, but I am curious which of the four you...
  17. B

    Newbie question Hilton timeshare

    Hi all, Had a timeshare presentation from Hilton (Parc Soleil Orlando) yesterday. The day before was researching, and found this site, which made me back off from purchasing. Agent was nice and friendly, and was upfront about the maintenance fees (we had gone to a different one a few years...
  18. timesharepro

    New Years in Las Vegas - Elara by HGVC 1 bedroom Grand Dec 30 - January 3

    Rented. 4 nights asking $450. Paypal, credit card, wire. December 30 - January 3, 2020. Elara by HGVC. 1 bedroom Grand, sleeps 4.
  19. S

    Free - Hilton Las Vegas Strip (HGVC), Floating Week

    Free - Hilton Las Vegas Strip (HGVC), Floating Week, 3400 points. Buyer to pay transfer fees. Available for use in 2021. Please contact for additional information.
  20. RNCollins

    At Hilton Waikoloa Village, cultivating a homegrown aesthetic

    At Hilton Waikoloa Village, cultivating a homegrown aesthetic https://www.travelweekly.com/Hawaii-Travel/Insights/Hilton-Waikoloa-Village-replanting-native-flora By Tovin Lapan / Hawaii Insight / Travel Weekly / travelweekly.com / October 17, 2019 “Raymond Keenan, director of landscaping at...
  21. Todd Fogelberg

    Hilton Honors Timeshare program

    After you rescind your developer sold timeshare...take a deep breath and join the Hilton Honors program. You can join for free and get a Hilton Amex card (if you have credit) and have access to over 4,000 Hilton properties including 2,500 Hampton Inns (all of which include a free hot breakfast...
  22. C

    Hilton Grand Vacations Default and Resale Purchase

    We attended a HGVC presentation earlier this year and purchased 3500 points every other year for $11,000. After doing some research online we learned that we had made a huge mistake. Fast forward a few months and we are now closing on a better deal for twice the amount of points with a better...
  23. H

    Rescind ?

    Been lurking around TUG for about a year. My story... Stayed at the Hilton in NYC and listened to their spiel in 2018 bad turned them down. We purchased a "try before you but" package for $1695 for 7200 points. We booked at the Grand Islander in HI and still have points left over. We went...
  24. taterhed

    Trouble Brewing For Hilton Hawaiian Village (Strike Action)

    https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/04/29/trouble-brewing-for-hilton-hawaiian-village-strike-action/?omhide=true Trouble Brewing For Hilton Hawaiian Village (Strike Action) Don't know if it's true, but forewarned is forearmed. Hope it get's settled without too much kerfuffle.
  25. D

    HGVC - Deal or no deal?

    I just want to preface this thread by being upfront that I probably should have researched this topic more that I did before posting this and definitely before I bought in (had no idea there was such a robust community around vacation package/timeshares) and I apologize in advance if I am...
  26. B

    Hilton points

    I am seriously thinking about buying a HGVC resale TS. Can you gift points to others or buy just points from someone else. For instance, if I am 1500 points short from where I want to go, is there a market to buy points from someone, so you don't have to upgrade and pay more MF?
  27. S

    Hilton MF in Scotland and VAT

    I received my two annual MF invoices for 2019 and I see VAT added onto them. One is for 88.56 and the other is 3.85. Since I don't live there and typically when I travel I get VAT back, does this also apply to these charges? Has anyone tried asking for them to be removed or get the VAT back?
  28. C

    Miami/ Fort Lauderdale December

    Looking for anything in the Miami/Fort Lauderdale Area. Any dates between December 16-22 (even if not all days are available- if a couple of nights are available that's fine).
  29. C

    Looking for Key West (or any Florida Keys)

    Looking for anything in the Florida Keys. Any dates between December 16-22 (even if not all days are available- if a couple of nights are available that's fine).
  30. H

    Selling my Hilton Timeshare Questions

    Greetings everyone and thank you for taking your time to even read this. I've been scouring this site but couldn't find all of the answers to the questions I had so I finally decided to post them and try my luck here. First of all, I want to just get rid of my Hilton Timeshare in its entirety...