You're Being Lied to About Electric Cars

[HitchHiker71]

Most of our driving is local, normal errands and visiting family and friends. We do take one 5 week trip every summer up through Wyoming and Montana to visit family up there, put 4000 miles in the new Sienna. There are nine of us (4 adults and 5 grandkids). We now take 2 minivans. My daughter’s Odyssey averaged 22 mpg, we averaged over 35 in the Sienna. But we will definitely get the PHEV Sienna when available. Other than the odd trip out of town, we would probably not have to use much gas until every July…

That’s a perfect use case for a PHEV from the sounds of it!


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[davidvel]

Agreed.



That study uses flawed data to present their findings. The Lendingtree study took a ton of heat when initially published. It uses data from Quotewizard from people applying or inquiring about insurance rates - not actual real world policies in force or real driver records (most of the data used is self reported). Additionally, many folks use websites like that to check rates on various vehicles that they never actually purchase or don’t actually own. This study also likely skews toward people with bad driving records that frequently check rates online due to high current auto insurance rates, so the data conflates the assumption that someone owns the vehicle(s) being requested for quotes, when oftentimes either that is not the case, or the sampling skews toward drivers with bad records, among other flaws. Look at the NHTSA crash data for accurate data.

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Also, accidents per driver is an utterly meaningless statistic for comparing whether a particular vehicle type is safer than another. This ignores the type of driving and number of miles driven. Only silly people would think such a stat has relevance.