How many years left to the 50 year term?
It happened when ILG acquired Hyatt timeshare company, about 5 years ago, so 45 years, give or take.
If I were the CEO of HYATT there is no way I would want anything with my company’s name on it within a MARRIOTT Vacation Club. It would cause confusion and may lead people to think that Hyatt is a Marriott brand.
That is a big sticking point. The license agreement gives HRC access to the World of Hyatt members to market to them the Hyatt timeshare product. Hyatt isn't going to want to have MVC folks marketing to World of Hyatt members to buy Marriott Abound points while at a Marriott timeshare property. Unless Marriott International (hotel company) somehow buys Hyatt, we won't see any integration between Hyatt and MVC.If I were the CEO of HYATT there is no way I would want anything with my company’s name on it within a MARRIOTT Vacation Club. It would cause confusion and may lead people to think that Hyatt is a Marriott brand.
The only way they get included is if Marriott buys out the contract from Hyatt and gets to put their name on the properties. Or they Hyatt TS owners could always vote to change management company brands.
See this post;Can you post the point charts somewhere if you haven’t already?
Oops…I kept reading the thread and I see that you have posted it. That is amazing that you scanned it all and shared it here on TUG! Thank you so very much!
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This is fantastic -- thanks for posting this!!! Post #621 if someone wants to see the Westin points booklet posted by Kozykritter.
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Similarly, I compared Westin Desert Willow, Westin Mission Hills and Marriott's Desert Springs Villas 1. We have stayed at all Westin and Marriott's properties and strongly prefer Desert Springs Villas I. Based on this chart, Desert Willow is more expensive to stay compared to Desert Springs Villas I, and Desert Springs Villas 1 is more expensive than Mission Hills.It is interesting reading the Westin points chart that Kozykritter posted. My limited understanding prior to this chart was that the Westin points were modestly higher than the points required to stay in a "comparable" Marriott property. I no longer think this is the case, and see some interesting differences.
I have often thought that Westin Kaanapali and Maui Ocean Club are very comparable properties (with sentimental value being the tie break -- MOC for me
Using Presidents Week as a comparator, for WKORV vs. MM1:
2BR OF: 9,975 versus 9,050
2BR OV: 7,400 versus 8,025
It's interesting to me that the 2BR OV is consistently lower at WKORV than MM1, with summer being 7,050 points versus 7,625 to stay in Lahaina Villas. The 2BR OF at WKORV is consistently higher. This must be ascribed to perceived demand as their is a limited number of 2BR OV's at Maui Ocean Club but there is much more supply at WKORV.
I don't know their Palm Desert properties but Marriott ascribes greater value to Westin Desert Willow, with Q1 pricing at 4,725 points for a 2BR from late January - April. Shadow Ridge Enclaves is 4,500 points for the same period, Shadow Ridge is 4,000 -- and Westin Mission Hills is also 4,000.
Interesting. I will be very curious to track the inventory availability with DC points (and when the reservation is available) if we ever get a new reservation system.
Best,
Greg
North and South are different pages in the charts, but after a quick glance, the points all look to be the same between the two.
Not sure what anyone was expecting. The big timeshare companies all have resorts in most of the same places. So there is a lot of overlap. However, for some locations it will provide more options. Can't book into Maui Ocean Club, you have three more resorts to try for.
Also St John’s
Agree that these are likely the main resorts of value to MVC owners. I also think the Vistana Colorado locations add some good diversity of options for skiers (the Ritz Vail is outrageously priced in points and hard to get into from what I have heard...and the Streamside properties are quite dated - Mountain Valley lodge is the most decent and available MVC option in CO).
I think the philosophy that's been adopted here in regards to this integration is the best benefits will come when you use ownership in one system to stay at properties in another. If you want to stay at Westins, use your Flex. If you want to stay at Marriott properties, convert to DP in Abound or use your Flex options in Interval to exchange. Converting to DP and then booking backwards to Vistana seems like the least desirable option, perhaps one only used in desperation if you can't find inventory you need elsewhere.
I will not be depositing my St John would rather rent it out if not using for myself.